V for Vendetta Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Right, change of pace and approach. I'm actually going to start a thread. Not a great raging debate of who we need, how many, why the c**ts in control are not able to fund whats needed etc.. Simple: Given the players we have on the books right now, what formation and first 11 do you currently feel might be the best use of what we have? Just looking for interesting suggestions here, not a big bun fight over who kens football best etc etc. In fact lets keep to the positive, make your suggestion or be constructive in your reply on others. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Either keeper (nae fussed)Clark Mawene Considine Foster..........Arnason Osbourne..........Pawlett........Fyvie..........Milsom...................Vernon................Not great for creation still but I'd have Megginson on at some point after his performance & goal against phd. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 Either keeper (nae fussed)Clark Mawene Considine Foster..........Arnason Osbourne..........Pawlett........Fyvie..........Milsom...................Vernon................Not great for creation still but I'd have Megginson on at some point after his performance & goal against phd. I like the look of that on paper but haven't really seen teams at our level make a 4-2-3-1 work well. Was a big move towards that in the world cup but international football is so different from club football tactically. Milsom on the left would be interesting to see. Link to comment
aberdeenstu Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Gonzalez Foster Mawene Considine McArdle :confused: Clark Arnason Fyvie Pawlett Vernon Mackie Because of the name of the thread I have refrained from putting "new signing" where "Mackie" is, along with "McArdle". But initial thoughts are above. Would maybe have Ozzy in instead of Consi, I haven't attended any games this season so I don't have a good knowledge of them. In Amsterdam on study placement just now so got all of my German and Spanish( it's a Dutch learning class hence no Dutch classmates) classmates cheering on the dons this weekend! COYR! Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Gonzalez Foster Mawene Considine McArdle :confused: Clark Arnason Fyvie Pawlett Vernon Mackie Because of the name of the thread I have refrained from putting "new signing" where "Mackie" is, along with "McArdle". But initial thoughts are above. Would maybe have Ozzy in instead of Consi, I haven't attended any games this season so I don't have a good knowledge of them. In Amsterdam on study placement just now so got all of my German and Spanish( it's a Dutch learning class hence no Dutch classmates) classmates cheering on the dons this weekend! COYR!I wouldn't have McArdle at LB & I wouldn't drop Milsom (that's for sure) Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 I wouldn't have McArdle at LB & I wouldn't drop Milsom (that's for sure) Aye, stu, did you mean to put mcardle left and foster right? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Either keeper (nae fussed)Clark Mawene Considine Foster..........Arnason Osbourne..........Pawlett........Fyvie..........Milsom...................Vernon................Not great for creation still but I'd have Megginson on at some point after his performance & goal against phd. More or less what I would have said. My concern being we have two players in the middle who, at first glance seem very similar... that being Arnason and Osbourne, ball winners who don't dick around with the fancy stuff. And therein would be my problem. We have ball winners who don't dick around with the fancy stuff... what I would expect out of a team like Killie or Inverness. No real creativity, but a willingness to get stuck in. We probably won't get relegated.... but by the same token we probably won't win anything. I suppose that's an improvement, though. Link to comment
fifered Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 we seem to have plenty central players and little in the way of width and strikers so i thought 433 might work. either keeperfosterMaweneArnesonjack MilsomOsbourne Fyvie PawlettVernonClark much like barca with clark and pawlett pushing wide. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 we seem to have plenty central players and little in the way of width and strikers so i thought 433 might work. either keeperfosterMaweneArnesonjack MilsomOsbourne Fyvie PawlettVernonClark much like barca with clark and pawlett pushing wide. Nice but do we need a left footer up front to make that work, also think clark can play left mid but not so much as a real winger or wide forward. Its a tough question right now hence I haven't stuck my kneck out yet! Its all a bit Football Manager this formations nonsense anyway but interesting discussion on a quiet night. Link to comment
