Penalties For The O.f

[THE GRIM SHEEPER]

OK, like me I'm sure the fact that the old firm get so many penalties boils most of you up so i have done a bit of research to see how much of a farcical bias league we actually play in, here are the stats i have managed to find (all pens are for league football only)

Tonight brought the total penalty count for the old firm to 21 in the league.

 

When it is compared to other countries the stats are as follows :-

 

Barcelona, Real Madrid AND Valencia - 16

Manchester United, Arsenal AND Chelsea - 19

Dortmund, Leverkusen AND Bayern - 13

AC Milan, Napoli AND Inter - 19

Porto Benfica AND Braga - 11

PSV, Twente AND Ajax 14.

 

NUFF SAID, EXPLAIN THAT ONE SFA OLD FIRM LOVING SCUM.

[zander]

You got the stats for no old firm teams mate would be good to see.

[JFK]

wow, and people complain about Celtic fans and conspiracy theories.

[MightyDons]

wow, and people complain about Celtic fans and conspiracy theories.

 

to be fair out of that 21, we have given Celtic 7 Penalties and Rangers 1

[At The Border Guy]

The reason the bigger/better teams get more penalties is because they're in the opposition box more. If Rangers/Celtic let teams come into their box as much as we do, I'm sure they'd have conceded a few more.

[vanderark14]

The reason the bigger/better teams get more penalties is because they're in the opposition box more. If Rangers/Celtic let teams come into their box as much as we do, I'm sure they'd have conceded a few more.

 

this is the exact reason the "goal scoring opportunity" rule must go, these teams are already better than most in their domestic league so why the need to reduce the other side to 10, 9, 8 men and so on.

[RTYD]

OK, like me I'm sure the fact that the old firm get so many penalties boils most of you up so i have done a bit of research to see how much of a farcical bias league we actually play in, here are the stats i have managed to find (all pens are for league football only)

Tonight brought the total penalty count for the old firm to 21 in the league.

 

When it is compared to other countries the stats are as follows :-

 

Barcelona, Real Madrid AND Valencia - 16

Manchester United, Arsenal AND Chelsea - 19

Dortmund, Leverkusen AND Bayern - 13

AC Milan, Napoli AND Inter - 19

Porto Benfica AND Braga - 11

PSV, Twente AND Ajax 14.

 

NUFF SAID, EXPLAIN THAT ONE SFA OLD FIRM LOVING SCUM.

 

Strange that Collum has sent off four players in two games involving the Old Firm, yet failed to send off Stokes of Celtic in a Bigotfest game this season with what can only be described as an assault on a Hun. He saw the incident alright but only issed a yellow card.

 

Probably the worst referee in the league.

[Geoff_Tipps]

One thing I would like to see is how many peanlties Wille Collum has awarded to either side of the Old Firm compared to the rest.

 

Thats 5 penalties and 4 red cards he has awarded in 3 days.

[vanderark14]

He looks to me like he was bullied at school.

 

Just something 'weird' looking about him. Creepy f**ker.

:laughing:

[Red Dragon]

One thing I would like to see is how many peanlties Wille Collum has awarded to either side of the Old Firm compared to the rest.

 

Thats 5 penalties and 4 red cards he has awarded in 3 days.

 

sh*t scared, ain't they.

 

sh*t scared not to give Celtic a pen and face the wrath of Lennon and the rest of that paranoid lot.

 

sh*t scared not to give Rangers a pen and face the wrath of Der Hun for favoring Celtic.

 

Add in bricks throuh windows, intimidation etc etc. it's a no win situation. I sympathise with refs to an extent as they cannot ref games fairly without the fear of reprisal and trial by tv.

 

And it's the rest of us that suffer.

 

Becoming a farce. Might as well turn the lights off and go home.

[Red Dragon]

One thing I would like to see is how many peanlties Wille Collum has awarded to either side of the Old Firm compared to the rest.

 

Thats 5 penalties and 4 red cards he has awarded in 3 days.

 

would also like to see how the number of penalties given to the OF this season compares to previous seasons following the whoel debacle of the over turned panalty cover up.

 

I said I have some degree of sympatthy for them, they bring it on themselves with this kinda farce.

[Bamber]

would also like to see how the number of penalties given to the OF this season compares to previous seasons following the whoel debacle of the over turned panalty cover up.

 

I said I have some degree of sympatthy for them, they bring it on themselves with this kinda farce.

 

 

My link

 

 

This has the details

 

Intersting that prior to this season the top penalities to one team in a season was 9 now we are double figures for two teams and the season is yet over

 

3 teams combined this season still has LESS penalties than the OF

 

 

Going back thru the years tends to through the "they attack more threfore they get more penalties" arguement away as in 2007/8 us dundee united and hibs all got more penalties despite significantly less shots at goal

 

It coud be argued that lennons rants have made the refs give more penalties to them - but then even it up by giving rangers an extra

 

shocking to see the change, in the last four or five seasons they have been "in the pack" I would say suggesting that they get the same trewatment as everyone else and get their fair share of pens. This season they are MASSIVELY out in front and out of norm

[THE GRIM SHEEPER]

You got the stats for no old firm teams mate would be good to see.

