Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keep hearing this line rolled out just now, how we were certs for relegation last year. Got me thinking - whats the differance, is it just the fact that Mcghee has so many haters or are we actually better off. Just for referance at this stage last season - after we had played our first 6 games (same 1 in the cup, 5 in the league) We were sitting 4th in the league and had scored 10 goals conceding only 5. So my question is - whats the differance between this season and last? I should also ask, if brown has the same run of injuries that Mcghee had (with Mackie, Pawlett and Fyvie all already out for a long spell before our 7th game) will it be the same witch hunt or will we be making excuses regarding injuries to players? Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keep hearing this line rolled out just now, how we were certs for relegation last year. Got me thinking - whats the differance, is it just the fact that Mcghee has so many haters or are we actually better off. Just for referance at this stage last season - after we had played our first 6 games (same 1 in the cup, 5 in the league) We were sitting 4th in the league and had scored 10 goals conceding only 5. So my question is - whats the differance between this season and last? I should also ask, if brown has the same run of injuries that Mcghee had (with Mackie, Pawlett and Fyvie all already out for a long spell before our 7th game) will it be the same witch hunt or will we be making excuses regarding injuries to players? just to jog my memory at what point did Mcghee get sacked last season? Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 just to jog my memory at what point did Mcghee get sacked last season? never mind, it was the 1st of December. Lets give Brown till at least then Stoney. Have some patience. Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 just to jog my memory at what point did Mcghee get sacked last season? Not long after quite a bad spell of injuries which seen us drop down the league Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 Having briefly look at redweb We had lost Fyvie and Mackie for the season, Pawlett was out quite a lot and Aluko, Hartley and Diamond were also having major problems. Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted August 24, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keep hearing this line rolled out just now, how we were certs for relegation last year. Got me thinking - whats the differance, is it just the fact that Mcghee has so many haters or are we actually better off. Just for referance at this stage last season - after we had played our first 6 games (same 1 in the cup, 5 in the league) We were sitting 4th in the league and had scored 10 goals conceding only 5. So my question is - whats the differance between this season and last? I should also ask, if brown has the same run of injuries that Mcghee had (with Mackie, Pawlett and Fyvie all already out for a long spell before our 7th game) will it be the same witch hunt or will we be making excuses regarding injuries to players? There are the glass half full and the glass half empty on the site. Same anywhere. For the first 40 odd years of my support of the Dons I was glass half full; now half empty. I see the negatives before I see the positives, which I'm sad about, but hey ho. Negatives so far in Broon's reign Still thinks Darren Mackie is a player Signed Chris Clark Gave Langfield a new contract Inherent defensiveness about his style of play, epitomised by everyone back behind the ball. Positives Before we take the lead in a game we play some attractive, entertaining stuff Arnesen looks a player Osbourne I am happy with He dealt with the Foster situation well That's some of the pluses and minuses. EVERYONE on this site wants the club to do well. Those who are thinking positively are known by their detractors as, amongst other things, Happy clappers Those who are thinking negatively are thought by their detractors as, amongst other things, living in the past. Somewhere in the middle is probably where we should be. I myself will be positive on players who are not long in the door and need a good spell to settle in before judgement is passed. On the other hand I've seen enough years of Mackie, Clark and Langfield to know they are pish and not good enough for my club. There Stoney loon is my reply. We have four points out of fifteen. If we carry on at that ratio we are certs to go down. Personally I think we will finish eighth. For me nowhere near good enough. For others acceptable on the route to recovery. Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 There are the glass half full and the glass half empty on the site. Same anywhere. For the first 40 odd years of my support of the Dons I was glass half full; now half empty. I see the negatives before I see the positives, which I'm sad about, but hey ho. Negatives so far in Broon's reign Still thinks Darren Mackie is a player Signed Chris Clark Gave Langfield a new contract Inherent defensiveness about his style of play, epitomised by everyone back behind the ball. Positives Before we take the lead in a game we play some attractive, entertaining stuff Arnesen looks a player Osbourne I am happy with He dealt with the Foster situation well That's some of the pluses and minuses. EVERYONE on this site wants the club to do well. Those who are thinking positively are known by their detractors as, amongst other things, Happy clappers Those who are thinking negatively are thought by their detractors as, amongst other things, living in the past. Somewhere in the middle is probably where we should be. I myself will be positive on players who are not long in the door and need a good spell to settle in before judgement is passed. On the other hand I've seen enough years of Mackie, Clark and Langfield to know they are pish and not good enough for my club. There Stoney loon is my reply. We have four points out of fifteen. If we carry on at that ratio we are certs to go down. Personally I think we will finish eighth. For me nowhere near good enough. For others acceptable on the route to recovery. Great post, Unfortunately looking at the posters currently typing replies its away to go down hill fast. Link to comment
