RUL Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Steven Pressley Dear Scottish football, WITH the exception of Celtic, all our sides are out of Europe by the end of August. This scenario has become a regular occurrence, with Celtic flying the flag for Scotland. But the reality is this 4 Link to comment
tup Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I agree with him but the reality is nothing will change because neanderthals have comandeered our game in Scotland as evidenced by the squirming way in which Rangers were dealt with before fans forced the issue. 1 1 Link to comment
robbojunior Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 where's this from? Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I agree with him but the reality is nothing will change because neanderthals have comandeered our game in Scotland as evidenced by the squirming way in which Rangers were dealt with before fans forced the issue.Ooooft! Schoolboy error! No "the" either! 2 Link to comment
Tommy Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 He comes across as a bit of a gype and his dress sense is questionable but hereally does care about Scottish football.It's a shame that the actual leaders of the game up here tend to be clueless individualswith no footballing experience.Time for all the heads of the suits to roll and a revolution kicks off. 2 Link to comment
tup Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Ooooft! Schoolboy error! No "the" either! Not an error at all. I'm talking about the defunct club. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 A bigger top flight is not the answer... It would just be there to subsidise the diddier team which frankly it already does... Let the bigger clubs such as ourselves with a decent track record of developing talent continue to do so. And we all know the SFA/SFL/SPL is bullshit - how many millions go in wages that would be better served improving the game... If a few more football teams have to fall on their sword before they finally realise that they can't exist in their current form so be it. I've said on numerous occasions there should only really be about 20-24 professional teams in Scotland - the rest can all do what they like. 1 Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Not an error at all. I'm talking about the defunct club.Now now. You said: the squirming way in which Rangers were dealt with before fans forced the issue. Fans forced the issue on the newco. Nae the oldco. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Steven Pressley is the most handsome football manager in Scottish football. Link to comment
granite sheep Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Think i saw it in the Daily Ranger on monday, cracking article with many great points. Link to comment
RUL Posted November 30, 2012 Author Share Posted November 30, 2012 It was open letter to Supporters Direct, not totally sure who they are. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 He should be the next Scotland manager. 1 1 Link to comment
tup Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 It was open letter to Supporters Direct, not totally sure who they are. Think this is the new name for hun fans after Mike Ashley bought the naming rights for Castle Greyskull. 1 Link to comment
Nelly Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 when schools & councils stopped kids playing football in grassy areas, on the streets and in playgrounds that's when all our troubles began. Now with academies, parents are expected to pay anything up to 1 Link to comment
tup Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 Correct, in a nutshell. The people of Scotland have ruined the football of Scotland by becoming very precious about just where small children can kick a ball about. i.e. nowhere. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 If Pressley feels this passionately about Scottish Footbalk he should actively be trying to try and force his way into the upper echelons of the ruling bodies. I ken its a closed shop, but we need people like him with this passion for change looking after things, even if he is a Brown Brogue wearing prick. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 A bigger top flight is not the answer... It would just be there to subsidise the diddier team which frankly it already does... Let the bigger clubs such as ourselves with a decent track record of developing talent continue to do so. And we all know the SFA/SFL/SPL is bullshit - how many millions go in wages that would be better served improving the game... If a few more football teams have to fall on their sword before they finally realise that they can't exist in their current form so be it. I've said on numerous occasions there should only really be about 20-24 professional teams in Scotland - the rest can all do what they like. Top flight should be 20 teams. Its the only way to go frankly. Everything else is poo. As soon as you remove the obstacle of playing the old firm 4 times a year the top league becomes competitive again - just look at the effect removing Rangers from the fixture list has already had on the SPL. As for fewer pro/non pro teams this makes no difference whatsover to the league set up - if it becomes a meritocracy by introducing more promotion/relegation and a pyramid then the rest sorts itself out in that regard. He should be the next Scotland manager. Please god no. However, I'd make him SFA president in place of Ogilvie :-) Get William Wallace's sword out of that display case and gie it to Pressley then send him down to Hampden. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted November 30, 2012 Share Posted November 30, 2012 I'm ambivalent about Pressley. He strikes me as being a bit thick, but conversely he talks a lot of sense. I suppose being thick doesn't exclude him from knowing right from wrong, though... and he DID score a cracker of a goal for us against the Deadhuns. The only way there will ever be meaningful change, and change that isn't dedicated to whatever's best for the Tims and the The Scum, is if the entire apparatus of Scotland's governing bodies are dismantled and replaced with a genuine governing body. One which is actually concerned with the health of the entire game. Now, the SFA and SPL won't voluntarily give up power. We've seen proof of that over the last year or so, with the death of the Hun and the desperation with which Regan and Doncaster tried to bully the other clubs into accepting the cheating fucks back into Scottish Football with nary a harsh word said to the filth. Just a cheery, "All your cheating is forgiven, come of back to the top flight with all your trophies and titles intact". If Doncaster and Regan can't even get a simple and clearly obvious ethical decision right then what chance they have the brains to rejuvinate the entire sport? Guys like Pressley and Hartley and anyone else with a set of bollocks, and who cares about Scottish fitba, needs to start a grass roots rebellion against the current power structure, otherwise all the open letters in the world aren't going to budge the penguin faced twat or his buddy. Link to comment
