V for Vendetta Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 ^ Did Rangers not get a fine and points deduction? I thought that's why Motherwell ended up second before they went bust (although I'm not sure and can't be bothered googling it)@@Monkey Not for the tax avoidance, associated bungs or for lying on 12 years worth of player registration documents no. Think they might have got the standard points penalty for going into adminstration. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 23, 2017 Author Share Posted July 23, 2017 John James having a pop at Milne now. https://johnjamessite.com/2017/07/23/a-masonic-hoodwink/ Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted July 23, 2017 Share Posted July 23, 2017 http://www.football-italia.net/106185/zeman-demands-juve-boycott not just the huns that think they can brush under the carpet Link to comment
RUL Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 John James having a pop at Milne now. https://johnjamessite.com/2017/07/23/a-masonic-hoodwink/This boy is another paranoid Tim weirdo. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 No trolling from me. Just don't see any point in, or reason for, title stripping.As I said before If you are trolling you're an arsehole If you're not you're thick as pig shit. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 On topic, Milne can fuck right off! He is so out of touch with the dons support it's become laughable. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted July 24, 2017 Author Share Posted July 24, 2017 This boy is another paranoid Tim weirdo. He's definitely a loony. But sometimes he does seem to reveal stuff that's interesting. Barrow loads of salt required just to be safe. Link to comment
zander Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 John James having a pop at Milne now. https://johnjamessite.com/2017/07/23/a-masonic-hoodwink/Bead rattling fantasist has a pop at successful business man. File that under the nobody gives a fuck section. Link to comment
Lencarl Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Rangers millions at risk after London firm targets cash from oldco AND newco Wavetower and Sevco 5088 both believe they have strong claims on liquidated assets and for assets held by the so-called “newco”. http://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/scottish-news/rangers-millions-risk-after-london-10858623 Their luck may have just run out Link to comment
BWG Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I hope Wavetower get what they're due. Don't let these shysters off the hook. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 On topic, Milne can fuck right off! He is so out of touch with the dons support it's become laughable.That's because he's got a football club to run and hasn't got time to obsess about stuff that happened years ago. I'd rather he was doing what he's doing rather than pushing for titles being stripped from a club that doesn't even exist anymore apparently. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Genuine question for the 'title strippers' Monkey points out that Livi got a fine and lost points for non payment of taxes. Since this precedent has been set would you prefer this or titles stripped? One issue I have with title stripping is that it's a symbolic punishment rather than an actual one therefore totally pointless. Link to comment
dave_min Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Genuine question for the 'title strippers' Monkey points out that Livi got a fine and lost points for non payment of taxes. Since this precedent has been set would you prefer this or titles stripped? One issue I have with title stripping is that it's a symbolic punishment rather than an actual one therefore totally pointless.You are totally pointless. Link to comment
Parklife Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Genuine question for the 'title strippers' Monkey points out that Livi got a fine and lost points for non payment of taxes. Since this precedent has been set would you prefer this or titles stripped? One issue I have with title stripping is that it's a symbolic punishment rather than an actual one therefore totally pointless.I thought the issue you had was that there was no cheating at all? Link to comment
redstrummer Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Genuine question for the 'title strippers' Monkey points out that Livi got a fine and lost points for non payment of taxes. Since this precedent has been set would you prefer this or titles stripped? One issue I have with title stripping is that it's a symbolic punishment rather than an actual one therefore totally pointless. Eh . Did Livi win anything ?So they lost points , so should the huns and ergo there titles 1 Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I thought the issue you had was that there was no cheating at all? I still reckon they didn't cheat at the sport itself, it was a financial offence, but if Livi have been fined and lost points for similar previously then the same should apply to Rangers. A points penalty and fine this season, similar to Livi, would be more meaningful (and benefit us) Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I still reckon they didn't cheat at the sport itself, it was a financial offence, but if Livi have been fined and lost points for similar previously then the same should apply to Rangers. A points penalty and fine this season, similar to Livi, would be more meaningful (and benefit us)Why do you still not understand that non-payment of tax allowed them to field players they normally couldn't afford? Therefore giving them a massively unfair advantage? Are you really a stupid cunt or a troll? I'm now thinking you might just be a really stupid cunt. 1 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I thought the issue you had was that there was no cheating at all? He's tying himself up in knots with his moronic nonsense Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Why do you still not understand that non-payment of tax allowed them to field players they normally couldn't afford? Therefore giving them a massively unfair advantage? Are you really a stupid cunt or a troll? I'm now thinking you might just be a really stupid cunt.I do understand that but it's not cheating at the sport itself is it? It's not bribing a ref or bribing opponents or taking steroids, not paying taxes is not cheating at football. