diamondsr4ever Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 with the lack of natural full backs and most of the "targets" being central defenders, I have a sneaky feeling that broon will set us up as a 3-5-2 at times this season any thoughts on that ladies? he was known to prefer thats system during his scotland days. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 well we'll soon find out on Saturday/Tuesday but i wouldnt think so like Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Nah, 4-3-3 looks more likely Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'd say his Scotland formation was more 5-3-1!! We'll line up 4-4-2 I think. Hayes on one wing with the other being occupied by Clark or Fyvie out of position. Link to comment
chester2 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I'd say his Scotland formation was more 5-3-1!! We'll line up 4-4-2 I think. Hayes on one wing with the other being occupied by Clark or Fyvie out of position. I think it will be the 4-3-3 with Hayes/Mcginn either side of Vernon,this becomes a 4-5-1 at away games.If he does play a 4-4-2 with Mcginn up top then hopefully he doesnt play a player out of position on the right but puts someone natural like Pawlett. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I am hoping for the above also. Sounds too positive and attack minded though. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think he'll set up with a 4-2-3-1 trying to play expansive football, short passes, lots of movement and go on the all out attack Who am I kidding, its pa Broon 4-5-1 it is with the occasional forry into 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Think it'll definitely be 4-4-2 since he has stated he'll play McGinn upfront... even though I am yet to hear of anyone who has ever seen him play upfront. Everyone I've spoke to or read speaking about him says he's an out and out winger! Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 Think it'll definitely be 4-4-2 since he has stated he'll play McGinn upfront... even though I am yet to hear of anyone who has ever seen him play upfront. Everyone I've spoke to or read speaking about him says he's an out and out winger! As a youth player in Ireland he was a free scoring striker who was being watched at that point by Chelsea I believe. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 4-4-2 please why make it difficult with 3-5-2. lets make it easy on them, and everyone will know who to mark and what to do. Link to comment
buchanskii Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I expect a 4-5-1/4-3-3 formation, probably with Magennis at RB , and Jack playing in the middle. Hopefully we are more adventurous than last season and I expect big things from Hayes and Milsom! Does anyone expect any breakthroughs from the youth team, Cammy Smith perhaps? Link to comment
Coopy100 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think it will be the 4-3-3 with Hayes/Mcginn either side of Vernon,this becomes a 4-5-1 at away games.If he does play a 4-4-2 with Mcginn up top then hopefully he doesnt play a player out of position on the right but puts someone natural like Pawlett.I think the formation will be quite fluid anyway so it may be hard to tell if he is going 4-3-3 or 4-5-1. Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 with the lack of natural full backs and most of the "targets" being central defenders, I have a sneaky feeling that broon will set us up as a 3-5-2 at times this season any thoughts on that ladies? he was known to prefer thats system during his scotland days. We only have two centre halves with first team experience at the moment, so I can't see it.Reckon it will be the usual 4 at the back. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think he'll set up with a 4-2-3-1 trying to play expansive football, short passes, lots of movement and go on the all out attack Who am I kidding, its pa Broon 4-5-1 it is with the occasional forry into 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 This. ^ I'd love us to be going for the bit in bold too. Posession football, 4-2-3-1. Link to comment
Nespa Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I like 3-5-2 if its played the right way with full backs that can play fitba and can run all day but we would be kidding ourselves on and it would really just fall back into a 5-3-2 Martin O'Neil had it perfect at Celtic when he had guys like Agathe and Petta bombing up and down the wings with the 3 big centre halves sitting with Lennon covering them! Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 10-0-0 is also likely at some point during the season. Regardless of the formation used what is imperative is that the players don't listen to what Brown actually says and instead play their own game. Link to comment
Robbie Winters Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 We only have two centre halves with first team experience at the moment, so I can't see it.Reckon it will be the usual 4 at the back.2 centre halves but with Rae (Reynolds) in behind sweeping I reckon is his plan Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 I think we have the players to play a 4-2-3-1. I don't think we'll play it though. Rae and Osbourne holiding, Milsom in front, McGinn and Hayes on the wings would be excellent. Hughes, Fyvie, Pawlett, Low, Fraser all good cover. And Chris Clark. In all likelihood, we'll play a 4-5-1 with Hayes, Hughes, Rae, Clark, Milsom in the middle. Yay! Link to comment
MURRA Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 as seen in the euro's i think the good old 4-4-2 formation is starting to get a bit dated and old fashioned. england played it and were shite. but cant seebrown doing anything else apart from a possible 4-5-1 Link to comment