aberdeenstu Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Aye, stu, did you mean to put mcardle left and foster right? Initially, yes. I forgot about milsom, not used to having options in midfield! In that case I would make a selection in which it would remove McArdle! Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 GonzalezClark Mawene Arnason Foster Fyvie Osbourne Milsom Pawlett Vernon Mackie 4-3-3 Ideally the loanee we are after will go in where Mackie is. It's hard to get away with just 2 centre mids nowadays so I'd go with 3, and both Fyvie & Milsom are not suited to playing wide. Link to comment
fifered Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Nice but do we need a left footer up front to make that work, also think clark can play left mid but not so much as a real winger or wide forward. Its a tough question right now hence I haven't stuck my kneck out yet! Its all a bit Football Manager this formations nonsense anyway but interesting discussion on a quiet night.i think what you've said strikes at the problem in that our squad is completely unbalanced. lack of width particularly on the left and dearth of striking options. in saying 433, I've seen plenty managers try it at pittodrie and it never works as it ends up 451. it only ever works when your three forwards stay forward like barca. we ain't no barca though! Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 28, 2011 Author Share Posted July 28, 2011 i think what you've said strikes at the problem in that our squad is completely unbalanced. lack of width particularly on the left and dearth of striking options. in saying 433, I've seen plenty managers try it at pittodrie and it never works as it ends up 451. it only ever works when your three forwards stay forward like barca. we ain't no barca though! Interesting thing is though barca are one of the hardest working teams you'll see and the reason the 2 wide forwards don't get seen sitting deep in midfield is the whole team pushes up together when not in possession. 433 and 451 pretty much the same thing really if d just one properly. Its just over here we'd have 451 with 5 centre mids playing. Link to comment
Monkey Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 I like the look of that on paper but haven't really seen teams at our level make a 4-2-3-1 work well. Was a big move towards that in the world cup but international football is so different from club football tactically. Milsom on the left would be interesting to see.Interestingly though Hearts used that formation at Ibrox and did it very well in the 1st half. There may be some merit in considering it for games against the OF away from home. Link to comment
ebbe Posted July 28, 2011 Share Posted July 28, 2011 Gonzalez Foster Mawene Considine McArdle :confused: Clark Arnason Fyvie Pawlett Vernon Mackie Because of the name of the thread I have refrained from putting "new signing" where "Mackie" is, along with "McArdle". But initial thoughts are above. Would maybe have Ozzy in instead of Consi, I haven't attended any games this season so I don't have a good knowledge of them. In Amsterdam on study placement just now so got all of my German and Spanish( it's a Dutch learning class hence no Dutch classmates) classmates cheering on the dons this weekend! COYR! that team would comfortably get relegated. i can't believe how awful it is. Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 gk gonzalez rb foster/mcardlelb clarkcb mawene cb arnason/mcardle cm osbourne/arnansoncm fyvielm pawlettrm folly/foster/jack cf vernon cf me Link to comment
Stoney Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Our lack of wide players / balance at this time of season is a sackable offence. We didnt need osbourne or arnsson we did need lefties and a striker. To see last years mistakes being made again is concerning to say the least. Its obvious now that brown has no targets in mind and is just going to take what he is given Link to comment
Jonty Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Pretty similar to most others though I'd go with; - Gonzalez RB - Clark CH Mawene CH Arnason LB Foster LM Milsom CM Osborne CM Fyvie RM Pawlett CF Vernon CF Mackie Think Fyvie has got to get a chance to show what he can do in the Centre, think he looks like he could be our best player by a long way. And Mawene would be my Captain. Link to comment
