Ke1t Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Given we invest cash into the youth setup, such as it is, with minimal return on that investment when these youngsters fuck off to England at the first sign of talent, would it make more sense for us to become an official feeder club for a real club? Presumably we could forge actual links with an EPL club (the kind of links that in fact exist, as opposed to the kind of fictional links the club usually announces) which would allow us to bring in actual promising youngsters from, say, Newcastle or whoever, and give them games in the first team. Newcastle, or whoever, gets first dibs on any players we develop (they're going to fuck off anyway). We get in talented youngsters for free, we get a fee for our own youngsters going the other way, and presumably we get some kind of cash injection from the EPL club to help us train and develop these youngsters. What are the pros and cons of this kind of scheme? Link to comment
Robbie Winters Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 Given we invest cash into the youth setup, such as it is, with minimal return on that investment when these youngsters fuck off to England at the first sign of talent, would it make more sense for us to become an official feeder club for a real club? Presumably we could forge actual links with an EPL club (the kind of links that in fact exist, as opposed to the kind of fictional links the club usually announces) which would allow us to bring in actual promising youngsters from, say, Newcastle or whoever, and give them games in the first team. Newcastle, or whoever, gets first dibs on any players we develop (they're going to fuck off anyway). We get in talented youngsters for free, we get a fee for our own youngsters going the other way, and presumably we get some kind of cash injection from the EPL club to help us train and develop these youngsters. What are the pros and cons of this kind of scheme? Has it not been done already ? Fulham !! Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 It makes sense in a lot of ways but is also a further public acceptance of what we have now become really. What standing of club do you think would want us as a feeder? Link to comment
Liam Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 its a good idea in theory, and looking at the major points it benefits both clubs; but you have to wonder that if these type of feeder club situations would be so good for us (and other spl teams) why none of them have done so. You would think that if it was of a benefit to us as a club, we would do it. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted April 1, 2012 Share Posted April 1, 2012 A feeder club to a decent club I could cope with. The reality is we'd end up as a feeder club to... Bolton or Fulham or... Stevenage Boro. That would be too much for my AFC-ego to take. Link to comment
minijc Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Kelt, thinking out of the box, something Aberdeen never, ever do. Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted April 2, 2012 Site Sponsor Share Posted April 2, 2012 Not for me thanks. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Given we invest cash into the youth setup, such as it is, with minimal return on that investment when these youngsters fuck off to England at the first sign of talent, would it make more sense for us to become an official feeder club for a real club? Presumably we could forge actual links with an EPL club (the kind of links that in fact exist, as opposed to the kind of fictional links the club usually announces) which would allow us to bring in actual promising youngsters from, say, Newcastle or whoever, and give them games in the first team. Newcastle, or whoever, gets first dibs on any players we develop (they're going to fuck off anyway). We get in talented youngsters for free, we get a fee for our own youngsters going the other way, and presumably we get some kind of cash injection from the EPL club to help us train and develop these youngsters. What are the pros and cons of this kind of scheme? Sounds far too much like a good idea for me Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 It makes sense in a lot of ways but is also a further public acceptance of what we have now become really. also what the scottish game has become. when the 3rd biggest club in the land accept being a monkey feeder club to some other team its sad sad days. perhaps rather than looking to forge offical links with a club from a bigger league we should really be looking to improve our standing in our own league and also to boost our league's importance in the wider world. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 also what the scottish game has become. when the 3rd biggest club in the land accept being a monkey feeder club to some other team its sad sad days. perhaps rather than looking to forge offical links with a club from a bigger league we should really be looking to improve our standing in our own league and also to boost our league's importance in the wider world. I thought Hearts were 3rd biggest now, to be honest. Only once have they missed the Top 6 in the last decade, maintaining consistent top half finishes, they have also finished 3rd or above more times than we have managed top half I believe. And their average gate is close to 30% higher than ours going back years. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 They are the third biggest. We're somewhere about 4th or 5th maybe. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 I thought Hearts were 3rd biggest now, to be honest. Only once have they missed the Top 6 in the last decade, maintaining consistent top half finishes, they have also finished 3rd or above more times than we have managed top half I believe. And their average gate is close to 30% higher than ours going back years. i meant historically. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 i meant historically. Did you? Historically, other than for a 20-yr period, we are not the 3rd biggest club in Scotland. We might be the 3rd biggest Scottish club, but that's a different story. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Did you? Historically, other than for a 20-yr period, we are not the 3rd biggest club in Scotland. We might be the 3rd biggest Scottish club, but that's a different story. i'd think on the international stage we might be. i mean at least foreign people have heard of our club and past players.... Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 All very football manager... cant see many EPL clubs wanting to send their young guys up to Aberdeen (or any other SPL club bar the OF) these days anyway. Our league is poor, our playing conditions are poor, our stadiums are poor and have I mentioned the standard of play. What would they gain in the SPL that they wouldnt gain playing in the English reserve leagues? In fact they are up against a better standard of player in the English reserves than they are in Scotland. Anyone playing Man City reserves would've been up against Tevez over the last 2-3 months. I cant see any benefit for an EPL club, their kids can either learn against the likes of Tevez or Darren 'canna hit a coo's airse we a banjo' Mackie Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 i'd think on the international stage we might be. i mean at least foreign people have heard of our club and past players.... I think you'll find we are above Rangers in the European success stakes. Link to comment
tup Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 No chance, we need to develop our own young players, not rely on a so-called bigger club to do it for us, then take them away the moment they become decent. That way we get cash for them, it's all about investing in the right people in the right positions at the club, something we have been woeful at for some time, epitomised by Willie Miller who should have been bulleted ages ago as a PR disaster. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 No chance, we need to develop our own young players, not rely on a so-called bigger club to do it for us, then take them away the moment they become decent. That way we get cash for them, it's all about investing in the right people in the right positions at the club, something we have been woeful at for some time, epitomised by Willie Miller who should have been bulleted ages ago as a PR disaster. Absolutely. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 No chance, we need to develop our own young players, not rely on a so-called bigger club to do it for us, then take them away the moment they become decent. That way we get cash for them, it's all about investing in the right people in the right positions at the club, something we have been woeful at for some time, epitomised by Willie Miller who should have been bulleted ages ago as a PR disaster. Completely agree... The day we become feeder clubs is the day Scottish football is confined to the shite heap for ever... Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 2, 2012 Share Posted April 2, 2012 Completely agree... The day we become feeder clubs is the day Scottish football is confined to the shite heap for ever... That day was ages ago! Where were you???? We had pizza and lager Link to comment
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