Where To Next ?

[barassie_afc]

I was going to title this massive improvement, but that would be childish. I fear my positivity after the Killie away was a blip. I have watched us a lot , admittedly on the telly since and frankly it is as a bad in terms of watching football as anything I have ever seen. Last night we had players making horrendous amateur decisions, unable to pass ( nothing to do with the pitch) , looks like the out of contract guys have chucked it.

 

There is part of me feels sorry for Brown, he was brought in to keep us up. Fair play he did. However any manager other than Mcghee would have, and again , as a financcial decision an utterly horrendous decision by the board. There was no long term plan vis a vis Brown

 

I feel, the new guy, whoever that maybe , is doomed to failure. We will have what 5-6 players at least leaving the club( I fully expect Mcginn to go also) leaving us with a shell of average plodders and youngsters, Ryan Jack aside, who are frankly not up to scratch. We appear to continue, in the main, to produce sub standard wastrels. Personally I would bin the youth system it doesnt work, plough the money back into the first team.

 

 

It is a massive rebuilding job, again......I simply dont think we have the structure in the club to assist whoever we have coming in. This season's appalling failure will leave another hole in the accounts and increase the debt, less money for the new guy. The new guy comes in it is going to take some time for the team to get motoring , meanwhile more money is lost. It really is a vicious downward spiral.

 

Imagine if it is Derek Adams, so Mr Yule who is the one of highest paid operatives at our club...Yule : Duncan Fraser........... therein is the issue...... we need a massive cultural and corporate transformation at the club, Mcghee was correct , we need to get rid of the "drainers".

 

Best of luck Derek, you are going to need it

[Stoney]

The whole things fucked, a new manager isnt going to make a differance!

 

NOTHING has been learned from the calderwood fiasco!

[Huntlysheep]

Who knows but it certainly wa be to Hampden this season or Europe next season. It'll be 9th for 4th year in a row.

[gypsymuffin]

frankly it is as a bad in terms of watching football as anything I have ever seen.

 

agree with that.

[Kilkito]

Good post Barassie, and hard to argue with, my depression has deepened.

 

Theres been a number of posts stating we have the makings of a good squad, as the season has gone on this has looked less and less the case, particularly with Anderson, Hughes and Rae getting worse with every game. In terms of players we'd want here next season, theres only really Considine, Reynolds, Jack, Milsom, McGinn, Smith, Hayes, the likes of Langfield, Robertson, Magennis, Vernon, Fallon, Hughes and Rae can all go, and theres a few debatables like Pawlett and Osbourne.

 

Thats a huge rebuilding job once again, does the club or Milne have the funds or the inclination to do this?

 

Only way out that I can see is some 3rd party investor(fat chance) or else some sort of fans fund raising, share issue, to raise the required money.

 

Without some major investment, its hard to see how we can turn this depressing cycle around, and the fan base will continue to plummet, could you imagine in 10 years time, fans getting misty eyed thinking back to the days we had the likes of Vernon and Fallon up front!!!!

[gla5gowdon]

I'd keep Josher, he's cheap and will play anywhere he's asked.

[Huntlysheep]

I'd keep Josher, he's cheap and will play anywhere he's asked.

Yup agree there a good squad player.

[ollie1903]

I'd keep Josher, he's cheap and will play anywhere he's asked.

If anyone witnessed Magennis last night and still advocates keeping him then they can get fucked.

 

I think you're taking the piss, for the avoidance of doubt.

[tup]

If anyone witnessed Magennis last night and still advocates keeping him then they can get fucked.

 

I think you're taking the piss, for the avoidance of doubt.

 

It's not just last night, he's been rubbish since he signed, with the odd burst of semi-respectable form for 10 minutes in the odd game.

[Jute]

Yup agree there a good squad player.

 

For a team looking to fight relegation maybe but pish tries hard players like Magennis have no place in a team that is supposedly focusing on fighting for Europe.

[ollie1903]

For a team looking to fight relegation maybe but pish tries hard players like Magennis have no place in a team that is supposedly focusing on fighting for Europe.

Magennis has no place in professional football

[zerodon47]

It's not just last night, he's been rubbish since he signed, with the odd burst of semi-respectable form for 10 minutes in the odd game.

 

exactly. bar his wonder goal v caley and his boundless energy he is an abomination of a footballer and has been only that since he came here. sad days when a player like him is such a regular figure in our team. i was gonna say he wouldnt get anywhere near the team even 10 years ago, when we were by no means amazin, but he wudna get near the team 5 or 6 years ago!

 

EDIT: im nae just slaggin him, my point was meant to be how shit wev become as a club that we employ such 'players' as magennis.

[Foster14]

One of the people behind us kept on shouting about Magennis being free on the right hand side in the second half. One time it goes out to him where he takes two horrific touches to try and get it under control, letting people get closer to him, then he just ran straight in to the defender. It was embarrassing seeing that level of ineptitude from an Aberdeen player, though it wasn't exactly limited to him last night.

