Its All Our Fault............

[Stoney]

"The club needs an average home gate of 11,500 to break even but supporters are turning away in their droves."

 

If you thought that you were going to get that before the season started you seriously need you fucking heads looks at.

 

Oh, and instead of blaming the fans not turning up for the finances being all to fuck how about looking at your fucking bank statements and the money you are stealing from the club every month.

[Wanderingdon]

"The club needs an average home gate of 11,500 to break even but supporters are turning away in their droves."

 

If you thought that you were going to get that before the season started you seriously need you fucking heads looks at.

 

Oh, and instead of blaming the fans not turning up for the finances being all to fuck how about looking at your fucking bank statements and the money you are stealing from the club every month.

 

 

Here Here

[Henry]

Where's the quote from?

[Crossbow]

"The club needs an average home gate of 11,500 to break even but supporters are turning away in their droves."

 

If you thought that you were going to get that before the season started you seriously need you fucking heads looks at.

 

Oh, and instead of blaming the fans not turning up for the finances being all to fuck how about looking at your fucking bank statements and the money you are stealing from the club every month.

 

Spot on - an improved product on the park will get folk back - stop spending our money on incompetent administrators, board members, managers and players.

[Stoney]

Where's the quote from?

 

This mornings P&J

 

Duncan Fraser.

[Wanderingdon]

Spot on - an improved product on the park will get folk back - stop spending our money on incompetent administrators, board members, managers and players.

 

 

How much is Miller taking home a week/month ??? times that by the amount of years he has been in the job and then divide it by the number of "Good" things he has done as DOF ??????

 

Worthy return ?

[Dynamo]

Now I quite believe that's the average they've budgeted for. Not a hope in hell of achieveing that this season now. Be lucky to touch a 9000 average IMO.

 

So that's that.

 

I want to know what the club are doing to try and rectify this.

 

Simple marketing. Kilmarnock ticket

[RUL]

 

This mornings P&J

 

Duncan Fraser.

A club like afc cant afford a salary fot fraser!

[Kilkito]

Yes, signing a player that has never scored a senior goal will fair grip the publics imagination and have the quesues forming outside Pittodrie.

 

The club have never seemed to grasp that you need to speculate to accumulate, the fans need something to get excited about, I suppose it goes back to what MT was saying in the summer about a marquee signing, someone who would have got people along to Pittodrie and lifted the whole place. Failing that, some sort of change, some form of good news, some new iniatives, promises of investments, shake-ups, overhauls, something to give us hope for the future.

 

Instead, after Tuesday, we get Brown saying he's going nowhere and Milne saying he backs him, and he's sorry. Sorry's all well and good, but other than the promises that they are determined to improve things, what are they actually going to do, what tangible acts are going to take place that will sort the mess out. Brown promised us he wouldn't be taking any holidays as he was working so hard on adding to the squad, in the summer, it just shows that working hard doesn't necessarily get results, as whilst the team has some decent players, every fan of the club is aware of its deficiencies.

 

The spiral downwards is so alarming that those at the top surely need to grasp that something major requires to be done to sort it out, permanent damage to the fan base has already been done, some fans could be retrieved, but not through empty platitudes from Brown and Milne.

[Stoney]

How much is Miller taking home a week/month ??? times that by the amount of years he has been in the job and then divide it by the number of "Good" things he has done as DOF ??????

 

Worthy return ?

 

There is a chart on the SPL finances site for our director pay, its really quite obscene.

 

http://www.football-finances.org.uk/aberdeen/Directors.htm

[Stoney]

What year did miller join the club?

 

2004 by chance?

[barassie_afc]

utterly obscene isnt 158k per year for doing fxck all , 158k per year would get 2 players, or one decent one in todays market, just illustrates how fxcked we are

[Stoney]

In May 2004, Miller was appointed to the Aberdeen board and given executive responsibility for football. He played a large role in the appointment of Jimmy Calderwood as manager

 

Wonder if miller is the pale green line on that chart.

[barassie_afc]

In May 2004, Miller was appointed to the Aberdeen board and given executive responsibility for football. He played a large role in the appointment of Jimmy Calderwood as manager

 

Wonder if miller is the pale green line on that chart.

 

thats is what is probably on his fabled "whiteboard"

[Dynamo]

Is there really room for Willie and Angela?

[Ke1t]

Here's the bottom line...

 

...The fans aren't employed to make the club a viable business, nor are the fans tasked with putting an entertaining, winning team on the park.

 

You, Mr Fraser, Mr Milne, Mr Miller and Mr Brown are the guys whose job it is to make Aberdeen a club worth watching.

 

If you aren't competent enough to do that... and you aren't... then you need to resign your positions and allow someone who is competent enough to do that to assume your roles at the club.

 

Blaming the lack of fans is the ultimate irony.... had you one solitary brain cell between the lot of you you might stop to consider for one brief moment why there are no fans coming to the games... and then that might logically lead you to the conclusion that IT'S YOUR OWN FUCKING FAULT THAT NO-ONE COMES TO ABERDEEN GAMES ANY MORE!

 

I shouted that last bit in the hopes that it might get through your shit-thick skulls and register somewhere in the comprehension centre of what passes for your collective brain.

 

[StandFree1982]

Clearly everyone involved with AFC believe that the product we are "selling" is good enough to attract > 11k. When in actual fact, the product we are selling is probably not even good enough to attract > 7k. We have went from being the Sainsburys brand to the Aldi brand, but we are now selling Aldi goods at Sainsburys prices.

[tup]

All we need is an OWNER and a MANAGER, and his STAFF, and a PLAYING SQUAD.

 

Everyone else, and I mean everyone, can GTF, wage thieves, from those in the ticket office to those in the boardroom, all doing next to fuck all for big returns.

