Joint Approach? Message To Spl Clubs

[DC_Hibs]

Afternoon,

 

I'd be interested to hear your views on a joint approach to SPL clubs making them aware of the implications should they vote a HunDog Newco into the SPL.

 

The administrators from hibeesbounce website are keen to be involved and I think Aberdeen would be a first starting point to gauge interest from you taking into account your similar views to ours on Rangers which have been made clear in recent weeks on this subject. 1000+ Hibs fans voted 99% in favour of not admitting them on the two main websites.

 

If any other clubs fans are to be involved and which ones could be discussed later if necessary.

 

There are nearly 12000 registered members on hibeesbounce and we could also approach hibs.net who have more members so this is potentially a powerful group to get the message across.

 

With many in the media pandering to Rangers and club chairmen panicking over lost income its up to us DECENT fans to make our voices heard and warn them all of potential boycotts of their stadiums from substantial amounts of travelling fans. I feel a joint approach would be the best idea to achieve this.

 

I apreciate not everyone is in favour of boycotts as many will follow their teams regardless but there are many who will and the fairest outcome according to fans polled at our two clubs is not to admit them.

 

Although Rangers and Celtic are seen as two cheeks of the same ar$e, Celtics vote could also be crucial and their fans have made their point clear earlier in the week.

 

"If any SPL Club votes for an automatic reentry into the SPL of a Newco Rangers then we will immediately enter into discussions with other Celtic supporters' organisations and the wider Celtic support to decide the precise form of the economic sanctions that we will impose on that Club or Clubs."

http://www.celtictrust.net/?func=d_home_article&id=377

 

Here is a link to the hibeesbounce thread including 11 SPL contact email addresses,

http://www.hibeesbounce.com/forum/showthread.php?114355-Hibeesbounce-Anti-Hun-Action

if anyone is keen to be involved from your side we could first agree wording for the email to clubs or just submit independent ones separately. Would be good to hear views on including other clubs which could be done via other forums or the two geeneral football forums mentioned on bounce thread.

 

Here's to fair play and taking the chance to improve scottish football.

[Bobby Connor]

This needs to happen. There is a Killie fan on another thread who is also trying to get something going.

 

AFC Chat and members are pretty unanimous on this so let us know your plans and I'm sure you'll get plenty of backing from here.

[weapon]

This needs to happen. There is a Killie fan on another thread who is also trying to get something going.

 

AFC Chat and members are pretty unanimous on this so let us know your plans and I'm sure you'll get plenty of backing from here.

 

I think it would be best for the email to be the same, with only difference being that of the reference to the club you support as then this shows that the fans groups have been speaking to one another and them it looks more co-ordinated.

 

This needs to happen pretty quick though, do you have a draft email in mind already?

[DC_Hibs]

This needs to happen pretty quick though, do you have a draft email in mind already?

 

Pretty sure an email can be ready to go to all clubs by tomorrow.

 

Will keep you all posted and give a chance for input of course.

[weapon]

Pretty sure an email can be ready to go to all clubs by tomorrow.

 

Will keep you all posted and give a chance for input of course.

 

Just post a draft of any email on here and we will all give our input, once all involved have agreed on the final letter then it can be distributed on mass.

[Mikeyboy1903]

This needs to happen. There is a Killie fan on another thread who is also trying to get something going.

 

AFC Chat and members are pretty unanimous on this so let us know your plans and I'm sure you'll get plenty of backing from here.

 

 

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[robbo]

agreed.

 

think its fair to say youll have the unanimous backing of this place and most other message boards.

[Bobby Connor]

What a wee logo or something "Say No To Newco" that we could pass on to other clubs' messageboards to emphasise it's a united front between the whole SPL?

 

I'm sure BC could knock something up in no time and it could take pride of place on a few club forums?

 

I'd be more than happy to do this.

[K-9]

Maybe worth adding that fans will boycott all grounds of "Yes to Newco" voters.

 

If likes of United want to vote yes (with points penalties) then they should say goodbye to 4500 Dons fans there twice a season.