The Oxford Don Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 For the love of Christ nooooooooooooooooo! Anything, literally anything, but 3-5-2. Look, footballers in general, and Scottish footballers in particular, are thick as mince. Our players simply aren't tactically astute enough to cope with anything that isn't pretty basic or very familiar to them already. We shouldn't even be contemplating 4-3-3 / 4-5-1, for the precise reason I have given above. Players within that system in Scotland lack the brainpower to work out where they are supposed to be playing. Unless we're playing Barca (3-7-0) or Auchinleck (4-2-4), we should be sticking to a simple 4-4-2 with players who are familiar with the positions they have been chosen to play in. We need to stop pretending that we have players at our disposal capable of playing some sort of expansive, Holland-circa-1988-style total football and accept that we have instead a bunch of (mostly) huddies who may even struggle to deploy the 4-4-2 correctly. Two full-backs who can tackle. Two centre-halves who know how to position themselves. One 'sitting' central midfielder, one more creative. Two pacy wide players. A big target man striker, and a smaller nippy striker who can feed off him and creates chances as well as takes them. Enough. Dicking. About. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted July 12, 2012 Share Posted July 12, 2012 For the love of Christ nooooooooooooooooo! Anything, literally anything, but 3-5-2. Look, footballers in general, and Scottish footballers in particular, are thick as mince. Our players simply aren't tactically astute enough to cope with anything that isn't pretty basic or very familiar to them already. We shouldn't even be contemplating 4-3-3 / 4-5-1, for the precise reason I have given above. Players within that system in Scotland lack the brainpower to work out where they are supposed to be playing. Unless we're playing Barca (3-7-0) or Auchinleck (4-2-4), we should be sticking to a simple 4-4-2 with players who are familiar with the positions they have been chosen to play in. We need to stop pretending that we have players at our disposal capable of playing some sort of expansive, Holland-circa-1988-style total football and accept that we have instead a bunch of (mostly) huddies who may even struggle to deploy the 4-4-2 correctly. Two full-backs who can tackle. Two centre-halves who know how to position themselves. One 'sitting' central midfielder, one more creative. Two pacy wide players. A big target man striker, and a smaller nippy striker who can feed off him and creates chances as well as takes them. Enough. Dicking. About. I'm really not sure what's so wrong with 4-4-2. In a league like the SPL, where everyone is round about the same level of pish, you don't want to have players trying to play football and think at the same time. Defenders defend, midfielders kick their opposite numbers, attackers try desperately to make the football go in the general direction of the net, if at all possible. Sometimes you'll get a player who's almost nae bad, and you can build play around him until the opposition get wise and break his ankle. Simple enough stuff. Link to comment
Sydney_Red Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 For the love of Christ nooooooooooooooooo! Anything, literally anything, but 3-5-2. Look, footballers in general, and Scottish footballers in particular, are thick as mince. Our players simply aren't tactically astute enough to cope with anything that isn't pretty basic or very familiar to them already. We shouldn't even be contemplating 4-3-3 / 4-5-1, for the precise reason I have given above. Players within that system in Scotland lack the brainpower to work out where they are supposed to be playing. Unless we're playing Barca (3-7-0) or Auchinleck (4-2-4), we should be sticking to a simple 4-4-2 with players who are familiar with the positions they have been chosen to play in. We need to stop pretending that we have players at our disposal capable of playing some sort of expansive, Holland-circa-1988-style total football and accept that we have instead a bunch of (mostly) huddies who may even struggle to deploy the 4-4-2 correctly. Two full-backs who can tackle. Two centre-halves who know how to position themselves. One 'sitting' central midfielder, one more creative. Two pacy wide players. A big target man striker, and a smaller nippy striker who can feed off him and creates chances as well as takes them. Enough. Dicking. About. Couldn't agree more. And thank you for describing formations in terms of defense/midfield/forwards. I canna be doing with this modern trend of describing formations over 4 layers. Reminds me of total fuckin tool John Barnes and his 4-2-2-2. What a load of wank toss. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I can't believe some folk actually think Brown will go 4-3-3! Brown has been coaching for 30-odd years. He's always played the same way, so what makes anyone think he's going to change the habit of a lifetime? Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 13, 2012 Share Posted July 13, 2012 I can't believe some folk actually think Brown will go 4-3-3! Brown has been coaching for 30-odd years. He's always played the same way, so what makes anyone think he's going to change the habit of a lifetime? He's got Alzheimer's disease and has forgotten how he used to coach? It'll be the same negative play for a draw and catch them on the break as per every other team he's ever coached. Link to comment
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