StevieT1986 Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/06/30/4134/ The bit at the end is brilliant Link to comment
zoltanvarga Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 http://www.clydefc.co.uk/news/2012/06/30/4134/ The bit at the end is brilliant The entire statement is brilliant in my opinion and shows up the governing bodies for what they've become- desperate! Link to comment
muttondressedaslamb Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 The entire statement is brilliant in my opinion and shows up the governing bodies for what they've become- desperate! Couldn't agree more. This whole saga is showing the world how shambolic our footballing authorities are. Scotland's shame. Link to comment
granite sheep Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 Excellent stuff from Clyde, says a load of stuff that needed to be said about the state of fitba in this country. Why should the authorities expect their member clubs to bend over backwards to accommodate the scums' desires. Fuck the huns, fuck the Strathclyde Football Association, and most importantly fuck Campbell Ogilvie, who MUST walk. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 A good statement and we are seeing that SFL teams have a much more healthy outlook on the sport. Its time we knocked this SPL shite on the head and got back to a situation where these clubs have a real say in how our game is run. I can understand that certain perenially D3 clubs shouldn't have a say over the top teams but frankly the D1 clubs have shown FAR more gumption and common sense than the SPL clubs. I'd welcome a restructuring that, in contrast to the SPL arrogance of sucking more teams into the SPL system, actually saw the top clubs brought back to a more inclusive structure. ie any new league should be run more like the SFL and less like the SPL. BTW: This thread should perhaps be in the League Restructing thread? We have enough threads on the Rangers fall out already. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 How many is that now come out against it? Didn't it only need 5 to vote against it for it not to happen? Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 How many is that now come out against it? Didn't it only need 5 to vote against it for it not to happen? About 4 or 5 publicly against. From memory: Dunfermline, Morton, Raith Rovers, Clyde. I think the vote is put to all the SFL clubs so 30 clubs. I can't remember what the margin for a victory is. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 How many is that now come out against it? Didn't it only need 5 to vote against it for it not to happen? Any applicant to the SFL requires 75% of the teams to vote yes. 30 SFL teams/ 75% = 22.5 teams. So, if 8 teams vote against then, technically, the Huns can go apply to the juniors However, the SPL and SFA says that they've been trying for YEARS to make Scottish football 'more competitive'... but somehow I guess they just haven't had the time. But now that the NewcoHuns need rescued it appears they can, in fact, do all the necessary restructuring in a couple of weeks. How about that? Anyway, 8 No votes and an already interesting situation gets even funnier. Expect to see the SFA have a rule-book burning in a week or so. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted June 30, 2012 Share Posted June 30, 2012 I'm going to stick my neck out here and say that the SFA are not behind the recent proposals and won't support them. They may have been at the discussion but I'll bet they don't support the content of this uncredited proposal. So I think the important thing is for the SFL clubs to make this decision with their eyes open and without fear of these SPL threats. In which case the answer clearly will be please meet all the usual requirements regarding audited accounts, etc etc and then join Div 3 OR just fuck off. Link to comment
stirlingsheep Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 My link Even the Huns agree with this, growing up 2 miles away from Cumbernauld I can't believe that something so coherent, sensible and non-buckfast related could come from that town (apart from Gregory's Girl -which is fucking awesome, if you haven't seen it - watch it). Link to comment
RUL Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Any applicant to the SFL requires 75% of the teams to vote yes. 30 SFL teams/ 75% = 22.5 teams. So, if 8 teams vote against then, technically, the Huns can go apply to the juniors However, the SPL and SFA says that they've been trying for YEARS to make Scottish football 'more competitive'... but somehow I guess they just haven't had the time. But now that the NewcoHuns need rescued it appears they can, in fact, do all the necessary restructuring in a couple of weeks. How about that? Anyway, 8 No votes and an already interesting situation gets even funnier. Expect to see the SFA have a rule-book burning in a week or so.Nah, none of these clubs are rejecting rangers application, they ate rejecting the first division/spl2 proposal. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Nah, none of these clubs are rejecting rangers application, they ate rejecting the first division/spl2 proposal. Whilst I agree - there is of course no rangers in existence any more or at least they are a company in the process of being wound up. What they are implicitly or explicitly rejecting is the fixing of a sport to favour a single organisation - finally, through there own stupidity and crass arrogance the orcs have put themselves in a position where they need the aid of others - their years of manipulation and threats are finally coming home to roost. Maybe they are the people - but the other people don't want them - it is a hard lesson of social justice - and a well known one - be nice to folks on the way up because you might just need them on the way down. How far zombie huns and scottish football fall remains to be seen but in their death throws the level of institutional support is being horribly revealed. After this Scottish football can never be the same - it will either rise phoenix like from the fire of rangers death - or crawl from the grave each saturday to inflict its mock competition on the gullible. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Nah, none of these clubs are rejecting rangers application, they ate rejecting the first division/spl2 proposal. Double post - sorry Link to comment
Bobbyskitter Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 My link Even the Huns agree with this, growing up 2 miles away from Cumbernauld I can't believe that something so coherent, sensible and non-buckfast related could come from that town (apart from Gregory's Girl -which is fucking awesome, if you haven't seen it - watch it).Yeah they agree with the statement but for completely different reasons we do, they think starting in division 3 is a way of making the rest of Scottish football suffer for kicking them when they were down, they think it's Celtic that are pushing the 1st division idea because they need Rangers to survive and to keep the sky deal. They ignore the parts of the statement that that dont fit the agenda, like that a new club has to apply to start in the 3rd division as per SFA or SFL legislation, the rangers support dont accept they are a new club. They are quite happy to agree that the idea to drop them into the 1st division shouldn't happen but as stated before not because it goes against sporting integrity but because they hope the Sky deal and the SPL will be finished without them. Link to comment
Dietl Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 Any applicant to the SFL requires 75% of the teams to vote yes. 30 SFL teams/ 75% = 22.5 teams. So, if 8 teams vote against then, technically, the Huns can go apply to the juniors However, the SPL and SFA says that they've been trying for YEARS to make Scottish football 'more competitive'... but somehow I guess they just haven't had the time. But now that the NewcoHuns need rescued it appears they can, in fact, do all the necessary restructuring in a couple of weeks. How about that? Anyway, 8 No votes and an already interesting situation gets even funnier. Expect to see the SFA have a rule-book burning in a week or so. Didn't someone post in one thread on here, a statement from the SFA or SFL stating that they didn't know where people got the idea that 75% approval was needed? As it isn't written in their rules anywhere. That what is required is a 51% approval rate, which means they only need 16 teams to say yes. Hopefully they will get no where near that, as SFL teams won't see any kind of financial hit through the loss of Servco. Which you would hope would mean that they will be more inclined to tell the SPL/SFA/SFL/Servco to go f*ck themselves. Link to comment
Lang Bar Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 The Clyde statement is spot on, and the growing number of dissenting voices and counter proposals from lower clubs, shows that wider discussion between SFL and SPL clubs is required.The SPL / SFL hastily put together plan is clearly flawed and has been done with the arrogance that they know better than the clubs.Div 3 for huns is clearly the morally correct option, but only if there is proof that they can start and complete the season.If not they are O U T out! Link to comment
Lang Bar Posted July 1, 2012 Share Posted July 1, 2012 I've been coontin thousands of elephants since Feb 14th and they are nae quite gone yet. Maybe too much exposure.It's a well known fact that Caracus are looking for a franchise to enter the Venesualan Premier League.Bella Bella! Link to comment
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