Harsh Financial Reality For Dunfy

[barassie_afc]

I like this , its transparent.......but not good news

 

 

No 1. Bulletin from the East End Park Boardroom

 

In this new initiative DAFC Board members would like to let all fans know of our short, and longer, term aspirations and operations.

 

We plan to update our fans on both our dreams and challenges, on a quarterly basis, and our bulletin should be viewed with the long term plans in mind but also the reality of the current year's objective of remaining in the SPL at the end of the season.

 

Our vision for the long term is to have a financially strong club regularly in the top half of the SPL with a well-developed Youth Programme delivering a stream of players each year to the first team pool. The facilities at East End Park will be continually developed to establish the most attractive facilities of any provincial Scottish Club with the commercial activities providing meaningful contributions to the club each year. Currently 50% of the Club's income already has to come from our commercial operations (advertising, sponsorships, retail and our conferencing and banqueting operation) Every party held here and Matchday hospitality place taken really does help our 1st team efforts!

 

The training centre at Pitreavie will also be progressively developed as an open, community use Centre of Fitness for multiple sports for all ages and genders. We are strenuously seeking public and private funding to build a new, full size synthetic turf pitch at Pitreavie, and would love Pitreavie to become the centre for a strong DAFC Community Programme bringing toddlers, youngsters and their families into the Pars Community. We already reach 700+ local children every week through our delivery of fun, all skills community programmes.

 

We are rapidly finding however that even in the SPL the current economic climate is proving to be a challenging environment. The stark reality is that the Club's income is well below budget as a result of: A) lower attendances than anticipated...less than 3000 DAFC fans at the Rangers game for example.. B) early exit from the Scottish Communities League Cup C) Season Tickets sales 500 below forecast and D) Higher costs.

 

For example the switch of our first home game to a Monday evening reduced our attendance and effectively cost some

[At The Border Guy]

It's good that! Can't seem to figure out why more clubs aren't that transparent - It'll shut up some of the whingers who seem to think money grows on trees and hopefully rally some of the fans together to help out.

[barassie_afc]

It's good that! Can't seem to figure out why more clubs aren't that transparent - It'll shut up some of the whingers who seem to think money grows on trees and hopefully rally some of the fans together to help out.

 

Think we should do it ?

[Chrisyboy81]

That sort of thing would certainly go a long way to building better relations between the club and the fans. Why can't AFC just be honest, I'm sure fans would be more inclined to rally instead of drifting away.

[At The Border Guy]

Think we should do it ?

 

Maybe after the stadium move... Think there's a tipping point when it comes to debt size and I'm pretty sure we're over it just now. I prefer blissful ( ) ignorance at the moment.

[RTYD]

Our vision for the long term is to have a financially strong club regularly in the top half of the SPL with a well-developed Youth Programme delivering a stream of players each year to the first team pool. The facilities at East End Park will be continually developed to establish the most attractive facilities of any provincial Scottish Club with the commercial activities providing meaningful contributions to the club each year. Currently 50% of the Club's income already has to come from our commercial operations (advertising, sponsorships, retail and our conferencing and banqueting operation) Every party held here and Matchday hospitality place taken really does help our 1st team efforts!

 

 

For example the switch of our first home game to a Monday evening reduced our attendance and effectively cost some

[Tommy]

 

 

The TV deal is seriously flawed in that you don't get any extra cash if you have a home game on TV so inevitably your gates will suffer. The Bigots don't have that as other than their Bigot fest games the only time they are on TV is when they are away from home. I don't like Yorkston but I hope he leads the rebellion against the current deal and the carve up in favour of the Bigots.

 

Totally agree.

 

So WTF were the clubs thinking of when they agreed the way the tv money was split ?

[Betty Swallicks]

Shows there is no parity in the spl.

 

Quote "less than 3000 DAFC fans at the Rangers game" and a fucking sponsored walk to raise funds.

 

[tup]

It may dawn eventually on those RUNNING the SPL clubs, you know those guys who are involved in their club's affairs EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY that perhaps RANGERS and CELTIC are the MASSIVE PROBLEM in SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

 

However I won't be HOLDING MY BREATH for the day that happens.