 

http://www.football-lineups.com/tourn/SPL_2010-2011/Stats/Penalties/

[THE GRIM SHEEPER]

to be fair out of that 21, we have given Celtic 7 Penalties and Rangers 1

 

the stats i have put up are only for league competitions, not cups but im sure it would add at least 25% to that figure if you included the cups

[Monkey]

OK, like me I'm sure the fact that the old firm get so many penalties boils most of you up so i have done a bit of research to see how much of a farcical bias league we actually play in, here are the stats i have managed to find (all pens are for league football only)

Tonight brought the total penalty count for the old firm to 21 in the league.

 

When it is compared to other countries the stats are as follows :-

 

Barcelona, Real Madrid AND Valencia - 16

Manchester United, Arsenal AND Chelsea - 19

Dortmund, Leverkusen AND Bayern - 13

AC Milan, Napoli AND Inter - 19

Porto Benfica AND Braga - 11

PSV, Twente AND Ajax 14.

 

NUFF SAID, EXPLAIN THAT ONE SFA OLD FIRM LOVING SCUM.

 

Never mind Rangers and Celtic, East Fife and Ayr United have been awarded 22 penalties between them.

It's a conspiracy!!

[Scarface]

My thoughts on last night's pens/red cards:

1. Clumsy but accidental barge/trip by Kovacevic on Naismith, penalty and a yellow card.

2. Definite foul but outside the box, free-kick and red-card for Dillon as Jelavic was one on one with the 'keeper.

3. Looked like Diouf dived but not 100% sure, if there was a push then penalty but no sending off.

 

Glasgow Rangers - Always Conspiring, Never Retiring.

[OddJob]

My thoughts on last night's pens/red cards:

1. Clumsy but accidental barge/trip by Kovacevic on Naismith, penalty and a yellow card.

2. Definite foul but outside the box, free-kick and red-card for Dillon as Jelavic was one on one with the 'keeper.

3. Looked like Diouf dived but not 100% sure, if there was a push then penalty but no sending off.

 

Glasgow Rangers - Always Conspiring, Never Retiring.

Can't tell really with the 3rd one but surely not a red card? 2nd one was the most obvious of the lot, definite red card but should have been a free-kick. The 1st one at the time i thought "f**king hell" at the challenge but then you realise there's cover in defence so yes it should really have been just a yellow. How quick was Collum getting that card out his pocket though?

[10MenWent2Mow]

I suppose the whole OF/officiating debate always boils down to "If had been the other way round, what would have happened"

 

Would Mulgrew have been sent packing for the same foul on Bebo as Andy Considine walked for on Sunday or would it have been an unavoidable tangle of legs and play on????

 

As was said earlier, Stokes assaulted a Hun early doors in an OF game but wasn't sent packing. Usual defence for this is that it's an Old Firm game and had to be refereed differently. This really gets on my goat, a shocking tackle after 30 seconds of an Old Firm game is the same as a shocking tackle after 30 seconds of a Montrose vs Elgin game and they should both be punished according to the laws of the game, bollocks to this attitude of "refs have to keep their cards in their pocket in Old Firm games or else it would be 6 a side."

 

If they are gonna kick lumps out of each other then let them suffer the consequences for it.

[Red Dragon]

I suppose the whole OF/officiating debate always boils down to "If had been the other way round, what would have happened"

Would Mulgrew have been sent packing for the same foul on Bebo as Andy Considine walked for on Sunday or would it have been an unavoidable tangle of legs and play on????

 

As was said earlier, Stokes assaulted a Hun early doors in an OF game but wasn't sent packing. Usual defence for this is that it's an Old Firm game and had to be refereed differently. This really gets on my goat, a shocking tackle after 30 seconds of an Old Firm game is the same as a shocking tackle after 30 seconds of a Montrose vs Elgin game and they should both be punished according to the laws of the game, bollocks to this attitude of "refs have to keep their cards in their pocket in Old Firm games or else it would be 6 a side."

 

If they are gonna kick lumps out of each other then let them suffer the consequences for it.

 

Canna agree with the bit in bold as there is no way of determining the outcome if it was the other way round. The answer is always, and will always be, in the eyes of non-OF fans that it would not be given if the boot was on the other foot but who's to know?

 

Each individual case should it be judged in it's own right as either correct or incorrect. It always seems to boil down to the OF getting the marginal decisions, this season inparticular.

[paulkaneatemyhamster]

The thing that bugs me is that it's the number of soft or debatable penalties the OF get.

 

Plus there's always the thought that " it' wouldn't happen the other way round , would it ?"

 

Big teams always get more help from refs, always have, always will. But only in Scotland would having a non establishment team winning the title be seen as a bad thing. Competition is good, except in Scotland.