buchanskii Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I've been debating/arguing with my mate about whether Magennis should be given a new contract and wanted to gauge the opinion of the hat... I personally vote NO. I've seen people argue that he has a presence in the game, he is young and his strength/pace can be effective. I think he is a below average footballer with an awful touch, and that other youngsters should be given a game in his place. We only have to look at 17 year old Gauld for Utd storming into their side and tearing us a new one. Cammy Smith could be doing the same for us... He's an impact sub at best. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yes, just. Low cost and can be quite effective in games. I wouldn't want him in our strongest X1 though (for next season). 2 Link to comment
Huntlysheep Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Keep him he's done more than Vernon & Fallon. 2 1 Link to comment
dave_min Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 No amount of athleticism/attitude makes up for his lack of footballing ability. Get him to fuck. 1 Link to comment
dave_min Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Keep him he's done more than Vernon & Fallon. You need to set your standards higher. 1 1 Link to comment
Huntlysheep Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Keep him he's done more than Vernon & Fallon. You need to set your standards higher.Maybe so loon but after seeing Vernon & Fallon, Magennis looks shithot to that two this season. Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I remember we gave multiple contracts to a young pacy striker before. Darren Mackie!!!! It's a no from me. Link to comment
Pash Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 He is a one man bench so comes in handy. Link to comment
Huntlysheep Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I remember we gave multiple contracts to a young pacy striker before.Darren Mackie!!!! It's a no from me.Mackie seems like Messi compared to Fallon, why Broon signed him i'll never ken? Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 There's something about him that makes me say aye, give him one more year. Probably because, as said above, he's done more for us this season than the likes of Vernon, Falon, Hughes and Naysmith. As a squad player he's OK to have on the bench and to pump on if we're behind. He's also scored a couple of crackers and been close with a few other punts. He's maybe another season away from being the next Darren Mackie or Deek Young. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 No amount of athleticism/attitude makes up for his lack of footballing ability. Get him to fuck. Correct. If Aberdeen FC has any ambition, we cannot consider players like Magennis. Technically he's nowhere near good enough to play at SPL level. However, I could see the merit in giving him a one-year deal, as it's going to take us more than a year to reach our goal of being competitive at the right end of the SPL. We are where we are - and as sad as it is there is no getting away from that.... Even more sadly, Magennis has become a viable option to change things up from the bench if plan A isn't working. Link to comment
afc_blockhead Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Not sure to be honest on Magennis. He was absolutely abysmal on Saturday, his main problem being a lack of intelligence (football and general!) which I don't think he will ever have. As others have said maybe an impact sub at best. Fallon for all his haters was the most effective of our strikers on Saturday when he came on (not saying much I know). He actually managed to hold up the ball, win some free kicks and have a decent effort on goal which was deflected behind for a corner. Vernon can fuck off, he is so utterly shite it is unreal. Not only did he throw away the game in the last minute on Saturday but previous to that he miscontrolled every single ball he got in to feet and did fuck all with it when he finally managed to control it. He was worse on Saturday than even Darren Mackie ever managed to be. Link to comment
bonzodaddy73 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I remember we gave multiple contracts to a young pacy striker before.Darren Mackie!!!!It's a no from me.Mackie seems like Messi compared to Fallon, why Broon signed him i'll never ken? Even for Dazzler the arrival of Fallon must have been a kick in the nuts. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 its a no from me too get rid of Fallon, Vernon and Magennis. sign two decent strikers with their wages and start using the likes of Cammy Smith Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Yip. He's improved from his first 2 seasons. He couldn't run with the ball without falling over to begin with but now he can run with it and his shooting has definitely improved. I would get rid of Vernon (if anyone will take him) and Fallon and bring in 1 or 2 new strikers but would keep Magennis as he is a good squad player for us on a cheap wage. Batistuta, McGinn, Mcmanus, Smith & Magennis Link to comment
barassie_afc Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 The old disease "he is good to come off the bench" , we need players that are good enough to win games. Nice lad, but he wont improve, his volley from a few weeks ago underlined his lack of ability, there will be highland league players with more ability and technique than this lad Link to comment