 

Too many of them like the HUN TOOL IN CHARGE AT DUNDEE UTD think that the old firm are keeping our game HALF DECENT and not in fact GRINDING THE OTHER SCOTTISH CLUBS TO SHIT with their utterly selfish modus operandi.

 

Remove the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

[Tommy]

It may dawn eventually on those RUNNING the SPL clubs, you know those guys who are involved in their club's affairs EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY that perhaps RANGERS and CELTIC are the MASSIVE PROBLEM in SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

 

However I won't be HOLDING MY BREATH for the day that happens.

 

Too many of them like the HUN TOOL IN CHARGE AT DUNDEE UTD think that the old firm are keeping our game HALF DECENT and not in fact GRINDING THE OTHER SCOTTISH CLUBS TO SHIT with their utterly selfish modus operandi.

 

Remove the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

 

[GK55]

Good article this and fair play to DAFC for coming out with this.

 

If AFC did this, we would get the usual crap from whoever within the club, mostly lies i would suggest. This article seems an honest assessment of DAFC's season to date.

[vanderark14]

It may dawn eventually on those RUNNING the SPL clubs, you know those guys who are involved in their club's affairs EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY that perhaps RANGERS and CELTIC are the MASSIVE PROBLEM in SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

 

However I won't be HOLDING MY BREATH for the day that happens.

 

Too many of them like the HUN TOOL IN CHARGE AT DUNDEE UTD think that the old firm are keeping our game HALF DECENT and not in fact GRINDING THE OTHER SCOTTISH CLUBS TO SHIT with their utterly selfish modus operandi.

 

Remove the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

 

it also doesn;t he;p when practically every section of the media continue to peddle the line that every other side needs that old firm home game to keep them going.

[diamondsr4ever]

move the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

 

So TUP, why do our chairmen pander to them?

[RTYD]

Totally agree.

 

So WTF were the clubs thinking of when they agreed the way the tv money was split ?

 

 

I don't think they were thinking anything other than "Let's get this Old Firm cock out of my arse so I can go home"

[RTYD]

It may dawn eventually on those RUNNING the SPL clubs, you know those guys who are involved in their club's affairs EVERY SINGLE FUCKING DAY that perhaps RANGERS and CELTIC are the MASSIVE PROBLEM in SCOTTISH FOOTBALL.

 

However I won't be HOLDING MY BREATH for the day that happens.

 

Too many of them like the HUN TOOL IN CHARGE AT DUNDEE UTD think that the old firm are keeping our game HALF DECENT and not in fact GRINDING THE OTHER SCOTTISH CLUBS TO SHIT with their utterly selfish modus operandi.

 

Remove the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

 

 

You and I both agree on this. It is the biggest problem facing our game.

[vanderark14]

move the cancer from our game and we'd have a good league, until then, forget it.

 

So TUP, why do our chairmen pander to them?

 

because they are afraid of losing what little money they currently get in the short term

[diamondsr4ever]

because they are afraid of losing what little money they currently get in the short term

 

 

if we reduced the revenue any further could teams survive short term?

[vanderark14]

if we reduced the revenue any further could teams survive short term?

 

thats the million dollar question.

[diamondsr4ever]

thats the million dollar question.

 

exactly, and probably the main reason that clubs run scared, the loss of setanta cost clubs around a million or so a season?

 

i just dont think many clubs would survive short term,

 

not that im in favour of supporting the OF, however it couldnt make the league any worse

[Marty13479]

Just showed this to a neighbour of mine who is a Pars fan. He told me this was a follow up to a meeting between a fans group and the Pars board. They requested that the fans get more information regarding what is happening within their club.

 

Sometimes in life all you need to do is ask. I am sure Milne would love to tell us all how much money he is putting in to cover the costs for dropping attendances. It is all our fault don't you know

[Jazzer_Bett]

Its a bit amateur/desperate.

 

Aberdeen Football Club is a bigger business i'd rather they keep some things in house. Of course its all in the accounts at the end of the day.

 

Just my opinion.....

[tup]

The only reason for anyone being non-transparent about financial matters within any club is because they are being paid far too much for doing far too little.