[V for Vendetta]

I think I'll open a shop selling dogshit.

That is bound to be a sound business venture.

 

We could do dogshit on toast snacks.

Dogshit car fresheners.

Dogshit facewash.

Special shoes which come with dogshit already on the bottom.

 

I expect dogshit inner ear lubricant will be a BIG seller.

 

Now where ARE those pesky customers?

I mean if they just won't come and buy my dogshit my business will fail.

 

And it will be all the customers fault for not coming and buying what I want to sell.

[Chrisyboy81]

Clearly everyone involved with AFC believe that the product we are "selling" is good enough to attract > 11k. When in actual fact, the product we are selling is probably not even good enough to attract > 7k. We have went from being the Sainsburys brand to the Aldi brand, but we are now selling Aldi goods at Sainsburys prices.

Aldi. we are more like pound land these days. The only problem is, like you said, we are selling things for Sainsburys prices and continually telling the customers they are getting the same quality and when we complain we are unreasonable. It's unlike any other business, apart from maybe the pub trade, where the customer is always wrong. If you make a fuss in the boozer you get man handled off the premises and banned. Make a fuss at the football and you may encounter a similar reaction.

[Betty Swallicks]

I'll be back fan I get my

[Ke1t]

I think I'll open a shop selling dogshit.

That is bound to be a sound business venture.

 

We could do dogshit on toast snacks.

Dogshit car fresheners.

Dogshit facewash.

Special shoes which come with dogshit already on the bottom.

 

I expect dogshit inner ear lubricant will be a BIG seller.

 

Now where ARE those pesky customers?

I mean if they just won't come and buy my dogshit my business will fail.

 

And it will be all the customers fault for not coming and buying what I want to sell.

 

Remember to charge 20+ quid per lump of dogshite, and to greet each and every paying customer with a hearty "Fuck you, wanknugget!"

 

Also, remember to blame your customers for your gammy leg, your empty bank account and the weather outside.

 

Periodically you should also write a strongly worded letter to the letters page of the EE, railing against the "fucksticks" who are to blame for your failing business... and DO use the word "fucksticks", just to impress upon any potential customer exactly what you think of them.

 

"Buy my dogshit, fucksticks, and get the fuck out of my shop!"

[vanderark14]

"The club needs an average home gate of 11,500 to break even but supporters are turning away in their droves."

 

If you thought that you were going to get that before the season started you seriously need you fucking heads looks at.

 

Oh, and instead of blaming the fans not turning up for the finances being all to fuck how about looking at your fucking bank statements and the money you are stealing from the club every month.

 

all I see in that one quote that you have used is a fact. I don't see anyone blaming the fans.

 

in saying that I agree with others about the wages paid to certain people. WM should be the first to go

[Stoney]

Implication is there from the short piece online that our budget is at "breaking point" and the reason given for that is the fact that they have budgeted for

 

"average home gate of 11,500 to break even"

 

and then goes onto say

 

"but supporters are turning away in their droves"

 

So that is the reason given for the club budget being stretched to breaking point.

[Henry]

Would agree with Stoney here, it's pretty thinly veiled IMO.

[vanderark14]

Implication is there from the short piece online that our budget is at "breaking point" and the reason given for that is the fact that they have budgeted for

 

"average home gate of 11,500 to break even"

 

and then goes onto say

 

"but supporters are turning away in their droves"

 

So that is the reason given for the club budget being stretched to breaking point.

 

selective quoting to support your argument. I'll read the full article later.

 

from what you have quoted I see nothing but fact. lesser crowds mean less income.

[The Boofon]

Remember to charge 20+ quid per lump of dogshite, and to greet each and every paying customer with a hearty "Fuck you, wanknugget!"

 

Also, remember to blame your customers for your gammy leg, your empty bank account and the weather outside.

 

Periodically you should also write a strongly worded letter to the letters page of the EE, railing against the "fucksticks" who are to blame for your failing business... and DO use the word "fucksticks", just to impress upon any potential customer exactly what you think of them.

 

"Buy my dogshit, fucksticks, and get the fuck out of my shop!"

 

David Thorne should work for AFC. :thumbs:

 

How to deal with poor customer service

[Dandyesque]

selective quoting to support your argument. I'll read the full article later.

 

from what you have quoted I see nothing but fact. lesser crowds mean less income.

 

Correct.

 

But Stoney appears to be generally quite a pissed-off individual most of the time, so unsurprising that he would take an incredibly negative interpretation of what was said.

 

I actually think it's a thinly veiled defence of the board.

 

More along the lines of "we've spent money in our budget on the basis that we get 11,500 as an average crowd. We get nothing like that, so you can tell that we are currently overspending."

 

It's more of a "f*ck off" to those who think the board should dig deep in this current "crisis".

[Ke1t]

Implication is there from the short piece online that our budget is at "breaking point" and the reason given for that is the fact that they have budgeted for

 

"average home gate of 11,500 to break even"

 

and then goes onto say

 

"but supporters are turning away in their droves"

 

So that is the reason given for the club budget being stretched to breaking point.

 

Agree with that interpretation.

 

The club says they need 11,500 fans

 

...but the FANS are turning away.

 

There's the implication that the root cause of the problem is fans not coming. No mention of poor product on the park, outrageous prices, a club that routinely pisses on its own fans, routine humiliation in the cup and league, relegation-zone football, or any of the other shit that causes people to spend their time and money elsewhere.. simply, "The fans aren't coming"

[Dynamo]

I wonder how many staff not including the players, coaches and the youths AFC employs. They should give the youth team jobs in the ticket office and on the turnstyles etc instead of hiring other folk.

Never good to see folk out of a job but there shouldn't be room for sentiment when you're