vancouverdon Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Hey, Thought it would be interesting to poll the members here to rate all the 11/12 season players to find out who we think are our best players, what areas need strengthening etc in a semi-statistical way. Was thinking we could rate 1-10, with the ratings being 'calibrated' roughly like this: 10 - Best in SPL9 - Best in SPL8 - Good for SPL7 - Good for SPL6 - Average for SPL5 - Average for SPL4 - Poor for SPL3 - Poor for SPL2 - Worst in SPL1 - Worst in SPL So if you were a championship team (celtic) your top 11 players are probably going to average at about 9-10, if you were a relegated team (dunfermline) your top 11 would probably average 4-5. Aberdeen should probably be aiming for a top 4 finish with players rated between 7 and 8? I'll start. If you think this would be fun/interesting give it a go and I'll find some time to average them all out and then we can discuss what this means for the summer transfers. Please try to be as objective as possible, overly emotional responses may need to be rejected in pursuit of statistical accuracy Jamie Langfield - 7Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 6Youl Mawene - 6Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 5Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 4Kari Arnason - 8Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 7Isaac Osbourne - 7Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 5Michael Paton - 5Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 5Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 6Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 7Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - ?Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Please use same player order to make it easy to create averages. Cheers, Link to comment
MincePie Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 5Rory McArdle - 6 (at CB)Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 5Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 4Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 4Kari Arnason - 8Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 6Isaac Osbourne - 7Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 4Michael Paton - 4Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 5Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 7Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - ?Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 5Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 5Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 4Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 8Darren Mackie - 3Kari Arnason - 8Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 7Isaac Osbourne - 7Fraser Fyvie - 7Mohamed Chalali - 3Michael Paton - 5Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - 6Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - 6Daniel Uchechi - 3Cameron Smith - 7Declan McManus - 6Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted May 16, 2012 Share Posted May 16, 2012 I think this will result in the findings that we dont particularly think we have totally shit players, just a horrible imbalance and shit tactics. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Hey Vancouver Don - I'll be over there on Sunday for a few days - where are some places you'd recommend... Meanwhile... Jamie Langfield - 5Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 5Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 6Chris Clark - 3Robert Milsom - 6Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 1Kari Arnason - 6Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 2Michael Paton - 5Stephen Hughes - 5Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 6M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 5Gavin Rae - 5Ryan Fraser - 5Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - 5Daniel Uchechi - 3Cameron Smith - 5Declan McManus - 5Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
Stoney Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 7Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 7Youl Mawene - 1Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 6Robert Milsom - 9Scott Vernon - 9Darren Mackie - 5Kari Arnason - 9Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 3Peter Pawlett - 3Isaac Osbourne - 3Fraser Fyvie - 3 (this season)Mohamed Chalali - 1Michael Paton - 1Stephen Hughes - 7Josh Magennis - 6Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 6Russell Anderson - 3 (this season)Gavin Rae - 5Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - 1Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 7Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 7Youl Mawene - 1Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 6Robert Milsom - 9Scott Vernon - 9Darren Mackie - 5Kari Arnason - 9Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 3Peter Pawlett - 3Isaac Osbourne - 3Fraser Fyvie - 3 (this season)Mohamed Chalali - 1Michael Paton - 1Stephen Hughes - 7Josh Magennis - 6Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 6Russell Anderson - 3 (this season)Gavin Rae - 5Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - 1Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? That is remarkably positive. Quite clearly fishing with the Russell Anderson rating, but I'm pleasantly surprised at the rest. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 There are some I haven't seen enough of to give a fair rating to. Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 7Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 7Youl Mawene - 3Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 5Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 9Darren Mackie - 4Kari Arnason - 8Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 4Peter Pawlett - 3Isaac Osbourne - 4Fraser Fyvie - 4 (this season - I agree with stoney - not been good)Mohamed Chalali - 2Michael Paton - ?Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 6Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 4Gavin Rae - 5Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - 1Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
Henry Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Darren Mackie - 5 Rory Fallon - 3 Only thing that matters for a striker is goals! Link to comment
Robbie Winters Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 6Rory McArdle - 4Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 5Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 6Chris Clark - 3Robert Milsom - 7Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 1Kari Arnason - 6Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 4Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 2Michael Paton - 5Stephen Hughes - 5Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 6Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - 5Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - 5Daniel Uchechi - 3Cameron Smith - 5Declan McManus - 5Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