 

Which is basically modern football in a nutshell, even Highland League players are cutting about in Mercedes cars with personalised number plates FFS.

 

I reckon it should ALL be out in the open for every SPL club, as this information would expose Rangers and Celtic as the selfish charlatans that they are and bring the naive fools who work for BBC Sportsound towards the coffee in the hope that they start smelling it and wake the fuck up to the real issue.

[diamondsr4ever]

The only reason for anyone being non-transparent about financial matters within any club is because they are being paid far too much for doing far too little.

 

Which is basically modern football in a nutshell, even Highland League players are cutting about in Mercedes cars with personalised number plates FFS.

 

I reckon it should ALL be out in the open for every SPL club, as this information would expose Rangers and Celtic as the selfish charlatans that they are and bring the naive fools who work for BBC Sportsound towards the coffee in the hope that they start smelling it and wake the fuck up to the real issue.

 

 

TUP, do you think short term loss of finances from the OF would kill off a few clubs?

[tup]

TUP, do you think short term loss of finances from the OF would kill off a few clubs?

 

No, it cannot possibly do so, they are dying anyway.

 

It would revitalise our league if we simply said, tomorrow, no more Rangers and Celtic, the other ten clubs have voted them out, the SPL has been disbanded, the SFA is not fit for purpose and is self-preservatory, and that a new body was being formed for the good of ALL clubs in the Scottish league and which would take decisions on an entirely democratic basis, reduce admission prices substantially, and enforce the under 21 rule rigourously that Rangers and Celtic did their utmost to undermine in principle.

 

People would flock back to the stadiums.

[diamondsr4ever]

No, it cannot possibly do so, they are dying anyway.

 

It would revitalise our league if we simply said, tomorrow, no more Rangers and Celtic, the other ten clubs have voted them out, the SPL has been disbanded, the SFA is not fit for purpose and is self-preservatory, and that a new body was being formed for the good of ALL clubs in the Scottish league and which would take decisions on an entirely democratic basis, reduce admission prices substantially, and enforce the under 21 rule rigourously that Rangers and Celtic did their utmost to undermine in principle.

 

People would flock back to the stadiums.

 

this couldnt and wouldnt happen overnight

[tup]

this couldnt and wouldnt happen overnight

 

And thus you starkly illustrate the type of thinking endemic in our national game, which is one of weary resignation to our eternal fate.

 

It could happen, easily.

[diamondsr4ever]

And thus you starkly illustrate the type of thinking endemic in our national game, which is one of weary resignation to our eternal fate.

 

It could happen, easily.

 

overnight?

[tup]

Well it's nae exactly overnight when you consider it's been 25 years of torture at their hands, we simply say enough is enough, why should we bother continuing to give you our league and game to be swallowed up whole in your macabre bubble of triumphalism, we simply say this has gone on so long as to have become intolerable and our clubs are the laughing stock of European competition whilst our league is the sick man of Europe parodied by others as the model to avoid at all costs.

[diamondsr4ever]

Well it's nae exactly overnight when you consider it's been 25 years of torture at their hands, we simply say enough is enough, why should we bother continuing to give you our league and game to be swallowed up whole in your macabre bubble of triumphalism, we simply say this has gone on so long as to have become intolerable and our clubs are the laughing stock of European competition whilst our league is the sick man of Europe parodied by others as the model to avoid at all costs.

 

well thats my question, under the current league laws etc etc, how long would it take, how viable would it be? and what if Rangers and Celtic dont want to go?

 

what you seem to forget is that all the chairmen of the other clubs WANT the OF and vote in their favour...it will never change unless they change..if they believe it would be for the greater good of the game and their clubs, why havent they bothered to try and change?

[tup]

and what if Rangers and Celtic dont want to go?

 

They don't get a choice.

 

In terms of legality, there's an argument for saying they have in essence undermined the value of our league by repeatedly speaking of an exit strategy, therefore they are in breach of the founding principles of the league, and can be ejected without recourse.

 

Let them decide what they want to do, and let them take a taste of the medicine they have been dishing out to the rest of us for nearly three decades.

 

The SFA would have to go too, as they have proven beyond doubt that bias and corruption is endemic in their powerbase.