Red Dragon Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 3-5-2 worth considering, utilising Christina and Fozzy as wing backs? Gonzo Arnesen Mawene McArdle/Considine OzzyChristina Milsom Fyvie Fozzie Maggenis Vernon Or are Mawene/Consi/McArdle incapable of playing in a back 3 due, primarily, to their lack of pace?Also, fit about Pawlett? Can he partner , or play off, Vernon? Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 unfortunately the cock we have has an inflamed prostate behind it making it hard to piss we could try a 2-2-3-2-1 I suppose Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 Our lack of wide players / balance at this time of season is a sackable offence. We didnt need osbourne or arnsson we did need lefties and a striker. To see last years mistakes being made again is concerning to say the least. Its obvious now that brown has no targets in mind and is just going to take what he is given Read the OP. We have plenty of threads already on signing policy, gaps in the squad etc and your not telling anyone anything they don't already know here. The intention of the thread was to have a less serious debate about how to set out with the players we DO have. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 unfortunately the cock we have has an inflamed prostate behind it making it hard to piss we could try a 2-2-3-2-1 I suppose LoL So have a go then, what's your best line up? given the limitations, which we don't need to discuss here. I'm struggling myself. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 right, only fair i have a go. 4-4-2 ....................Either GK....................... Clark...Mawene...Arnason....Foster Pawlett...Fyvie...Osbourne...Milsom .............Mackie......Vernon................. Problems? - Mackie is guff- Foster and Clark might have the stamina to overlap but are not great crossers IMO- Milsom out of position and no idea how he would do out there- Pawlett will probably be injured most the season Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 ....................Gonzales....................... Foster...Mawene...Considine....Clark / Robertson ===== Fyvie= ==Osbourne=== Milsom Mackie==========================Pawlett ===========Vernon=========== Given our lack of creativity, I'm going for pace down both sides and a central 3 that I think would dominate most games in the SPL Link to comment
StandFree_MainStand Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 .......................Gonzalez/Brown Osbourne - Mawene - Considine - Foster ..........................Arnason .................Fyvie.................Milsom Mackie............................................Pawlett ..............................Vernon Thats about the best I can come up with? Perhaps swap osbourne with Clark or McArdle.. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 ....................Gonzales....................... Foster...Mawene...Considine....Clark / Robertson ===== Fyvie= ==Osbourne=== Milsom Mackie==========================Pawlett ===========Vernon=========== Given our lack of creativity, I'm going for pace down both sides and a central 3 that I think would dominate most games in the SPL .......................Gonzalez/Brown Osbourne - Mawene - Considine - Foster ..........................Arnason .................Fyvie.................Milsom Mackie............................................Pawlett ..............................Vernon Thats about the best I can come up with? Perhaps swap osbourne with Clark or McArdle.. Both kind of similar to my choice but of these two formations, I'd drop Mackie completely (perhaps use him as impact sub later along with Magennis) & I try either Brown, Jack, Low or even Megginson on the right Link to comment
Mr Brightside Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 4-2-3-1 Goalie FosterArnasonMaweneClark OsbourneJack Mackie/ MegginsonFyviePawlett Veronon Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 29, 2011 Author Share Posted July 29, 2011 4-2-3-1 Goalie FosterArnasonMaweneClark OsbourneJack Mackie/ MegginsonFyviePawlett Veronon Milsom? Interesting that nearly everyone is leaving Folly out now. Link to comment
Mr Brightside Posted July 29, 2011 Share Posted July 29, 2011 Milsom? Interesting that nearly everyone is leaving Folly out now. Sorry forgot about arguably our 'best player' would play him ahead of Jack. I liked Folly before he got injured and he would probably be in my team if he was fully fit, but left him out for now. Midfield 3 of Folly Osbourne and Milsom would be very solid, means we could utilise Fyvie wide perhaps and also allow us to rotate the squad more. Link to comment
Site Sponsor Dom Sullivan Posted July 29, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted July 29, 2011 Sorry forgot about arguably our 'best player' would play him ahead of Jack. I liked Folly before he got injured and he would probably be in my team if he was fully fit, but left him out for now. Midfield 3 of Folly Osbourne and Milsom would be very solid, means we could utilise Fyvie wide perhaps and also allow us to rotate the squad more.never a wide player - hasn't got the pace to beat his man. Fyvie needs to play in the middle. Link to comment
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