ericblack4boss Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 i must admit i have had some of my faith restored in the game thanks to the SFL, always thought of her as a grand old lady, elegant, honest,with high morale standards and of great dignity, who has for over 100 years nurtured the game in this country, it was here baby she looked after all the members, she was fair, sometimes strict not scared to administer the occasional smacked arse if required but at the end of the days she would always look out for the clubs. then she had to put up with a new cousin, a younger, meaner, relative with no manners, no respect of elders, with a disgracefull attitude ok it is only 14 years old, but the SPL is a rowdy teenager, always pushing authority, thinking it knows best, never helping anyone and for a wee while it had corrupted the grand old lady she had been wowed by the razamataz of the younger SPL it had been wooed and told all sorts of sweet things .But thankfully she regained some sanity and dusted herself down and remains the upstanding, morrally correct old lady she has been for over 100 years Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 i must admit i have had some of my faith restored in the game thanks to the SFL, always thought of her as a grand old lady, elegant, honest,with high morale standards and of great dignity, who has for over 100 years nurtured the game in this country, it was here baby she looked after all the members, she was fair, sometimes strict not scared to administer the occasional smacked arse if required but at the end of the days she would always look out for the clubs. then she had to put up with a new cousin, a younger, meaner, relative with no manners, no respect of elders, with a disgracefull attitude ok it is only 14 years old, but the SPL is a rowdy teenager, always pushing authority, thinking it knows best, never helping anyone and for a wee while it had corrupted the grand old lady she had been wowed by the razamataz of the younger SPL it had been wooed and told all sorts of sweet things .But thankfully she regained some sanity and dusted herself down and remains the upstanding, morrally correct old lady she has been for over 100 years Apart from the fact that hun bastard Jim Ballantyne is no.2 in the SFLHe's a proven member of the Rangers Fans Fighting Fund, and was photographed in a hun top at a Linfield v Old Rangers fund raising game.When those two supports get together, you know the lowest from of human beings are all in the one place. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 14, 2012 Author Share Posted July 14, 2012 have to say i just wonder now if the SFL has duped the cartel throughout after having 14 years of being talked down to, treated like shit, accused of being diddy clubs they might have thought "right we will go along with the cunts spin them the Div one yarn, that stupid fucker Donkaycaster might just buy it," along knowing that this was thier chance after 14 years to get it right up the cartel, and my god they took that opportunity.there is no doubt now the SFL hold all the aces, THEY have Sevco as a member club, and sevco must give two years notice to quit. However if say league reconstruction, more money was fed down, some tv coverage agreed and more equal voting rights agreed upon , then they may be willing to allow Sevco to waive the two year rule.I was critical of the SFL for getting involved in the Div one talks but i'm now wondering if they were just playing the cartel and good on them if they were. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Here's what I think will now happen... Over the next couple of months the SPL2 idea will get banded about, talked about and then rejected by the SFL clubs. The SFA will then look to take over. They will create a 2 tier 16 team system and a pyramid structure for clubs to gain promotion into the 2nd tier.This will be run by a new organisation, an amalgamation of the SPL and the SFL, it will be called the SFL and will be run mostly by those people running the SFL. This will be put in place for next season.Sevco will be invited into the 2nd tier of the new structure whether they gain promotion to SFL2 or not in their first season and the hope will be that they then gain promotion in the first year in the new 2nd division. That will give sevco 2 years out of the top flight instead of 3 and it will give the football fans exactly what most have been asking for when all the surveys took place before and during the drafting of the McLeish Report a 16 team league structure. Well, not quite exactly... The 16 team league will still have a split. Instead of revamping the League Cup they will look to have each club play each other home and away and then have 1 more round of games after a ridiculous and pointless split to try and keep the amount of games up. If this was to happen I'd settle for it. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Here's what I think will now happen... Over the next couple of months the SPL2 idea will get banded about, talked about and then rejected by the SFL clubs. The SFA will then look to take over. They will create a 2 tier 16 team system and a pyramid structure for clubs to gain promotion into the 2nd tier.This will be run by a new organisation, an amalgamation of the SPL and the SFL, it will be called the SFL and will be run mostly by those people running the SFL. This will be put in place for next season.Sevco will be invited into the 2nd tier of the new structure whether they gain promotion to SFL2 or not in their first season and the hope will be that they then gain promotion in the first year in the new 2nd division. That will give sevco 2 years out of the top flight instead of 3 and it will give the football fans exactly what most have been asking for when all the surveys took place before and during the drafting of the McLeish Report a 16 team league structure. Well, not quite exactly... The 16 team league will still have a split. Instead of revamping the League Cup they will look to have each club play each other home and away and then have 1 more round of games after a ridiculous and pointless split to try and keep the amount of games up. If this was to happen I'd settle for it. Pretty much as I've called it although I think they might go for 30 games with extra league cup stuff. A split is ridiculous especially if there is only going to be 3 rounds of games. At least at the moment with 4 rounds of games most clubs get 2 home / 2 away against the other teams in the top / bottom half. 3 rounds makes that impossible. League cup groups home and away.Play each other twice in the league. Job done. Throw in a few teams in 3rd division to make it 3 leagues of 16. Link to comment