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I do understand that but it's not cheating at the sport itself is it? It's not bribing a ref or bribing opponents or taking steroids, not paying taxes is not cheating at football.In this instance it was. You don't understand at all. They were able to sign players that were far better than they could afford because they didn't pay tax. These players helped them win silverware because they were far better than the ones they were up against. If you can't understand why that's cheating then you really are a stupid cunt and not worth conversing with. 1 Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 everyone else in scottish football except fatpaps and the huns are wrong. Link to comment
alscotoz Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 In this instance it was. You don't understand at all. They were able to sign players that were far better than they could afford because they didn't pay tax. These players helped them win silverware because they were far better than the ones they were up against. If you can't understand why that's cheating then you really are a stupid cunt and not worth conversing with. SURELY maletits is a WUM. Link to comment
alscotoz Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 In this instance it was. You don't understand at all. They were able to sign players that were far better than they could afford because they didn't pay tax. These players helped them win silverware because they were far better than the ones they were up against. If you can't understand why that's cheating then you really are a stupid cunt and not worth conversing with.Doubler Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 In this instance it was. You don't understand at all. They were able to sign players that were far better than they could afford because they didn't pay tax. These players helped them win silverware because they were far better than the ones they were up against. If you can't understand why that's cheating then you really are a stupid cunt and not worth conversing with. We just have different views on it, why is that so unacceptable? I don't see non payment of tax as cheating, you do, fair enough I understand the point, I just don't agree with it. If you and others are so immature that they can't handle someone having a different point of view then that is unfortunate but it makes me question who the 'stupid cunt' on here actually is. Link to comment
Redstar Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 I'm not a major follower of "mindfulness" but for this type of stuff it works well...remember...the past will only ever depress you and the future will make most anxious...live for the here and now...forget what has gone as it can never be recaptured. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 We just have different views on it, why is that so unacceptable? I don't see non payment of tax as cheating, you do, fair enough I understand the point, I just don't agree with it. If you and others are so immature that they can't handle someone having a different point of view then that is unfortunate but it makes me question who the 'stupid cunt' on here actually is. other opinions are always welcomed, this is just mind blowing stupidity from you. 2 Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 SURELY maletits is a WUM.I did think that but now I'm fairly sure he's just thick as fuck. Link to comment
manboobs109 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 other opinions are always welcomed, this is just mind blowing stupidity from you. You have the most closed mind on here VDA Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 You have the most closed mind on here VDA Give me some examples of where I have shown to have a closed mind this coming from the who blames an entire religion for the actions of a minority and the same guy doesn't understand how the huns cheated. Link to comment
Pudgie Posted July 24, 2017 Share Posted July 24, 2017 Genuine question for the 'title strippers' Monkey points out that Livi got a fine and lost points for non payment of taxes. Since this precedent has been set would you prefer this or titles stripped? One issue I have with title stripping is that it's a symbolic punishment rather than an actual one therefore totally pointless.Well seen as you've agreed that the precedent has been set, punishing them for the offending games would surely be the most apt action, no? That would be the stripping of the honours won during that period. It's nice that you're finally getting there. A points deduction of all the games they'd cheated in (10 seasons worth of points) would relegate them but I'd much rather they had the "tainted titles" stripped. It just makes the most sense. This Wavetower thing is huge! Is it a coincidence that HMRC are now the biggest creditor and suddenly a company wants to boost the creditors pot? HMRC offering incentives for this lot to go and get what they can from the Newco? All this bluster about the money they have could very well come back to bite them on the arse! Is the selling of Murray Park and the car park a viable solution to this with all the cash going into the creditors pot? Link to comment
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