fine-n-dandy Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Who are all the ten players & who do we think of them should get offered new deals? Mackie is def a must NOT get new deal extension (not even an hour) Vernon deal i think expires in Summer alsoArnasonOsbourneBrownClangers Anyone know the complete list? Link to comment
K-9 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Who are all the ten players & who do we think of them should get offered new deals? Mackie is def a must NOT get new deal extension (not even an hour) Vernon deal i think expires in Summer alsoArnasonOsbourneBrownClangers Anyone know the complete list?12 is it not? Link to comment
MincePie Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Looking at the squad, I think it might be:LangfieldMcArdleMaweneArnason OsbourneFollyMackieChalaliVernonMagennis Could be wrong though Link to comment
K-9 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 ClangersMcArdleMagennisMackieOsbourneArnasonBrownMaweneFollyVernonChalali?? Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 ClangersMcArdleMagennisMackieOsbourneArnasonBrownMaweneFollyVernonChalali?? is Foster not one of them? If so I also heard it would be his testimonial year.................... Link to comment
K-9 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 is Foster not one of them? If so I also heard it would be his testimonial year....................Nah - another year to go My link Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 is Foster not one of them? If so I also heard it would be his testimonial year.................... No I think he still had three years (or two & half at least) when he was at huns. Pretty sure he's around til the following Summer Link to comment
lethal707 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers - McArdle - Magennis - Mackie - Osbourne - Arnason - Brown - Mawene - Folly - (this lad had loads of potential if fit)Vernon - (only if he starts scoring if not I'd rather have Fallon)Chalali - (my hero)?? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers..................... Maybe as No.2 (good back up)McArdle......................As RB no thanks but ok as back up CHMagennis...................He can stay as back up also (stronger, faster & better than Mackie)Mackie.................... gone in Jan if there is any justice Osbourne...................Must signArnason......................Must signBrown........................Not seen enough of him reallyMawene......................gnnghhh! Folly........................1 year dealVernon.................... yes with the team on form, he's an asset Chalali..................... yes, give him a chance??...................... yes for sure, this guy is fkn fantastic. (he's the new Gary McDonald) Brown said: "I have already made up my mind which ones I want to keep. I don't want to highlight some and disappoint others. "We haven't spoken to any player yet but will follow up our interest in the players we wish to retain." Got to be Arnason & Osbourne for sure Link to comment
Red Morning Light Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers Short dealMcArdle Magennis Mackie Osbourne Arnason Brown Mawene Folly Vernon Chalali Link to comment
Marty13479 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Might be wrong but I though J Brown signed for 2 years?? According to EE this is the list. Jamie LangfieldScott VernonDarren MackieRory McArdleJosh MagennisYoann FollyAndy ConsidineMichael PatonYoul MaweneIsaac OsbourneKari ArnasonMohamed Chalali Link to comment
K-9 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Might be wrong but I though J Brown signed for 2 years?? According to EE this is the list. Jamie LangfieldScott VernonDarren MackieRory McArdleJosh MagennisYoann FollyAndy ConsidineMichael PatonYoul MaweneIsaac OsbourneKari ArnasonMohamed ChalaliPaton definitely not up this season - summer 2013 Link to comment
Foster14 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Paton definitely not up this season - summer 2013 Off your list, Brown got a 2 year deal. Not sure who the 12 are, unless fringe youth players are included. Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 On the subject of our out of contract players - Duncy Frasers recent Red TV interview he was at pains to point out that NO CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN OFFERED YET - I REPEAT NO CONTRACTS HAVE BEEN OFFERED YET. It perhaps highlights that AFC have an orchastrated process for the dishing out of new deals, as clearly he wants agents and the press to know exactly where we are as regards this. I reckon all offers will be made at the same time, with the same time limit - before they are taken off the table. Hand the contracts out too early and the agents will be using that to hawk them about other clubs, as we get fucked about. Fraser has a bit of cuntishness abuot him (similar to Rod Petrie) and thats a good thing when it comes to dealing with vermin like agents. When you read about Stephen Hughes getting just a 6 week contract it looks like there is a bit of power coming back to the clubs here, so the comments from Fraser indicate that we will be taking a hard and fast line, which is good. We now have the shining examples of; Diamond MaguireAluko To illustrate to certain players that being billy big baws in the current fitba climate can do you more harm than good. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 When you read about Stephen Hughes getting just a 6 week contract it looks like there is a bit of power coming back to the clubs here, so the comments from Fraser indicate that we will be taking a hard and fast line, which is good. The deal that conveniently gives him some game time up to the point where the transfer window opens again? Obviously he could move anywhere at any time out of contract, but getting 6 weeks of training and football under his belt prior to the window definitely sounds like something he wants, rather than the club wants... Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 ? He was free he could have signed for anyone (if they wanted him that is) at any point, so the windae has nout to do with it. And it still stands to reason he couldn't get a club up until now Foster14. Another money grabbing tit with ideas above his station. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Jamie Langfield - GET RID Scott Vernon - KEEP Darren Mackie - GET RID Rory McArdle - GET RID Josh Magennis - GET RID Yoann Folly - JURY OUT. Andy Considine - KEEP Michael Paton - GET RID Youl Mawene - JURY OUT Isaac Osbourne - KEEP Kari Arnason - KEEP Mohamed Chalali - JURY OUT McArdle and Maggennis are not first teamers. And if we are to improve we need to be looking to ship these guys out and bring in players of a better quality - which is the hard part. But no point keeping them for the sake of it. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 ? He was free he could have signed for anyone (if they wanted him that is) at any point, so the windae has nout to do with it. And it still stands to reason he couldn't get a club up until now Foster14. Another money grabbing tit with ideas above his station. I still think the 6 week contract conveniently takes him to the January window. I don't think that would be a Motherwell choice, as you suggested. Link to comment
