muttonhumper Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Seriously. Despite the fact that he still has many years ahead of him in his career (hopefully), I just cannot say that I've seen a more complete footballer than Lionel Messi. This is not a knee jerk reaction following his fantastic second goal tonight.Been thinking this for a while now. The boy is a genius. I've seen all of the other choices in my time through excessive TV coverage, even the distant ones on the list in multiple clips and retro footage...but the Messi min...f**king unbelievable talent. Nae real. Onyhoo.Fit dis abody else hink? Link to comment
Iversen Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Zidane still for me. Just amazing. Although giving Messi is only 23 barring major injury or self implosion I reckon he'll be up there by the time he retires. Link to comment
fifered Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 zidane, a total genius. will never be beaten in my eyes. messi could score 100 goals a season but still wouldn't be the artist zidane was. Link to comment
zerodon47 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 zidane, simply the best. then messi. and a big wise up to the morons who say you have to win a world cup to be the best ever! Link to comment
deco_1985 Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 Pele for me. 3 World Cup Winners medals out of 4 he played in. And the fact it was in the 50's I think he was so far ahead of his time. Can't really compare players from different times IMO, but for me he was something special. With regards Messi or Zidane, I'd pick Zidane. No reason, just prefer Zidane Link to comment
dezzy_dan Posted April 27, 2011 Share Posted April 27, 2011 I believe so, but I do not have the perspective of seeing many of the list regularly. However, I rate him above Zidane as the best player I have ever seen. I think we are privileged to have a player of his calibre in the game right now. If any of the ones on the list that I have overlooked had the same or even more talent, then they must have been magnificent players. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Pele by a long shot. Saw Maradonna in his heyday, see Messi routinely, unfortunately Pele was before my time... so seems a bit odd to choose someone I didn't see play regularly. Having said that, I've seen footage of Pele, also seen his games on the Classics shows that the cable networks throw on as filler from time to time. From what I've seen of Pele he was a complete player.... and his close control was beyond belief. And his dummy on the Uruguayan keeper is one of my favourite moments in football. One of those HOLY f**k moments that remind you why no other sport comes close to the beautiful game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4c Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Surprised so many have ZZ as their all time no. 1, well only because he's from recent times I guess. Would have thought pele, maradona and cruyff would be rated higher by those who have seen them all. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Van Basten a personal fave for me. Maradona won the world cup for Argentina, nearly twice in a row. I've only seen a couple of games of Pele's, but he could do it all. So from what I've seen, wee Diego. Messi is amazing but he needs to have a great world cup. On saying that FIFA have managed to weaken the whole thing by having it in mickey mouse football countries. It should be in South America and Europe only. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Maradona won the world cup for Argentina, nearly twice in a row. maradona was absoluelty awful in italia 90.he did nothing for argentina.in fact i'd say his performances were the biggest let down in football i've ever seen.up there with france at wc02. check out his penalty vs. yugoslavia in the 1/4s shoot out. hilarious!! Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 I don't know how people can vote Messi at this stage in his career so early. its cause he plays for barcelona. people forget that ronaldinhio was probably even better to watch for a admittedly short 18 month-2 year period when at barca. folk have short memories and forget how good van basten and gullit were. its all messi this and zidane that.why doesnt anyone ever mention maldini. what a career he's had. Link to comment
Scarface Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Going by the title, I thought this thread was going to be about me. Now I see it's not, I voted for Pele. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 maradona was absoluelty awful in italia 90.he did nothing for argentina.in fact i'd say his performances were the biggest let down in football i've ever seen.up there with france at wc02. check out his penalty vs. yugoslavia in the 1/4s shoot out. hilarious!! He got them to the final, which is no bad really. Yes, he was poor, but even a poor Maradona dragged a shyte football team to the last game. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Voted Zidane. His close control and the way he looks so effortless in everything he did decided it for me. Messi is an incredible player, if he keeps it up and keeps a good attitude then he will become one the all time greats. Too young to have seen Pele, outside of his TV ads!, Maradonna and Van Basten. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Pele by a long shot. Saw Maradonna in his heyday, see Messi routinely, unfortunately Pele was before my time... so seems a bit odd to choose someone I didn't see play regularly. Having said that, I've seen footage of Pele, also seen his games on the Classics shows that the cable networks throw on as filler from time to time. From what I've seen of Pele he was a complete player.... and his close control was beyond belief. And his dummy on the Uruguayan keeper is one of my favourite moments in football. One of those HOLY f**k moments that remind you why no other sport comes close to the beautiful game http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-UzRsvCsC4cStill missed though Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 He got them to the final, which is no bad really. Yes, he was poor, but even a poor Maradona dragged a shyte football team to the last game. he did bloody not. that argie team was dreadfull. maradona was as bad as anyone. in fact see his pens, he was probably worse than a man short. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 he did bloody not. that argie team was dreadfull. maradona was as bad as anyone. in fact see his pens, he was probably worse than a man short. tat fer tit the wee cokehead set up the goal that beat brazil 1-0. england probably would have beat them that year. Link to comment
OddJob Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 its cause he plays for barcelona. people forget that ronaldinhio was probably even better to watch for a admittedly short 18 month-2 year period when at barca. folk have short memories and forget how good van basten and gullit were. its all messi this and zidane that.why doesnt anyone ever mention maldini. what a career he's had.Good shout as defenders never get the credit they deserve. The guy was brilliant, either at centre-half or left-back. Read the game brilliantly and had some pace on him too, even later on in his career. Such a shame he never won anything with Italy though. That said on topic i'd have to say Pele. Sheer brilliance personified. He opened up the gates for silky, talented players to showboat their skills. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Pele for me, as Kelt observed he was the complete player, tremendous vision and talent. 3 world cup winners medals 814 goals in 769 games (including internationals) is the proof of the pudding in terms of longevity as well. Zidane blew it in the world cup final and Messi as yet has not done anything on that stage. Maradona is number two. In my opinion of course. Link to comment
OddJob Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Was also just thinking there how i wished i'd have been able to see other players like Di Stefano, Matthews, Garrincha etc etc Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Good shout as defenders never get the credit they deserve. The guy was brilliant, either at centre-half or left-back. Read the game brilliantly and had some pace on him too, even later on in his career. Such a shame he never won anything with Italy though. That said on topic i'd have to say Pele. Sheer brilliance personified. He opened up the gates for silky, talented players to showboat their skills. THIS Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 if it was based on success at career level, then it probably would be maldini. we wonder in awe at ryan giggs (and rightly so) but maldini, was around for longer, won more and also played for italy, a top national side. i guess he got usa94 and euro 2000 runners up medals????? i doubt there has been another player who has reached his level of excellence (in their respective position) for as long as maldini did. Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Maradona everytime, liked a toot , a bevvy , and hookers, yet still able to almost single handedly win a World Cup and 2 serie A titles. Messi has been sh*t in the WC so far, time will tell . Also Zidane isnt fit to lace Platini's boots Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 tat fer tit the wee cokehead set up the goal that beat brazil 1-0. england probably would have beat them that year. what a game that would have been. butcher would have murdered him! Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 Think Bluto mentioned Van Basten , truly outstanding player Link to comment
SheepieBaaBaa Posted April 28, 2011 Share Posted April 28, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsMk_pSSENM Nuff said..... Link to comment
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