The Afc Chat Independence Referendum

[Big Man]

 

Here are some questions to get the debate flowing:

 

i) What would you like an independent Scotland to be like?

 

ii) What kind of legislation would you like to see enacted that we can't enact just now?

 

iii) What would you like our relationship with the international community to be like?

 

iv) What would our immigration laws be like?

[tup]

Couldna give a fuck either way.

[Big Man]

Aye.

 

I imagine Wick will remain largely unaffected either way...

 

 

 

[ScottishJohn]

No need to negotiate with those cunts.

[Dynamo]

Nae fussed, so I'd fall under the "Unsure" option on your poll.

[tup]

We will all remain unaffected regardless, political choice is an illusion designed to sedate.

[vanderark14]

100% for Independence

[Big Man]

Nae fussed, so I'd fall under the "Unsure" option on your poll.

 

Its a referendum, there's no unsure option.

 

If you're unsure you vote no.

[Dynamo]

I'll abstain then.

 

I'll have to have a good look through the pros and cons for and against independence before I voted anyway.

 

I'm not for it or against it at the moment.

[Big Man]

I'll abstain then.

 

You'll get a sore arse if you keep sitting on that fence Dynamo.

 

And then Bluto will offer to rub it better...

[Foster14]

No and no as it stands. I can't vote for independence without knowing the way it will work, but will be open to being convinced. As for additional powers, generally not though may think differently on specific powers.

[Donmacca]

I'm against it as Salmond wants to cosy up with Brussels and in my opinion the EU and the single currency is a complete shambles.

[Dandyesque]

I'm against it as Salmond wants to cosy up with Brussels and in my opinion the EU and the single currency is a complete shambles.

 

The UK is a shambles as well.

[Dandyesque]

Its a referendum, there's no unsure option.

 

If you're unsure you vote no.

 

Big Man is clearly a fan of the Thatcher school of democracy;

 

"If you don't vote either way, you are counted as agreeing with me"

[Donmacca]

The UK is a shambles as well.

 

Not as much as Europe though. It's the lesser of 2 evils

[Big Man]

What im potentially most excited about post independence, and i think i may even write to Alex Salmond about this, is:

 

i) An elected upper chamber of the Scottish parliament - we should call it the Scottish Senate*

ii) A Scottish Supreme Court

iii) A Sovereign Wealth fund

iv) A high speed rail line connecting Glasgow, Edinburgh and Aberdeen

v) The privatisation of Edinburgh and Glasgow University's, with tuition fees for all Scottish born students being met by the Scottish government (EU and other students can go and fist themselves)

vi) The resurgence of a distinctly anti-english jurisprudence again

vii) Scottish citizenship tests for illegal aliens wishing to enter our country

viii) Ridiculous american style proceeds of crime legislation

 

[* Senate in a Roman way, not a Ke1t goes to Washington way]

[Bobby Connor]

A football forum populated by mainly 20 somethings with the odd old codger. Practically guaranteed a yes vote!

 

Alex Salmond would kill for a demographic like we have on here!

[Foster14]

26 here and never been in favour of it...

[Bobby Connor]

26 here and never been in favour of it...

 

Aye, but you're the exception.

[Foster14]

Aye, but you're the exception.

 

Not from personal experience, but in the grand scheme of things, I'd agree with what you are saying...

[russellh]

Until its clarified what the situation will be as regards adopting a currency its a no.

 

To many other unanswered questions from salmond and still to much of tartan and heather brigade fantasy to be taken serious, i say that as the SNP have still to give us a credible plan of the process they want so much.

 

Saying that been happy so far with the alot of what they have done at hollrood.

[rgudon]

100% for Independence

 

reasons?

[Jonty]

Aye, but you're the exception.

 

I'm only 30 and voted No / No.

[Bobby Connor]

I'm only 30 and voted No / No.

 

It's not a strict rule. More of a guide.

 

Young lads in their 20s are generally far more up for change than auld wifies.

[rgudon]

Angus Robertson said in Parliament today there are more Pandas in Edinburgh Zoo than Tory MP's in Scotland, that was about the substance of his debate. Main reason I wouldnt vote YES, wouldnt trust these idiots to transition us into Independence.

[Bobby Connor]

Angus Robertson said in Parliament today there are more Pandas in Edinburgh Zoo than Tory MP's in Scotland, that was about the substance of his debate. Main reason I wouldnt vote YES, wouldnt trust these idiots to transition us into Independence.

 

All depends how highly you do or don't regard your fellow countrymen. I trust that the Scots are better suited to look after our own business than being beneath our neighbours.

 

When it boils down to it, that's the only question you need to ask yourself:

 

Are the Scots inferior to the English? Yes or No?

[The Boofon]

Its a referendum, there's no unsure option.

 

If you're unsure you vote no.

No you don't.

 

What's stopping an unsure voting yes?

 

Ridiculous statement.

[Guest milne_afc]

We'd probably be a right shambles, but a shambles of our own making.

 

 

I'm all for it.

[Foster14]

All depends how highly you do or don't regard your fellow countrymen. I trust that the Scots are better suited to look after our own business than being beneath our neighbours.

 

When it boils down to it, that's the only question you need to ask yourself:

 

Are the Scots inferior to the English? Yes or No?

 

 

That is a ridiculously simple.

[zander]

No to negotiation with Westminster, SNP set out its plan and will stick to it like they said.

 

YES to more powers 100% power to the Scottish Parliament.