[sheepiekev]

Maybe worth adding that fans will boycott all grounds of "Yes to Newco" voters.

 

If likes of United want to vote yes (with points penalties) then they should say goodbye to 4500 Dons fans there twice a season.

 

Here here.

Any club that votes yes to NEWCO should suffer the consequences of their cowardice.

Trouble is with a boycott, it's impossible to make it 100% effective.

You can't stop people buying tickets for a game.

[Bobby Connor]

Here here.

Any club that votes yes to NEWCO should suffer the consequences of their cowardice.

Trouble is with a boycott, it's impossible to make it 100% effective.

You can't stop people buying tickets for a game.

Not a fan of boycotts for this reason. Folk will simply stop going to games if the product is a sham.

 

It's not about boycotts, it's about knocking the whole thing on the head.

[fine-n-dandy]

If Rangers get papped and there's still boycotts at other grounds then it'd only harm the product that we're trying to make succeed and therefore proving the Huns right.

 

 

Agreed but it is going to be hard to convince yourself to put money in the pocket of other clubs chairmen who vote yes to new team in SPL.

I know I certainly wouldn't be happy to do this

[fine-n-dandy]

Know what you're saying, but I'd feel happier proving those chairmen wrong than I would proving the Huns right.

 

 

Yeah I suppose & it is ALL about supporting Aberdeen after all & showing our support to them for doing what's right.

Could always voice our protests at these weak chairmen whilst at their grounds anyway.

[DC_Hibs]

Here's the first draft from the appointed Wordsmith - pretty damn good in my opinion without being too threatening.

You may wish to adapt for Aberdeen use, use as is or even ignore but I will have a look here again tomorrow to see your thoughts.

 

Good to see so many positive responses from you so far anyway.

 

Cheers

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Sirs

 

Mindful of the imminent meeting of S.P.L. chairmen to consider the application of Newco Rangers to gain admission to our Premier League, we, the fans of Hibernian F.C., consider it vital that you should be aware of our feelings on the matter so that you are better enabled to come to a decision in the interests of the game of (edited to say) Football in Scotland.

 

Be in no doubt whatsoever that we are fervently opposed to the admission of a club which, though it may have given itself a new name, is of the same spiritual essence, and has been responsible for the greatest fraudulence perpetrated in sport in Scotland, described by an eminent advocate as tantamount to match fixing.

 

We are aware that some among you are fearful of the financial consequences of a league without Newco Rangers. Let us point out to you that any losses you contemplate are minimal compared with what you have already lost in diminished attendances. When disaffected fans realised that they had little or no chance of winning silverware of any kind, they preferred to stay at home. Top league placings, European competition and resultant financial benefits remained, forever, the exclusive, almost right, of the premier two.

 

We put it to you that a future involving a re-admitted Newco promises to be even more bleak financially! A large number of fans are resolved not to return to Scottish football at all! Those who will return have made it clear that they will attend no games involving Newco Rangers or indeed games involving clubs whose directors have acquiesced in inclusion. This is in no way a threat, rather a warning of the financial and other consequences of what we consider a misguided vote.

 

A number of us watched football in Scotland when the playing-field was much more level, when any one of a number of excellent clubs might gain the laurel wreath. That possibility has been thwarted in recent times by filthy lucre, and recently corruption.

 

Let us restore pride and probity to our game, both more important and less ephemeral than a handful of silver. We have no doubt that our game will profit more in so many respects if corruption is consigned to where it belongs.

 

We, the fans of the other Scottish clubs, who are endeavouring to live within our means, would urge you to administer commensurate punishment, no more, and to reject the overtures of a rabid and self-interested Glasgow media. We ask this with the best interests of our game at heart, both local and international. Judas, it must be remembered, gained nothing from his abandonment of integrity.

 

Hibees Bounce

[Bobby Connor]

Happy enough with that barring the inexplicable use of an exclamation mark.

[fifered]

Happy enough with that barring the inexplicable use of an exclamation mark.

And the word soccer

 

Edited already!

[DC_Hibs]

will pass all the points on but both of these are givens with football already pointed out elsewhere!!