Stoney Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Fallon has only scored 2 in the league in 18 league starts, absolutely shocking for a striker. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Don't know about your scale - but my rating out of ten. Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 5Mark Reynolds - 6Yoann Folly - 0 Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 3Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 4Kari Arnason - 7Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 6Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 3Michael Paton - 3Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 4Russell Anderson - 8Gavin Rae - 7Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - 2Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 2Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 8Yoann Folly - 4Youl Mawene - 3Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 4Robert Milsom - 7Scott Vernon - 8Darren Mackie - 0Kari Arnason - 7Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 7Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 4Mohamed Chalali - 3Michael Paton - 3Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 6Russell Anderson - 8Gavin Rae - 7Ryan Fraser - 7Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - 6Daniel Uchechi - 2Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 7Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 0Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 6Darren Mackie - 1Kari Arnason - 6Clark Robertson - 7Rory Fallon - 3Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 2Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 5Gavin Rae - 3Jason Brown - 6 There are some affa generous cheils on here. Clangers 7?? IMO the only player that deserves a good score is Jack. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 7Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 0Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 6Darren Mackie - 1Kari Arnason - 6Clark Robertson - 7Rory Fallon - 3Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6Mohamed Chalali - 2Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 5Gavin Rae - 3Jason Brown - 6 There are some affa generous cheils on here. Clangers 7?? IMO the only player that deserves a good score is Jack. Milsom? I'd have him as our best player. Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Robert Milsom - 8Ryan Jack - 8 IMO the only player that deserves a good score is Jack. Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Langfield - 1McArdle - 4Mawene - 2Considine - 7Clark - 2Milsom - 2 (only cos he's been out since October)Vernon - 7Mackie - 1 Arnason - 6Robertson - 4Fallon - 4Pawlett - 2Osborne - 4Fyvie - 4Chalali - 1Paton - 0Hughes - 2Magennis - 2Jack - 6Megginson - 3Anderson - 2Rae - 3Fraser - 2Brown - 4Masson - 2Uchechi - 0Smith - 1McManus - 1 Most of the young lads are only getting 1's or 2's as they hardly played. Link to comment
Mab Aws Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 This looks like fun. Jamie Langfield - 5Rory McArdle - 5Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 6Youl Mawene - 5Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 4Robert Milsom - 6Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 3Kari Arnason - 7Clark Robertson - 6Rory Fallon - 6Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 7Mohamed Chalali - 4Michael Paton - 3Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 5Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - ?Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? I think the initial marks were overly generous. I believe we have very few 'good' SPL players. Link to comment
Dandyesque Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I was going to do this, until I realised that several people have clearly misunderstood the point. It would now be a complete waste of time Link to comment
K-9 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 I was going to do this, until I realised that several people have clearly misunderstood the point. It would now be a complete waste of timeAye. Same here. Some actually give Folly a mark for last season lol. Link to comment
Rossshepherd Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 5 Rory McArdle - 5 Mark Reynolds - 6 Yoann Folly - / Youl Mawene - 4 Andrew Considine- 6 Chris Clark - 3 Robert Milsom - 7 Scott Vernon - 7 Darren Mackie - 3 Kari Arnason - 7 Clark Robertson - 4 Rory Fallon - 4 Peter Pawlett - 4 Isaac Osbourne - 6 Fraser Fyvie - 6 Mohamed Chalali - 3 Michael Paton - / Stephen Hughes - 5 Josh Magennis - 4 Ryan Jack - 6 M. Megginson - 4 Russell Anderson - 5 Gavin Rae - 5 Ryan Fraser - 6 Jason Brown - 5 Jamie Masson - 5 Daniel Uchechi - / Cameron Smith - 5 Declan McManus - 5 Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Milsom? I'd have him as our best player. Because of that dirty hun cunt he only played half the season though. Did well before that, thats why he got an 8 from me but he didnt play the same amount of games as Jack who, IMO, was our best player this year and with that the only player deserving of a decent score for his whole season. Considine and Robertson got 7's because of their improvement this season as did Reynolds for solidifying our defence. Arneson only got a 6 because he was OK to pap. Every game I went to I was expecting something from him because of the hype on here and in the papers but all i saw was a distinctly average player playing distinctly average fitba. Link to comment
Nespa Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 6Rory McArdle - 5Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 0Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine- 7Chris Clark - 3Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 3Kari Arnason - 8Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 6Peter Pawlett - 6Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 6.5Mohamed Chalali - 3Michael Paton - 3Stephen Hughes - 6Josh Magennis - 4Ryan Jack - 7M. Megginson - 5Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - 0Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - 0Daniel Uchechi - 0Cameron Smith - 0Declan McManus - 0Danny Rogers - 0 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 5Rory McArdle - 7Mark Reynolds - 7Yoann Folly - 0Youl Mawene - 5Andrew Considine- 8Chris Clark - 3Robert Milsom - 8Scott Vernon - 8Darren Mackie - 3Kari Arnason - 7Clark Robertson - 7Rory Fallon - 6Peter Pawlett - 5Isaac Osbourne - 5Fraser Fyvie - 5Mohamed Chalali - 3Michael Paton - 0Stephen Hughes - 5Josh Magennis - 5Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 6Russell Anderson - 7Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - 7Jason Brown - 7Jamie Masson - 6Daniel Uchechi - ? who?Cameron Smith - 7Declan McManus - 6Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
The Boofon Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Fallon has only scored 2 in the league in 18 league starts, absolutely shocking for a striker. How many did Mackie get? Link to comment
Tommy Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Jamie Langfield - 3Rory McArdle - 6Mark Reynolds - 6Yoann Folly - 0 Youl Mawene - 4Andrew Considine - 7Chris Clark - 2Robert Milsom - 6Scott Vernon - 7Darren Mackie - 4Kari Arnason - 7Clark Robertson - 5Rory Fallon - 5Peter Pawlett - 4Isaac Osbourne - 6Fraser Fyvie - 4Mohamed Chalali - 2Michael Paton - 0Stephen Hughes - 5Josh Magennis - 6Ryan Jack - 8M. Megginson - 4Russell Anderson - 6Gavin Rae - 6Ryan Fraser - ?Jason Brown - 6Jamie Masson - ?Daniel Uchechi - 1Cameron Smith - ?Declan McManus - ?Danny Rogers - ? Link to comment
Stoney Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 How many did Mackie get? 1 in 7 starts in the league! So better than fallon. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 1 in 7 starts in the league! So better than fallon. Fallon got 2. Mackie got 1. Strikers are all about goals not percentages. Link to comment
K-9 Posted May 17, 2012 Share Posted May 17, 2012 Fallon got 2. Mackie got 1. Strikers are all about goals not percentages.Aye and Mawene got 2 aswell. Considine got 3. Link to comment
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