Jonty Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 I heard last week (from a football agent) that our current highest paid player is Clangers on Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers NOPEMcArdle NOPEMagennis NOPEMackie NOPEOsbourne AYEArnason AYEBrown MEBBEMawene MEBBEFolly NOPEVernon AYEChalali MEBBE easy - get to work broon Link to comment
Marty13479 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Paton definitely not up this season - summer 2013 Paton and Mawene are contracted until 2013? Brown and ??? Make 12 Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Millertime what don't you understand about "lets agree to stay out of each others way and not reply to each others posts?" You follow up practiaclly everything I write on here with nonsense, which derails threads and Mod get annoyed. So we agree to stay out of each others way, and 1 day later you are spouting crap again. You just don't get it do you? Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers NOPEMcArdle NOPEMagennis NOPEMackie NOPEOsbourne AYEArnason AYEBrown MEBBEMawene MEBBEFolly NOPEVernon AYEChalali MEBBE easy - get to work broon Agree 99%, think Mawene will stay though min Link to comment
lethal707 Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Maguire got a big contract at a big championship team and Aluko could end up with Rangers... how are they examples of what bad can happen if you leave us? Maguire is hardly shining in the Championship and will no doubt get touted out to other smaller clubs soon enough. You only need to look at the progress Goodwillie is making at Balckburn to see the difference here. Call ups to Scotland squad ect. Aluko won't sign for Rangers and if he does it is extremely desperate. Plus he's spent a few months now without a wage so JB's point probably stands here. As for Diamond - Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 Might be wrong but I though J Brown signed for 2 years?? According to EE this is the list. Jamie LangfieldScott VernonDarren MackieRory McArdleJosh MagennisYoann FollyAndy ConsidineMichael PatonYoul MaweneIsaac OsbourneKari ArnasonMohamed Chalali I thought Considine signed a 4 year deal just a couple of years ago? If he is into his final year then he is a must extend deal player as well.Really got high hopes for Andy & he will only improve Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted November 17, 2011 Site Sponsor Share Posted November 17, 2011 Clangers NoMcArdle NoMagennis MaybeMackie NoOsbourne YesArnason YesBrown MaybeMawene MaybeFolly MaybeVernon YesChalali Maybe?? Link to comment
Jazzer_Bett Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Maguire is hardly shining in the Championship and will no doubt get touted out to other smaller clubs soon enough. You only need to look at the progress Goodwillie is making at Balckburn to see the difference here. Call ups to Scotland squad ect. Aluko won't sign for Rangers and if he does it is extremely desperate. Plus he's spent a few months now without a wage so JB's point probably stands here. As for Diamond - lethal he's just trying to derail more threads, but fair play for helping him understand simplistic points. I thought Considine signed a 4 year deal just a couple of years ago? If he is into his final year then he is a must extend deal player as well.Really got high hopes for Andy & he will only improve Andy has been brillaint so far - interesting to note that he cites his improvement with the confidece havign two screenrs in Ozzie and Arnie in front of him - just goes to underline what a pair of brilliant signings they have been by Mr Brown. When was the last time we had two strong mifielders like them protecting the defence? Grant/Bett? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted November 17, 2011 Author Share Posted November 17, 2011 lethal he's just trying to derail more threads, but fair play for helping him understand simplistic points. Andy has been brillaint so far - interesting to note that he cites his improvement with the confidece havign two screenrs in Ozzie and Arnie in front of him - just goes to underline what a pair of brilliant signings they have been by Mr Brown.When was the last time we had two strong mifielders like them protecting the defence? Grant/Bett? Kerr & McDonald Nah, sure Heikenin & Bisconti are worthy of a mention also since Grant/Bett.Barry Nicholson worth a wee shout (although attacking more) also & maybe even Seve on occasion Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 It's a list from the EE, so it probably won't be accurate.But here's tuppence worth. Jamie Langfield. NO. Homework should be getting done now to identify a suitable replacement.Scott Vernon. YES.Darren Mackie. NO, NO & thrice NO. He's time has long since been up.Rory McArdle. NO. But could be kept as a CB back-up only.Josh Magennis. NO. He's a trier bless him, but he's na use and a waste of a wage.Yoann Folly. NO.Andy Considine. YES. Harshest critic of Considine Jnr, But he seems to be answering my critisism of late.Michael Paton. NO. He's wasted any chance of a decent career.Youl Mawene. YES. Some dodgey moments, but generally assured and seems to work well with Considine.Isaac Osbourne. OH AYE!Kari Arnason. OH AYE!Mohamed Chalali. DUNNO. Purely because he's barely had a chance with us just yet. The 2nd half the season will decide his fate.Jason Brown. DUNNO. Haven't seen anything of him at all. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted November 17, 2011 Share Posted November 17, 2011 Kerr & McDonald Nah, sure Heikenin & Bisconti are worthy of a mention also since Grant/Bett.Barry Nicholson worth a wee shout (although attacking more) also & maybe even Seve on occasionHeikennin and Bisconti didnt play in the same team though. If they did, certainly not regular. Pele got rid of Bisconti almost as soon as he came in and he signed Heikkenin summer of his first full season. Link to comment
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