sheepiekev Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Pretty much as I've called it although I think they might go for 30 games with extra league cup stuff. A split is ridiculous especially if there is only going to be 3 rounds of games. At least at the moment with 4 rounds of games most clubs get 2 home / 2 away against the other teams in the top / bottom half. 3 rounds makes that impossible. League cup groups home and away.Play each other twice in the league. Job done. Throw in a few teams in 3rd division to make it 3 leagues of 16. I'm not liking the home and away League Cup group thing Boof.I preferred the old days of the Skol Cup back in the day, all sorted on the night, cup won in October. Difficult to fit in with European games probably, but like the idea of ties sorted on the night. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm not liking the home and away League Cup group thing Boof.I preferred the old days of the Skol Cup back in the day, all sorted on the night, cup won in October. Difficult to fit in with European games probably, but like the idea of ties sorted on the night. Keeps the hordes happy. 1st couple of rounds for the smaller teams who finished at bottom of the pile are straight knock out. Then onwards to 7 groups of 4 with 2 going through and top 7 teams in top league the season previous kept apart in groups. The best four 3rd placed finishers also go through. Gives some of the weaker teams a chance of going to knock out stages. This would also allow more teams to get a game against the bigger sides than normal opportuniteis in the cup and adds more revenue to them as getting to the groups gives you a game home and away against at least 1 "Big club" Pretty much like the champions league set up. Ideally I'd like the groups to be drawn out of a hat with no seedings at all but appreciate the way football is these days that that wouldn't be well received by the top teams. After groups it's straight knock out 1 leg matches decided on the night. Bang, bang, bang into the final and job's a good un. Could even start it earlier than season kick off with teams in Europe given a smaller group of 3 perhaps so they only have 4 games instead of 6. It's more than workable with a little tweak depending on how many clubs have qualified for Europe. Just reduce or add extra teams who can qualify as a 3rd placed unlucky loser. This way every club in the league apart from the odd unlucky ones who get papped out in preliminary rounds get additional guaranteed games against decent opposition. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 The SPL needs to fall on it's sword as it's been a disaster from day 1. An amalgamation of all the ruling bodies needs to happen and I certainly wouldn't have a problem of having a heavy SFL influence in running it. The vast majority of people and chairmen involved at that level have acted with dignity and integrity. 1 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 The SPL needs to fall on it's sword as it's been a disaster from day 1. An amalgamation of all the ruling bodies needs to happen and I certainly wouldn't have a problem of having a heavy SFL influence in running it. The vast majority of people and chairmen involved at that level have acted with dignity and integrity.Correct. Ballantyne needs to get to fuck though. Conflicting interests with that prick. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 Pretty much as I've called it although I think they might go for 30 games with extra league cup stuff. A split is ridiculous especially if there is only going to be 3 rounds of games. At least at the moment with 4 rounds of games most clubs get 2 home / 2 away against the other teams in the top / bottom half. 3 rounds makes that impossible. League cup groups home and away.Play each other twice in the league. Job done. Throw in a few teams in 3rd division to make it 3 leagues of 16. I'm just going by the proposal that Doncaster put forward Boof, not my ideal either. They put forward the 16 teams with a split and 3 rounds of games. Just shows how fucking clueless that cunt is when it comes to how football should work. I'd rather the League Cup was an actual league format to begin with. Could even make it east coast groups and west cost groups with 2 top tier clubs and 2 second tier clubs. THat way they could give Sky an additional sevco v celtic game as they could be in the same group. Once the group stages are out of the way then have 2 legged quarters and semis that are drawn from the winners of each group and a final . Personally I'd rather have 2 leagues of 20 then there is no need for any other fucking about. 2 teams would unfortunately loose their league status when it first came in but they're all p/t teams anyway so its not exactly going to sink them especially if there is promotion and relegation into the 2nd division from the pyramid system below. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 14, 2012 Share Posted July 14, 2012 I'm just going by the proposal that Doncaster put forward Boof, not my ideal either. They put forward the 16 teams with a split and 3 rounds of games. Just shows how fucking clueless that cunt is when it comes to how football should work. I'd rather the League Cup was an actual league format to begin with. Could even make it east coast groups and west cost groups with 2 top tier clubs and 2 second tier clubs. THat way they could give Sky an additional sevco v celtic game as they could be in the same group. Once the group stages are out of the way then have 2 legged quarters and semis that are drawn from the winners of each group and a final . Personally I'd rather have 2 leagues of 20 then there is no need for any other fucking about. 2 teams would unfortunately loose their league status when it first came in but they're all p/t teams anyway so its not exactly going to sink them especially if there is promotion and relegation into the 2nd division from the pyramid system below. 2 leagues of 20 would work but I think there would be too big a gulf in class between top and bottom sides for it to work. The top 5 or 6 in DIvision 1 at the moment are more than capable of holding their own against bottom 6 in SPL. Beyond that I think they'd struggle a bit. What's imperative is that the league is only play each other twice. That way the chance of league success increases. Let me explain with Celtic and the dead Rangers as an example. Aberdeen play each team 4 times at the moment. Chances are we'd win a game against eaither team and more than likely lose two or maybe even 3 to each team. Gives dead Rangers and Celtic a 6 point jump each on us. The same goes for every other club in the league meaning Rangers and Celtic run away with it. Obviously sometimes teams will take more than 3 points off them and sometimes they will take nothing off them but generally through a season we'd beat Celtic maybe once and dead Rangers maybe once so it's an easier way to work it. Play them twice each and we'd possibly still win one of those games. They'd win the other. Points difference now 0. At worst the gap is 6 points which is no worse than at the moment. The less times we play the big sides the less chance they have of opening up a massive points gap. League gets more competitive and attendances increase as a result. I thought about that for the league cup but my plan is trying to give the underdog a fighting chance of cup success. Both are more than workable. Link to comment
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