actonsheep Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 What a numpty. You're far more generous than I... Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Fits the cunt done now? Tried to act the big cunt in Europe with the outcome that the UK is completely marginalised in Europe and they are going to fuck us over no end now. He tried to Veto a vote (designed to control banks) that was approved by all other 26 Eurozone countries. Foreign leaders where pishing themselves at him. Clown! Link to comment
Big Man Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Tried to act the big cunt in Europe with the outcome that the UK is completely marginalised in Europe and they are going to fuck us over no end now. He tried to Veto a vote (designed to control banks) that was approved by all other 26 Eurozone countries. Foreign leaders where pishing themselves at him. Clown! What did you want him to do BC ruin the future prosperity of the U.K.'s financial sector to save face? The Eurozone is fucked in more ways than one - bring on independence i say... Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 What did you want him to do BC ruin the future prosperity of the U.K.'s financial sector to save face? The Eurozone is fucked in more ways than one - bring on independence i say... You think he got what he wanted? He fucked up badly. Asked for too much and got called out. That's not clever, it's the sign of a fool. Major fuck up and he will know it. Link to comment
beer gut Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 The major fuck up was the single currency. It will fail eventually. It's only a matter of time. I'm glad he vetoed the proposal. It would've meant Britain handing over even more power to Europe for nothing in return. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 The major fuck up was the single currency. It will fail eventually. It's only a matter of time. I'm glad he vetoed the proposal. It would've meant Britain handing over even more power to Europe for nothing in return. He just did hand over more power to Europe for nothing in return. Played his cards shockingly badly. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 The former Swedish Prime Minister, Carl Bildt (@carlbildt), who also served as an EU envoy has tweeted: "Worried that Britain is starting to drift away from Europe in a serious way. To where? In a strong alliance with Hungary....." Link to comment
minijc Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think he done the right thing, stood up for us and himself for a change rather than get shafted. Link to comment
Big Man Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 You think he got what he wanted? He fucked up badly. Asked for too much and got called out. That's not clever, it's the sign of a fool. Major fuck up and he will know it. Oh im not disputing the boy fucked up - he's made himself and us look like an utter tit... However, i have to concede were stuck between a rock and a hard place with this eurozone shit. I do not envy his job one little bit. Its like playing a game of what would you rather have - cancer or AIDS? There is no right and wrong course, because either way we look like dicks. We weren't coming away from that summit with anything, we have no bargaining power there. We're the retarded cousin at the wedding that has to be invited because there family and you can't not invite them. Cameron had two choices: i) Do what he did and appease his backbenchers ii) Prostitute ourselves to the French and the NAZIS Its shite state of affairs to be in... Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think he done the right thing, stood up for us and himself for a change rather then got shafted. Correct. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Oh im not disputing the boy fucked up - he's made himself and us look like an utter tit... However, i have to concede were stuck between a rock and a hard place with this eurozone shit. I do not envy his job one little bit. Its like playing a game of what would you rather have - cancer or AIDS? There is no right and wrong course, because either way we look like dicks. We weren't coming away from that summit with anything, we have no bargaining power there. We're the retarded cousin at the wedding that has to be invited because there family and you can't not invite them. Cameron had two choices: i) Do what he did and appease his backbenchers ii) Prostitute ourselves to the French and the NAZIS Its shite state of affairs to be in... That's the main thrust of my point, that he played it really badly and got a shite outcome for the UK. Link to comment
beer gut Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 He just did hand over more power to Europe for nothing in return. Played his cards shockingly badly. What powers did he hand over? All this Britain must be part of Europe or it will die shit pisses me off. It doesn't harm Norway or Denmark. The so called experts who spout this bile are the same people who launced the doomed Euro. They should all shut the fuck up. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Tried to act the big cunt in Europe with the outcome that the UK is completely marginalised in Europe and they are going to fuck us over no end now. He tried to Veto a vote (designed to control banks) that was approved by all other 26 Eurozone countries. Foreign leaders where pishing themselves at him. Clown! I think he done the right thing, stood up for us and himself for a change rather than get shafted. Correct. Make your mind up BC. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 What powers did he hand over? All this Britain must be part of Europe or it will die shit pisses me off. It doesn't harm Norway or Denmark. The so called experts who spout this bile are the same people who launced the doomed Euro. They should all shut the fuck up. Norway is fucking minted off oil. Absolutely minted. I don't know what Denmark does for a living, bacon? See post above yours for the gist of the situation. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 Make your mind up BC. Check the subtle edit Boofon, subtle but crucial. Link to comment
tainboy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 To be honest he's following the old Tory trend. We shall distance ourselves from Europe and snuggle up to the yanks which shall once again set the state back 5 years from recovery. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Check the subtle edit Boofon, subtle but crucial. I see no edit but I'll trust you as you're a mod and so can edit things without visibility. I personally think he's done the right thing as well and as far as I can see if it means the others can do stuff to us through the EU then we tell the EU to go fuck themselves. Link to comment