Henry Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I'm ambivalent about Pressley. He strikes me as being a bit thick, but conversely he talks a lot of sense. I suppose being thick doesn't exclude him from knowing right from wrong, though... and he DID score a cracker of a goal for us against the Deadhuns. If you're talking about own goals, that was when he was at the Diet Huns, rather than the dead ones. Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 The number of supporters going to games is also a concern with average attendances in general falling throughout our game. Several weeks ago the combined gate of four SPL games played on the Saturday was around 15,500. For the short term we must address one concerning problem – falling attendances and what is influencing them.How do we get the lifeblood of the game back through the turnstiles because football, after all, is dear? Are you, the supporters, suffering the effects of the economy with less disposable income? the above points Mr Pressley, are nonsense. Link to comment
OddJob Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 the above points Mr Pressley, are nonsense.I know cause at the end of the day a lot of the attendances have always been shite regardless of the "scum" being in the league or not. It's just the way things are sadly, of course not helped by some of the football that is on show either Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 I know cause at the end of the day a lot of the attendances have always been shite regardless of the "scum" being in the league or not. It's just the way things are sadly, of course not helped by some of the football that is on show eitherWell more the fact attendances are actually up almost across the board. Link to comment
OddJob Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well more the fact attendances are actually up almost across the board.I wouldn't go that far tbh, i mean Rugby Park for example still looks shite (mind you they are the ultimate Hun sympathisers ) and Tannadump looks the same too Link to comment
RUL Posted December 1, 2012 Author Share Posted December 1, 2012 Well more the fact attendances are actually up almost across the board. Overall numbers attending SPL games are down, massive reduction, due to rangers 45,000 gone and celtic crowdds dropping significantly. Our crowds are up as are Hibs but it's not like they've increased to huge levels, they've barely reached respectable levels. Other clubs like hearts are well down and there's a few others down so I don't think your right to say they are actually up across the board when more than half the clubs are down and one of the biggest clubs reduction in crowds more than wipes out any increases elsewhere? 1 Link to comment
fatshaft Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 Overall numbers attending SPL games are down, massive reduction, due to rangers 45,000 gone and celtic crowdds dropping significantly. Our crowds are up as are Hibs but it's not like they've increased to huge levels, they've barely reached respectable levels. Other clubs like hearts are well down and there's a few others down so I don't think your right to say they are actually up across the board when more than half the clubs are down and one of the biggest clubs reduction in crowds more than wipes out any increases elsewhere?From figures I recall, more than half the SPL have increased, but I'm not going digging them out. And really, does it matter if the overall figure is down due to Sevco droping 3 leagues? By that logic we might as well say Scottish football is in magnificent health, now that crowds across the SFL have about doubled, and the figures for Div 3 alone don;t bear thinking about. Have the gates dropped at Ibrox? Very little. Have most clubs seen an increase in SPL attendances? Yes. have crowds risen dramatically in Div 3? Yes. There's your argument. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted December 1, 2012 Share Posted December 1, 2012 From figures I recall, more than half the SPL have increased, but I'm not going digging them out. And really, does it matter if the overall figure is down due to Sevco droping 3 leagues? By that logic we might as well say Scottish football is in magnificent health, now that crowds across the SFL have about doubled, and the figures for Div 3 alone don;t bear thinking about. Have the gates dropped at Ibrox? Very little. Have most clubs seen an increase in SPL attendances? Yes. have crowds risen dramatically in Div 3? Yes. There's your argument. The maths isn't exactly spot on but that's a fucking brilliant post Fatshaft. :applause: Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Did the game not start to fall around the emergence of the SPL? The biggest disaster in Scottish football history. The funniest thing is that they actually want to expand the SPL joke. Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted December 2, 2012 Share Posted December 2, 2012 Overall numbers attending SPL games are down, massive reduction, due to rangers 45,000 gone and celtic crowdds dropping significantly. Our crowds are up as are Hibs but it's not like they've increased to huge levels, they've barely reached respectable levels. Other clubs like hearts are well down and there's a few others down so I don't think your right to say they are actually up across the board when more than half the clubs are down and one of the biggest clubs reduction in crowds more than wipes out any increases elsewhere? Its true to say the overall figure is affected aversely by Rangers demise BUT what matters is the attendances for each club and most are seeing a benefit or if they have dropped its fairly insignificant. So the loss of 45,000 home fans from Ibrox every week doesn't make any difference to other SPL clubs. With the extra away fans at the third division its kindoff win-win as well. Link to comment
RUL Posted December 2, 2012 Author Share Posted December 2, 2012 My opinion is come end of season averages will be down. In our case if we'd lost yesterday crowds would fall and I believe the same of hibs if they lost today, although I expect both they and us to progress in the end. I think the true indicator will be income, in our case we are letting u12s in for free and endlessly giving free tickets. I agree with both promotions but feel that pressley is right here, numbers are falling and this was bourne out as with us barely scaling 6,000 yesterday and we only got 7,500 for a league cup quarter final. Everyone is so quick to refer to last years crowds, including myself, that we sometimes forget last years crowds seen us and hibs reach our lowest possible levels. Footballs over priced and the quality is terrible here, I don't expect barca quality but I do expect to see the same basic levels of quality I seen 20 years ago in aberdeen Link to comment
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