K-9 Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keep hearing this line rolled out just now, how we were certs for relegation last year. Got me thinking - whats the differance, is it just the fact that Mcghee has so many haters or are we actually better off. Just for referance at this stage last season - after we had played our first 6 games (same 1 in the cup, 5 in the league) We were sitting 4th in the league and had scored 10 goals conceding only 5. So my question is - whats the differance between this season and last? I should also ask, if brown has the same run of injuries that Mcghee had (with Mackie, Pawlett and Fyvie all already out for a long spell before our 7th game) will it be the same witch hunt or will we be making excuses regarding injuries to players?Struggling clearly but early days. Must improve and improve fast. Few good signs but quite a few bad signs aswell with same mistakes beng made again. Some are confident it will improve (some say they are even happy with our start we have made) and some are very worried. Personally very worried and see a struggle in bottom half yet again but hoping am wrong. Link to comment
Tommy Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 There are the glass half full and the glass half empty on the site. Same anywhere. For the first 40 odd years of my support of the Dons I was glass half full; now half empty. I see the negatives before I see the positives, which I'm sad about, but hey ho. Negatives so far in Broon's reign Still thinks Darren Mackie is a player Signed Chris Clark Gave Langfield a new contract Inherent defensiveness about his style of play, epitomised by everyone back behind the ball. Positives Before we take the lead in a game we play some attractive, entertaining stuff Arnesen looks a player Osbourne I am happy with He dealt with the Foster situation well That's some of the pluses and minuses. EVERYONE on this site wants the club to do well. Those who are thinking positively are known by their detractors as, amongst other things, Happy clappers Those who are thinking negatively are thought by their detractors as, amongst other things, living in the past. Somewhere in the middle is probably where we should be. I myself will be positive on players who are not long in the door and need a good spell to settle in before judgement is passed. On the other hand I've seen enough years of Mackie, Clark and Langfield to know they are pish and not good enough for my club. There Stoney loon is my reply. We have four points out of fifteen. If we carry on at that ratio we are certs to go down. Personally I think we will finish eighth. For me nowhere near good enough. For others acceptable on the route to recovery. Good post min. Link to comment
Henry Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Great post, Unfortunately looking at the posters currently typing replies its away to go down hill fast. Pretty harsh on K-9 and Tommy. Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Keep hearing this line rolled out just now, how we were certs for relegation last year. Got me thinking - whats the differance, is it just the fact that Mcghee has so many haters or are we actually better off. Just for referance at this stage last season - after we had played our first 6 games (same 1 in the cup, 5 in the league) We were sitting 4th in the league and had scored 10 goals conceding only 5. So my question is - whats the differance between this season and last? I should also ask, if brown has the same run of injuries that Mcghee had (with Mackie, Pawlett and Fyvie all already out for a long spell before our 7th game) will it be the same witch hunt or will we be making excuses regarding injuries to players? did you agree with the sacking of MM? Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 did you agree with the sacking of MM? Obsolutley. I also think he wasn hung out to dry by the board. Should never have been appointed but receieved no help from the board. Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Obsolutley. I also think he wasn hung out to dry by the board. Should never have been appointed but receieved no help from the board. but his sacking was the correct decision? did you support the appointment at the time? would you prefer MM, JC or Brown and Knox? Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 but his sacking was the correct decision? did you support the appointment at the time? would you prefer MM, JC or Brown and Knox? Of course it was. I think he was harshly treated by the board with regard to an unrealistic budget. I gave him a chance when he was appointed, didnt think he was the man for the job but he had my support, as too does brown. Until changes are made a the very top in this club it doesnt matter which manager is used for fodder. Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 Of course it was. I think he was harshly treated by the board with regard to an unrealistic budget. I gave him a chance when he was appointed, didnt think he was the man for the job but he had my support, as too does brown. Until changes are made a the very top in this club it doesnt matter which manager is used for fodder. well I suggest you get aff the managers back then, stop being a greetin face tit, be a bit more positive, and appreciate hes doing his level best with what budget and support he has fae Milne. Link to comment
Stoney Posted August 24, 2011 Author Share Posted August 24, 2011 well I suggest you get aff the managers back then, stop being a greetin face tit, be a bit more positive, and appreciate hes doing his level best with what budget and support he has fae Milne. Shame we didnt even get to page two without the usual insults. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted August 24, 2011 Share Posted August 24, 2011 RTYD - good post and probably where a lot of people are. I am really pleased we have won the last two games and hope it represents a genuine improvemnt in our fortune. For me there are reasons to be concerned as we still appear to have an unbalanced squad (with little time to sort) which is disappointing. We also seem to have a number of players who appear unfit which is disappointing.There is as a result of lack of seasoned players a reliance on youth stepping up eg Jack - this was one area that failed MM last year and I have no grounds to believe it'll work any better this year. We seem to lack width and our wide players (such as they are) lack fitness, competence or resistance to injury. Now if everyone improves in comeptence as we get physically fitter we could progress from where we are and be a solid if uninspiring side, if the lack of fitness is because gaining that fitness hazards old injuries breaking down then we could still be in a MM like situation come December. What is certainly true is that we are in the wrong end of the league for anyone to be happy with our current league position and I'm not sure that I see that improving any time soon. I live in hope. It is good to have won two games running but this is hardly great form, a home win against fellow strugglers and a lower division side, I want more. Link to comment
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