NorthernLights24 Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Argentina's River Plate 90 minutes from relegation Goals either side of halftime from midfielder Cesar Mansanelli and striker Cesar Pereyra gave the second-tier Nacional B side the victory that put them on the verge of a place in the top flight. River, whose last title was in the second half of the 2007-08 season, find themselves in the dire situation as a result of their poor three-season points average that determines relegation in Argentina. The match was interrupted for 20 minutes after River went two goals behind early in the second half. Some of their fans broke a hole in the perimeter fence and stormed onto the pitch in the city of Cordoba. The fans remonstrated with their own team's players, demanding more effort from them, before being ejected and order was gradually restored. Belgrano went ahead with a penalty converted by Mansanelli midway through the first half after defender Adalberto Roman handled at a corner. They added the second five minutes into the second half when defender Luciano Lollo glanced Mansanelli's corner towards the far post where Pereyra turned it past goalkeeper Juan Pablo Carrizo into the net. Belgrano midfielder Franco Vazquez had a chance to bury River near the end when defender Jonatan Maidana slipped and lost possession but he hurried his shot over from the edge of the box. River had dropped experienced strikers Mariano Pavone and Leandro Caruso in favour of youth, and while 37-year-old Matias Almeyda gave his all in the midfield holding position his lack of pace was often exposed. River had several chances from free kicks, corners and long range shots but Belgrano goalkeeper Juan Carlos Olave was equal to them all, highlighted by a superb stop from Carlos Arano's drive. They lost their shape, and their discipline, as the match wore. Captain Almeyda, Roman and defender Paulo Ferrari were booked and will miss the second leg through suspension having accumulated five yellow cards. River need to get back on level terms in the return leg at the Monumental on Sunday and will survive with an aggregate draw as the result favours first division sides. http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/football/international/8593508/Argentinas-River-Plate-90-minutes-from-relegation.html Relegation is a complicated thing in Argentina. The system they currently use was introduced in 1983 to stop River Plate from being relegated. Relegation is based on an averaging system. At the end of each season, the two teams with the worst three-year averages are relegated, and the best two teams in the Primera B Nacional are promoted. The teams placed 17th and 18th in the average table play in a promotion/relegation playoff against the 4th and 3rd placed Primera B Nacional teams, respectively, in a two-tie decided on aggregate goals. Thus, the number of teams promoted each year varies between two and four. Newly-promoted teams only average the seasons since their last promotion. Averaging was instituted in 1983, two years after San Lorenzo de Almagro were relegated in 1981. That year, River Plate finished 18th out of 19 teams and would have been relegated under the old system. Racing and Nueva Chicago were the first teams to be relegated on average. Boca Juniors was also struggling at that time and had a dismal 1984 season. These facts have led some to speculate that the averaging system was instituted to minimize the chance of large clubs being relegated, and indeed none of the five clubs considered to be the largest has been relegated again after 1983. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Argentine_Primera_Divisi%C3%B3n#Relegation While River Plate are so close to going down I can't help but feel they will beat the drop in some way. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Talk about a system to keep the big teams up!! Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 23, 2011 Author Share Posted June 23, 2011 Talk about a system to keep the big teams up!! Even the play off games seem to favour the big teams with any kind of draw after two legs meaning the top flight team stays up. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted June 23, 2011 Share Posted June 23, 2011 Even the play off games seem to favour the big teams with any kind of draw after two legs meaning the top flight team stays up. Joke league. Just like here I suppose but it's not so open and blatant. Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 The second leg is tonight at the reasonable time of 7pm. It'll be interesting to see how the home fans act towards their team as the game goes on. Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Belgrano just scored and River Plate are back to needing two goals to stay up. Link to comment
Jaws Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 It's a lot to ask. Wouldn't like to be a copper in Buenos Aires tonight, thats for sure. Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 River Plate have just gone and had a penalty saved Link to comment
The Boofon Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 River Plate have just gone and had a penalty saved Game online Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 I take it that's them down? Just got the link working and there are lots of tears. Poofs. Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Unsurprisingly its starting to kick off in the stands. Water cannons being fired into the terraces. Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 Fighting!!! This is ace Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted June 26, 2011 Share Posted June 26, 2011 so the rules were changed so that river plate could avoid relegation yet they end up relegated any way. sounds great to me, f**k them!!! Link to comment
NorthernLights24 Posted June 26, 2011 Author Share Posted June 26, 2011 Apparently the Belgrano fans are still in the ground as its too dangerous for them to leave. Sounds like chaos in and around the stadium. Link to comment
Admin Bebo Posted June 26, 2011 Admin Share Posted June 26, 2011 Apparently the Belgrano fans are still in the ground as its too dangerous for them to leave. Sounds like chaos in and around the stadium. Outside the ground is a war zone. Mounted police. Smoke bombs. Riots. Fans destroying the club's facilities. Setting fire to garbage bins Link to comment
Ke1t Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 That 'averaging' thing does seem like it's devised for the sole purpose of keeping the bigger teams, such as River Plate, in the top division.... and I had felt sorry for River until I read that, so, f**k 'em. No sympathy. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 gotta love the passion! this went beyond passion. people were hurt and some seriously injured including police officers. this is only football. these people are extremely passionate about there club but their behaviour is that of spoiled f**king bairns. The OF are an example in our country, as soon as they start to lose its toys out of the pram. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted June 27, 2011 Share Posted June 27, 2011 yeah but kinda puts the old firm in perspective when you see how these fans act in stadiums? the old firm have never been in that position, well not that I'm aware of. Link to comment
360 Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 Looks like they are changing the system to make sure River Plate will be back soon...http:// http://www.footballfancast.com/2011/07/football-news/river-set-for-quick-top-flight-return Nice and sly from the Argie FA Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted July 27, 2011 Share Posted July 27, 2011 unbelievable. Some of these Argies will be getting invited to join FIFA next. Corrupt as f**k. Link to comment
Dandie1992 Posted July 30, 2011 Share Posted July 30, 2011 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A7EK0Izjh_Y&feature=player_embedded#at=329 The River fan who went mental when they got relegated. I dunno what's better - this, the parodies, or the thought of how many men in the NE do this when we get relegated. Link to comment
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