 

I can only assume the thinking last night was to have pacier full backs to deal with Sproule (i.e. thinking about setting up not to concede over setting up to try and score).

[Stoney]

Look at the job the next manager has been tasked with.

 

Jamie fucking langfield - no back up keeper

 

Andersons finished, Naysmith finished

 

Osbourne / Milsom never fit enough to play - pawletts also had his problems

 

Rae / Hughes totally finished can count their good games on one hand

 

Vernon as much as i like him is past his best, fallon should never have been signed in the first place

 

Mcginn is as selfish a striker as i have seen, getting the goals but also goes on his own far too often when theres a pass on.

 

Positives!!!!

 

Ryan Jack, Hayes, Shaunessy, Considine, Reynolds and the mergence of Smith & Mcmanus.

 

I really do feel for the poor mug that takes on this squad, its akin to what calderwood left us with, clapped out journey men who dont give a fuck about the club and are only here for the final pay day!

 

its like 2008 but with less money!

[King Street Loon]

I'd keep Josher, he's cheap and will play anywhere he's asked.

or

 

Yup agree there a good squad player.

or

 

If anyone witnessed Magennis last night and still advocates keeping him then they can get fucked.

 

I think you're taking the piss, for the avoidance of doubt.

He truely is an abortion of a player.

 

Look at the job the next manager has been tasked with.

 

Jamie fucking langfield - no back up keeper

 

Andersons finished, Naysmith finished

 

Osbourne / Milsom never fit enough to play - pawletts also had his problems

 

Rae / Hughes totally finished can count their good games on one hand

 

Vernon as much as i like him is past his best, fallon should never have been signed in the first place

 

Mcginn is as selfish a striker as i have seen, getting the goals but also goes on his own far too often when theres a pass on.

 

Positives!!!!

 

Ryan Jack, Hayes, Shaunessy, Considine, Reynolds and the mergence of Smith & Mcmanus.

 

I really do feel for the poor mug that takes on this squad, its akin to what calderwood left us with, clapped out journey men who dont give a fuck about the club and are only here for the final pay day!

 

its like 2008 but with less money!

You forgot Clark

[King Street Loon]

I'd keep Josher, he's cheap and will play anywhere he's asked.

or

 

Yup agree there a good squad player.

or

 

If anyone witnessed Magennis last night and still advocates keeping him then they can get fucked.

 

I think you're taking the piss, for the avoidance of doubt.

He truely is an abortion of a player.

 

Look at the job the next manager has been tasked with.

 

Jamie fucking langfield - no back up keeper

 

Andersons finished, Naysmith finished

 

Osbourne / Milsom never fit enough to play - pawletts also had his problems

 

Rae / Hughes totally finished can count their good games on one hand

 

Vernon as much as i like him is past his best, fallon should never have been signed in the first place

 

Mcginn is as selfish a striker as i have seen, getting the goals but also goes on his own far too often when theres a pass on.

 

Positives!!!!

 

Ryan Jack, Hayes, Shaunessy, Considine, Reynolds and the mergence of Smith & Mcmanus.

 

I really do feel for the poor mug that takes on this squad, its akin to what calderwood left us with, clapped out journey men who dont give a fuck about the club and are only here for the final pay day!

 

its like 2008 but with less money!

You forgot Clark

[Stoney]

Listing McGinn as a negative

 

Rae and Naysmith will be off in the summer I'd expect.

 

Shot of Fallon and get the right player to play up with McGinn.

 

A new manager can quite easily sort that out and set the team up to play correctly - surely if Brown/his tactics have cost us points then a different, competent manager would have had us clear in 2nd?

 

 

Sorry is Mcginn one of those above critisism?

[vanderark14]

Sorry is Mcginn one of those above critisism?

 

nobody said that but he's certainly not a negative.

[Huntlysheep]

nobody said that but he's certainly not a negative.

Agree with you there VDA.

[Bluto10]

The whole things fucked, a new manager isnt going to make a differance!

 

NOTHING has been learned from the calderwood fiasco!

 

 

for me its not about the manager.

 

the problem with AFCisnt pitch side matters, - its terrrace apathy.

 

and the problem for that lies with the suits who will happily see 3/4 of the ground lie empty every game.

[vanderark14]

for me its not about the manager.

 

the problem with AFCisnt pitch side matters, - its terrrace apathy.

 

and the problem for that lies with the suits who will happily see 3/4 of the ground lie empty every game.

 

where do you think the apathy stems from - the pitch and lack of desire/passion/ambition/competitiveness on it

 

oh and welcome to the AFC section of the board

[Bluto10]

where do you think the apathy stems from - the pitch and lack of desire/passion/ambition/competitiveness on it

 

oh and welcome to the AFC section of the board

 

funny man.