Huntlysheep Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I remember we gave multiple contracts to a young pacy striker before.Darren Mackie!!!!It's a no from me.Mackie seems like Messi compared to Fallon, why Broon signed him i'll never ken? Even for Dazzler the arrival of Fallon must have been a kick in the nuts.Totally agree there with you, Fallon was some striker 22 goals in 132 apps for Plymouth says it all. Link to comment
Pudgie Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I've voted no. If his wage could help then get rid. There's no need to keep him if we can get someone better. We should have one player for every position and just fucking keep them there. 1 Link to comment
buchanskii Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 Surprisingly close I thought it would be a landslide 'No' vote. We must surely be the only team that doesn't utilize loans from English clubs also, there must be a decent young striker looking for first team football from some premiership club. (Although saying that Ngoo at Hearts was dreadful at Pittodrie!) Link to comment
rossafc92 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 I really don't have a clue on this one. There are times when he looks effective in terms of his strength, pace and power. But the guy has zero footballing ability. The times where he has appeared to be effective up front are down to the fact that he doesn't know himself what he's going to do next, therefore the opposition's defenders don't know what's coming next either. It's a lottery what's going to happen when he's on the ball. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 No from me. Magennis has had 3 years to try and show he is worth more than being back-up and he hasn't done it. All he can do his hold back the development and opportunities of young players like Smith and McManus. In the likely situation that we are stuck with Vernon till the end of his contract, I'd want Fallon and Magennis out, one replacement striker in there with more opportunities for the youngsters. Cut down on the amount of central midfielders (though hopefully enough to keep Hughes out of the team) and divert that in to getting in a winger who can play week in week out on the opposite wing to Hayes. If the most valid argument is that he is a cheap option, surely the under 20s can be depended on for cheap back-up options? Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 You should have made the vote public min! Where are 10 yes votes coming from?! Link to comment
buchanskii Posted April 8, 2013 Author Share Posted April 8, 2013 You should have made the vote public min! Where are 10 yes votes coming from?! I tried looking for that option, couldnae find it If I can edit it then I will. I'd also like to see who voted 'Yes'!! Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 IF we can get a better player on the same money I'm all for it, though Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 IF we can get a better player on the same money I'm all for it, though If he is as cheap an option as people say, then take his wages and add it on to a couple of other new contracts over and above what we are paying the likes of Fallon, Osbourne and Milsom. Keep cheap back-up options to youth players, it doesn't seem to do harm to most of the other teams in the league. I would also be quite surprised if Magennis is on less than some of the players at the Highland teams who have far out performed him this year. Link to comment
stuartyboy Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Keep him he's done more than Vernon & Fallon.Sorry, but that's no reason to keep a player. All 3 need to be moved on in the summer! Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Roberto, I don't see anything to back up your summation that Magennis is good in his natural position. Bripod, would you not prefer strikers whose remit wasn't just to be some use, for the last 10 minutes of a game when defenders are tiring? Even then I have seen him cause problems, get in to a good position, and then do something woeful. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Actually, to put this most simply, I think we already have too many players contracted for next year who are not good enough for the first team at AFC (Clark, Hughes, Vernon, Pawlett), so would prefer all out of contract players were released to give the greatest budget possible to ensure the above are all bench-warmers at best. Link to comment
vanderark14 Posted April 8, 2013 Share Posted April 8, 2013 Roberto, I don't see anything to back up your summation that Magennis is good in his natural position. Bripod, would you not prefer strikers whose remit wasn't just to be some use, for the last 10 minutes of a game when defenders are tiring? Even then I have seen him cause problems, get in to a good position, and then do something woeful. Motherwell, Celtic. Came on changed the game at Motherwell and rescued a point. Celtic, was brilliant and troubled Celtic the whole game with his pace and direct play. Deployed correctly, he's good in his proper position. Anyone with eyes could see that in these 2 games they've seen enough to know he can do a job. But hey, lets get rid and have no players coming in...the Aiberdeen fan mentality. don't think anyone was advocating this Link to comment
Recommended Posts
Create an account or sign in to comment
You need to be a member in order to leave a comment
Create an account
Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!
Register a new accountSign in
Already have an account? Sign in here.
Sign In Now