[fifered]

will pass all the points on but both of these are givens with football already pointed out elsewhere!!

Glad its not just us that are trying to influence this. Hope it goes well.

[Bobby Connor]

Happy enough with that barring the inexplicable use of an exclamation mark.

 

We have the facility to email everyone who has ever registered on this board. I canna really put out an email that is intended for chairmen to them, More than happy to do whatever to help this cause but the Hatters have already made their feelings known to Duncan Fraser. If you were organizing a march or protest of some sort then it would be easier to back.

[fifered]

Using this letter as a start would it not be worth trying to get supporters clubs of as many teams as possible to sign up and then making it an open letter sent to every paper and every chairman of the spl. that would create publicity and show strength of feeling across Scotland. Given the results of the fans survey recently I would imagine the number of groups involved could be a real show of strength.

[DC_Hibs]

The intention from my side is to email 11 clubs directly with the letter saying it represents the views of x thousand members on the main two Hibs fans websites based on the results of a variety of opinion polls.

 

Hopefully other fan groups would do likewise.

[centraldon]

Admittedly the emails appear to have been effective. But the best thing we can do is hold off paying a single penny to our respective clubs until we see what they do. Chairmen think cash, and we need to demonstrate the implications of bending over.

[Ke1t]

Maybe the Admins/Mod of all major fitba boards could get together on a forum (behind the scenes) and discuss ideas for a potential mass, co-ordinated protest/boycott WHEN Newco is voted into the SPL...

[fine-n-dandy]

How many clubs need to vote no to keep these cunts out of the SPL?

Am I right in thinking 5 no votes keeps them out?

[Bobby Connor]

How many clubs need to vote no to keep these cunts out of the SPL?

Am I right in thinking 5 no votes keeps them out?

 

Yup. 8-5 vote needed, Mind this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=I33_yOlmbdk&NR=1

[fine-n-dandy]

Yup. 8-5 vote needed, Mind this?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=endscreen&v=I33_yOlmbdk&NR=1

 

 

AFC chat awards?

[Coopy100]

Maybe worth adding that fans will boycott all grounds of "Yes to Newco" voters.

 

If likes of United want to vote yes (with points penalties) then they should say goodbye to 4500 Dons fans there twice a season.

I hate boycotts. Seems a rather hunnish thing to do in my eyes. I certainly won't go to Slumdee ushited but that would be a matter of personal taste rather than trying to arrange a boycott of the fans.

 

Best of luck with your endeavours. The noises emanating out of pittodrie are giving me slightly better vibes and this is because they now know the strength of opposition against a hun ressurection club being voted back in. If this helps to spread the word to dickheads like the Killie chairman, who sucks off the old firm and their fans at any given opportunity, then I am all for it and I'm sure most other fans will be as well.

[a don in oz]

I do think individual emails/letters from individual fans to their respective chairmen/chief execs would have more impact as happened with us - anyone can forward on an identikit email.

 

Some sort of joined up action would be decent though.

I agree with both points.

 

 

If you CAN put down your feelings in a non-daft way then the individuality of your own words is definitely better but if you can't think of what to write and that letter covers your feelings then it's better than not sending anything.

 

 

[Old Wing Stand]

If anyone knows the email addresses of any of the other clubs can they post them here so we can let ALL the clubs know our feelings

[DC_Hibs]

If anyone knows the email addresses of any of the other clubs can they post them here so we can let ALL the clubs know our feelings

 

Aberdeen - feedback@afc.co.uk

Celtc - publicrelations@celticfc.co.uk

Dundee Utd - admin@dundeeunitedfc.co.uk

Hearts - paul@homplc.co.uk

Hibs - board@hibernianfc.co.uk

ICT - admin@ictfc.co.uk

Kilmarnock - kirstencallaghan@kilmarnockfc.co.uk

Motherwell - mfcenquiries@motherwellfc.co.uk

Ross County - donnie.macbean@rosscountyfootballclub.co.uk

St Johnstone - karin@perthsaints.co.uk

St Mirren - info@saintmirren.net