tainboy Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Norway is fucking minted off oil. Absolutely minted. I don't know what Denmark does for a living, bacon? See post above yours for the gist of the situation. I think something like 80% of NOrWAYS energy demand come from hydro. They make so much from oil and gas it's un real. Simply because they didn't sell out and set their economy up for the future and not short term gain like the Tories did. Denmark makes money from oil and gas, wind technology, design, engineering, shipping and Lego. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 To be honest he's following the old Tory trend. We shall distance ourselves from Europe and snuggle up to the yanks which shall once again set the state back 5 years from recovery. This could have us out of Europe altogether though. What's the point in being in Europe if you can't wield a bit of power because of your wealth (without taking the absolute rip obviously Mr Cameron)? Not like we'll get any hand out poor points. The outcome of being completely out is up for debate but definitely a de-stabilising prospect and potentially shooting ourselves in the face. Have we not done pretty well out of being able to deal in a single market? Am not professing to be an expert or anything but seems we have just ran home claiming that it's 'Oor baw!' and refusing to play. Link to comment
E-P-K Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think something like 80% of NOrWAYS energy demand come from hydro. They make so much from oil and gas it's un real. Simply because they didn't sell out and set their economy up for the future and not short term gain like the Tories did. Denmark makes money from oil and gas, wind technology, design, engineering, shipping and Lego. Aye, the oil fund that they have, is the second largest in the world, $550 Billion. You can add tax to the list on Denmark's money making income, and of course Carlsberg. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 I think something like 80% of NOrWAYS energy demand come from hydro. They make so much from oil and gas it's un real. Simply because they didn't sell out and set their economy up for the future and not short term gain like the Tories did. Denmark makes money from oil and gas, wind technology, design, engineering, shipping and Lego. Scotland should have declared independence the very instant oil was discovered in the North Sea. We would have fucking bought England by now and be rulers of all that we survey, swanning around in palaces disguised as yachts. The 2012 Olympics would be being held in Aberdeen. I forgot all about lego. Big money spinner, used to have loads of it. Link to comment
RUL Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 To be fair, what could Cameron do? The tax they wanted to enforce would have been paid by uk banks in the main and gone straight to Europe! He was fucked before he went! Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 9, 2011 Author Share Posted December 9, 2011 To be fair, what could Cameron do? The tax they wanted to enforce would have been paid by uk banks in the main and gone straight to Europe! He was fucked before he went! Difficult situation for him but he is supposed to be a fucking diplomat and is in charge of the country. The general rule is to use diplomacy and at the very least come back with something and claim victory. Not go over acting the big clever cunt, make a tit of yourself, be humiliated (hear the music they played for him when he signed the paper?) and come back looking you'd just taken a kicking. What he wanted would have given UK banks an unfair advantage (always useful in business) and was never going to happen. BTW. Is it correct that fishing rights are controlled by the EU? Could just have lost us all of our say in that sphere, fuck knows what else... We will be needing a bigger navy. Link to comment
Terrorfex Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Difficult situation for him but he is supposed to be a fucking diplomat and is in charge of the country. The general rule is to use diplomacy and at the very least come back with something and claim victory. Not go over acting the big clever cunt, make a tit of yourself, be humiliated (hear the music they played for him when he signed the paper?) and come back looking you'd just taken a kicking. What he wanted would have given UK banks an unfair advantage (always useful in business) and was never going to happen. BTW. Is it correct that fishing rights are controlled by the EU? Could just have lost us all of our say in that sphere, fuck knows what else... We will be needing a bigger navy. At least this time, the Cold War's over so we can pick up where we finished last and ram Iceland's coastguard without fear of having the closure of the NATO base (we closed a decade ago) hanging over us. Link to comment
Scarface Posted December 9, 2011 Share Posted December 9, 2011 Scotland should have declared independence the very instant oil was discovered in the North Sea. We would have fucking bought England by now and be rulers of all that we survey, swanning around in palaces disguised as yachts. The 2012 Olympics would be being held in Aberdeen. It would've been cracking if Hurricane Bawbag tore Scotland off England and we floated to the Caribbean, somehow taking all the oil with us. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Britain needs to forge stronger links with Europe, where along with Germany and France it will be a major force. If Britain wants to be just a solitary island then you need to appreciate that you're going to be a minor player in international politics and finance, where the major players will be America, China and a Europe led by the French and Germans. Europe can't afford to be a collection of shitty little countries in the 21st century. The French and Germans seem to understand this... Cameron not so much. So the UK will be a peripheral figure looking in on the major players, declining in importance as time goes by. I look at Cameron and I don't see much there except an anachronistic ideologue... and while that might garner votes it doesn't strike me as any sensible way to run a country. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 This sort of discussion would benefit from the input of LS. He would ken the vibe on financial markets and such like. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted December 10, 2011 Author Share Posted December 10, 2011 Britain needs to forge stronger links with Europe, where along with Germany and France it will be a major force. If Britain wants to be just a solitary island then you need to appreciate that you're going to be a minor player in international politics and finance, where the major players will be America, China and a Europe led by the French and Germans. Europe can't afford to be a collection of shitty little countries in the 21st century. The French and Germans seem to understand this... Cameron not so much. So the UK will be a peripheral figure looking in on the major players, declining in importance as time goes by. I look at Cameron and I don't see much there except an anachronistic ideologue... and while that might garner votes it doesn't strike me as any sensible way to run a country. Aye, this is my interpretation too. The UK just banked all of it's non-existent cash on the Euro fucking up. Seems to me that the Euro Countries have just put a fairly tight plan in place and could be pissing in our faces very soon. Fucking huge gamble for Cameroon (that's ass-u-ming it's a gamble and not just some self important prick sorting out his school chums.) Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted December 10, 2011 Share Posted December 10, 2011 Which is why I wish their was more choice in English politics than the Tories and Labour who are both ineffectual useless cunts... Naturally the Liberals who might have had a chance had they not gorged on the Tory teat don't count if they ever did... Link to comment
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