terenceandphilip Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 some things would be better left unsaid. The government are considering non payment of the winter fuel allowance to British pensioners residing in Spain and Greece. Link to comment
daytripping Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 some things would be better left unsaid. The government are considering non payment of the winter fuel allowance to British pensioners residing in Spain and Greece.I hate how the tories are taking flack for cutting the benefits, if it wasn't for the shambles the last lot left then they wouldn't have to even look at benefits, fact it we're skint and need to cut back, that involves all. If Labour had won the election we'd be heading for a Greek style meltdown. As for pensioners living abroad getting winter fuel payments I presume that's a joke? 1 Link to comment
Henry Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 As for pensioners living abroad getting winter fuel payments I presume that's a joke? It's true Link to comment
terenceandphilip Posted January 10, 2013 Author Share Posted January 10, 2013 I don't think anyone's giving the Tories much flack for this tbh. Working folk are sick of scroungers and the days of Labour being the party for the working man are long gone - party for minorities now. Benefits are supposed to be there as a safety net, not a way of life. BBC went to the streets of Luton (where pay is lower than the uk average) and were surprised that everyone they interviewed agreed with benefit cuts! Just goes to show. Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Selfish bastards, swanning off to the med and fleecing the UK taxpayer. Note to self: look up the status of this when 60 Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I hate that I sound like a fucking Tory but as someone who's self employed and frequently goes through quiet times in my work we've become a society that not only expects hand outs but feels deserving of them. My old man was always of the "If you can't afford it, you can't have it" mentality and still to this day, when I could have signed on I never did. The simple fact is whether you hate the fucking millionaires at the top or the supposed scroungers at the bottom, everyone's got a reason why we should or shouldn't do something. This country is fucked - it needn't be, but no one's got the balls to initiate the sort of benefit cuts and tax reforms that should happen. We should be a fucking wealthy country but we no longer have an export industry and everyone wants to take the shortest way possible. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 See that "If one parent is earning more than 60k you lose your child benefits" thingy, how does that work if both parents income amount to over 60k, i.e. both on 30k+? Do they still lose the benefits or is it only based on a single parents income? Link to comment
The Boofon Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 See that "If one parent is earning more than 60k you lose your child benefits" thingy, how does that work if both parents income amount to over 60k, i.e. both on 30k+? Do they still lose the benefits or is it only based on a single parents income? You get it as long as you're both under the threshold. If one of you earns more than the threshold it's stopped. Link to comment
diamondsr4ever Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 I dont get this myth that we are a nation of "hand-outs" all my mates work, all my mates parents work or worked, I dont know much people who are unemployed? I've know a handfull of lazy cunts that are glad to live on Link to comment
Old Wing Stand Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well said, dj_bollox. Too many think the world/state owes them an existence. Nuke Glasgow and Liverpool, the biggest claimants of sickie on the planet. So what if a few hard working weegies and scouse get wiped out in the fall out. The greater good rules. Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 You get it as long as you're both under the threshold. If one of you earns more than the threshold it's stopped.So you both could be earning Link to comment
RUL Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 So you both could be earning Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 MT will these benefit caps not fuck up your mortgage? how will you afford it now? Link to comment
The Boofon Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 So you both could be earning Link to comment
The Boofon Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 MT will these benefit caps not fuck up your mortgage? how will you afford it now? Millertime has kids? Link to comment
Foster14 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 10% of it. The full amount is received for under Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Again the thing for me is the statement "What you're entitled to..." You should be entitled to fuck all... You can be given, awarded, subsidised, assisted etc. But the fact that so many people are going "it's what I'm entitled to" is just wrong. Fix the flaws, eradicate the concept of entitlement and you might start to have a benefit system that benefits those who actually need it. And make sure you get the money off the millionaires too, although much like controlling the internet I think a singular government has fuck all chance of that. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 some things would be better left unsaid. The government are considering non payment of the winter fuel allowance to British pensioners residing in Spain and Greece. Hmmm... certainly less homicidal than Thatcher's refusal to pay Scottish pensioners a winter heating allowance until it got several degrees colder than in England because the Scots are 'hardier'. Yeppers, them 70 and 80 year old Scots laugh at hypothermia. Link to comment
Nelly Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 It is ridiculous though, that a couple earning Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well said, dj_bollox. Too many think the world/state owes them an existence. Nuke Glasgow and Liverpool, the biggest claimants of sickie on the planet. So what if a few hard working weegies and scouse get wiped out in the fall out. The greater good rules. I think that this would solve about 40% of our countries problems. And I'm not joking. Link to comment
tommo1903 Posted January 10, 2013 Share Posted January 10, 2013 Well said, dj_bollox. Too many think the world/state owes them an existence. Nuke Glasgow and Liverpool, the biggest claimants of sickie on the planet. So what if a few hard working weegies and scouse get wiped out in the fall out. The greater good rules. I think that this would solve about 40% of our countries problems. And I'm not joking. Link to comment
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