 

look i have supported man utd through thick and thin. you try cheering on djemba djemba and clayton blacmore - ive still come back for more.

 

people are happy to accept not winning titles and competing at the top end.

there are countless examples of that in british football.

 

going to a game is about the match day experience [wretch] and that is non existent at pittodrie.

 

improve that and fans will come back. regardless of results the bedrock of a succesful club is a healthy attendance.

[Foster14]

Price

Entertainment

 

The only two things of real importance.

[vanderark14]

funny man.

 

look i have supported man utd through thick and thin. you try cheering on djemba djemba and clayton blacmore - ive still come back for more.

 

people are happy to accept not winning titles and competing at the top end.

there are countless examples of that in british football.

 

going to a game is about the match day experience [wretch] and that is non existent at pittodrie.

 

improve that and fans will come back. regardless of results the bedrock of a succesful club is a healthy attendance.

 

the only thing fans want is to see their team give everything on the park by having a go at the opposition.

 

if we had a team that did this then crowds would not be dwindling

[RTYD]

I was going to title this massive improvement, but that would be childish. I fear my positivity after the Killie away was a blip. I have watched us a lot , admittedly on the telly since and frankly it is as a bad in terms of watching football as anything I have ever seen. Last night we had players making horrendous amateur decisions, unable to pass ( nothing to do with the pitch) , looks like the out of contract guys have chucked it.

 

There is part of me feels sorry for Brown, he was brought in to keep us up. Fair play he did. However any manager other than Mcghee would have, and again , as a financcial decision an utterly horrendous decision by the board. There was no long term plan vis a vis Brown

 

I feel, the new guy, whoever that maybe , is doomed to failure. We will have what 5-6 players at least leaving the club( I fully expect Mcginn to go also) leaving us with a shell of average plodders and youngsters, Ryan Jack aside, who are frankly not up to scratch. We appear to continue, in the main, to produce sub standard wastrels. Personally I would bin the youth system it doesnt work, plough the money back into the first team.

 

 

It is a massive rebuilding job, again......I simply dont think we have the structure in the club to assist whoever we have coming in. This season's appalling failure will leave another hole in the accounts and increase the debt, less money for the new guy. The new guy comes in it is going to take some time for the team to get motoring , meanwhile more money is lost. It really is a vicious downward spiral.

 

Imagine if it is Derek Adams, so Mr Yule who is the one of highest paid operatives at our club...Yule : Duncan Fraser........... therein is the issue...... we need a massive cultural and corporate transformation at the club, Mcghee was correct , we need to get rid of the "drainers".

 

Best of luck Derek, you are going to need it

 

We know the negatives so the positives for me are:

 

Reynolds

Jack

Hayes

McGinn

Considine

Rae (Yes Rae)

Robertson

Smith and the other youngsters.

 

The guts of a team there. Probably missed a couple out but hey ho.

 

I also think we will hear about a new training facility in the not too distant future.

 

The right manager and away we go.

 

 

[Poodler]

Ozzy will be off anyway

[Redstar]

We know the negatives so the positives for me are:

 

Rae (Yes Rae)

...a poor attempt at that...well past his sell by...probably the GWT's biggest signing error...some on here rate him but once you've taken the career route he did...you forfeit the right to wear the AFC jumper...end of story

[Bluto10]

the only thing fans want is to see their team give everything on the park by having a go at the opposition.

 

if we had a team that did this then crowds would not be dwindling

 

that supposes then that the attendees care for the intricacies of the game.

 

i would suggest 80% of fans are more relaxed about the minutae of tactics etc.

 

i think they would turn up if it was cheaper and & the faciliteis were better

[Foster14]

that supposes then that the attendees care for the intricacies of the game.

 

i would suggest 80% of fans are more relaxed about the minutae of tactics etc.

 

i think they would turn up if it was cheaper and & the faciliteis were better

 

The facilities have been the same throughout the season, but yet we have had a high attendance of 18k for a league game, and circa 6k for a league game. Yesterday's attendance was 1k less than prepaid season (and half season) tickets. So those last two things are obviously a lot less important than the key factor - entertainment value.

[Bluto10]

The facilities have been the same throughout the season, but yet we have had a high attendance of 18k for a league game, and circa 6k for a league game. Yesterday's attendance was 1k less than prepaid season (and half season) tickets. So those last two things are obviously a lot less important than the key factor - entertainment value.

 

people will turn up if its

 

a)nae too expenive [it currently is]

b)you arent going to get completely soaked in bad weatehr

 

even

c) getting some semi decent food and drink is quite important to some folk. esp if tehy are bringing their kids.

 

 

 

you underestimate how important it is to be in a full-ish stadum.

 

nobody wants to be in a half emplty stadium.