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Seems like the mopes have protested against Sion playing illegal players in the first leg game at Darkheed....begs the question though why did UEFA nae step in and deal with this before the second leg?

I hope UEFA throw the protest out and fine the greetin' b**tards for wasting their time

 

f**k me I thought that protests against illegal players was confined to the Sunday Welfare League!!

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/celtic-europa-league-sion

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Oklahoma 1903 Newbie

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In the eyes of FIFA Sion are guilty, they just weren't meeting in time or some nonsense like that. Sion's manager actually said before the first leg that they may very well be found guilty but it was his job to field his strongest team and that's what they would do.

 

They defied the rules and cheated.

There would be outrage on here if it happened to to us.

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V for Vendetta Newbie

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They defied the rules and cheated.

There would be outrage on here if it happened to to us.

 

Yep.They bought a load of players while a transfer embargo was in place. The Swiss FA then seem to have turned a blind eye.

 

Unlike the case made against Rangers, I think this one has a good chance of UEFA stepping in.

 

Pity really but as Oklahoma says if this happened to us we'd be very unhappy.

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fine-n-dandy Grand Master

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Yep.They bought a load of players while a transfer embargo was in place. The Swiss FA then seem to have turned a blind eye.

 

Unlike the case made against Rangers, I think this one has a good chance of UEFA stepping in.

 

Pity really but as Oklahoma says if this happened to us we'd be very unhappy.

 

 

Suppose we'd just have to deal with it

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E-P-K Newbie

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while id normally jump at the chance to poke fun at either of the OF, in this instance, ill back their case. Sion knowingly fielded ineligible players. Why should they be allowed to do that and get into the europa league as a consequence? It sets a precedent that you can undermine the rules so long as you openly admit it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnqQhUdXgvI

 

Sion's Romanov-esque type owner said before the first leg that his manager will be fielding their strongest team, eligible or not, if that is the case, then rightly f**kin so they should booted oot.

 

If simple admin errors result in harsh penalties for those clubs, then knowing full well multiple players are ineligible should rightly result in ta ta Europa league.

 

 

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Bamber Collaborator

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Three things about this story

 

1. its an interpretaion of the rules, SIon are arguing they met the interpretaion if not the spirit of the punishment - Rather interestingly Lennon served two touch line bans concurrently which met the interpretation rather than the spirit of the law. Be funny to see them lose out to an interpretation seeing as they used it as defence!

 

Sion felt they had served two transfer windows punishment - FIFA disagree. Could be poetic justice if they lose out!

 

2. If Sion gets booted out what happens to the red card received by lurch?

 

3. who is to say Celtic get re-instated. they could just kick out Sion and make it one less team in the group - now THAT would be funny as f&ck

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RUL Grand Master

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Yeah, its not as black and white as some are making out, Sion are saying they followed the punishment given and Fifa are saying they haven't followed the spirit of it.....i.e we fked up and you know we did but signed players as we told you not to.

 

UEFA will try and throw Sion out but Sion are threatening to go to civil courts etc.

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E-P-K Newbie

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BERNE (Reuters) - Switzerland has been warned that it must enforce FIFA statutes after first division Sion were allowed to field their new signings at the weekend despite being subject to a transfer ban.

 

Sion signed six new players during the close season but had been unable to use them initially as the Swiss Football League enforced the ban imposed by FIFA in 2009.

 

The Swiss League backed down at the weekend after the players took their case to a civil court in Martigny which said they were entitled to play.

 

Three of the players -- Mario Mutsch, Guinea midfielder Pascal Feindouno and former Barcelona player Gabri - were fielded in the 2-2 draw with FC Lucerne at the weekend.

 

FIFA statutes ban any football-related disputes from being taken to the courts and federations which fail to enforce this can ultimately be suspended.

 

"FIFA and UEFA, in a letter sent on 10 August, underlined the strict application of the...regulations and informed the Swiss Football Association that they are expected to comply with them and to take the necessary measures to respect them," said Switzerland-based FIFA in a statement.

 

"FIFA does not put any pressure on the Swiss Football Association but, jointly with UEFA, only refers to existing regulations."

 

Before its ruling last week, the Swiss League admitted it had been put "in a very difficult situation" by the conflicting orders.

 

Sion are due to face Scottish side Celtic in a Europa League qualifying tie on Thursday.

 

The club was banned from signing players for two transfer periods, starting with the 2010/11 season, after FIFA ruled it had been guilty of inducing Egypt goalkeeper Essam El-Hadary to break his contract with Cairo-based club Al Ahli in 2008.

 

Sion say they have already served the ban but FIFA say it runs until the end of this year.

 

It is not clear whether Sion, who unsuccessfully appealed to the Court of Arbitration for Sport (CAS), were confused over the ban or whether fiery president Christian Constantin was acting in defiance of FIFA when the signings were made.

 

Constantin had previously threatened to boycott away matches if the ban was not lifted by the league.

 

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Jack_Glass Newbie

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while id normally jump at the chance to poke fun at either of the OF, in this instance, ill back their case. Sion knowingly fielded ineligible players. Why should they be allowed to do that and get into the europa league as a consequence? It sets a precedent that you can undermine the rules so long as you openly admit it.

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rnqQhUdXgvI

 

That SP episode is a top one, got every single SP show on my PC, best show ever.

 

Anyway, SION should either be kicked out or made to replay both legs with eligible players only. I'd prefer to see Celtic on their ass as I hate them more than Rangers now, but not as much as Hearts and their PR fairytale.

 

I'd expect & be happy if AFC were to make the same clutching at straws complaint if we got knocked out.

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sheepiekev Newbie

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Seems like the mopes have protested against Sion playing illegal players in the first leg game at Darkheed....begs the question though why did UEFA nae step in and deal with this before the second leg?

I hope UEFA throw the protest out and fine the greetin' b**tards for wasting their time

 

f**k me I thought that protests against illegal players was confined to the Sunday Welfare League!!

 

http://www.guardian.co.uk/football/2011/aug/26/celtic-europa-league-sion

 

 

yeh, cos we wouldnt have complained?!

They have every right to, and will definitely be allowed back in

you cant sign 5 players under an embargo and expect to progress in the competition.

They cheated

They deserve to be punished.

What's your point?

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redarmy88 Newbie

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yeh, cos we wouldnt have complained?!

They have every right to, and will definitely be allowed back in

you cant sign 5 players under an embargo and expect to progress in the competition.

They cheated

They deserve to be punished.

What's your point?

 

Correct. Am I right in thinking UEFA even advised them in advance that these players would be ineligible? If so then they are just stupid.

 

Still, if Celtic don't get back in.... :lolceltic::lolceltic::lolceltic::lolceltic:

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sheepiekev Newbie

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Correct. Am I right in thinking UEFA even advised them in advance that these players would be ineligible? If so then they are just stupid.

 

Still, if Celtic don't get back in.... :lolceltic::lolceltic::lolceltic::lolceltic:

 

 

yeh, I hear you - Celtic are scum etc....BUT the co-efficient could do with a hand.

It's a hard one

My hatred of all things Celtic make it hard for me to use the co-efficient reasoning...

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fatshaft Newbie

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Feel the decision is very unfair on Sion.

 

Also means we will be having the "scottish football is sh*te" discussion once again after Celtic get turfed out with nil points.

Eh? they f**king cheated. Much as it's f**king horrible that Celtic are back in, it is absolutely right that Sion are out.
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