ChutneyLove Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I know MT has probably asked this before, but can't be arsed looking through one of his DIY threads. I am going to put a light up in my loft (prior to flooring it this weekend). I want to put a switch up there as well. I have downlighters throughout the house with individual transformers. The downlighters also have sockets beside them and each individual one is plugged into a socket. Would it be reasonable to put a 2-way on to one of the existing sockets and from there run a cable to a switch, then on to the light fitting? I understand I would then have to switch the lights on downstairs before I could put my switch on upstairs, but I could live with that. Ideally I would like to have a twin switch downstairs, one of which would turn the light on in the loft - how difficult would this be to do? Before anyone suggests getting a sparky in - I won't. Not touching mains, so no need. I can also get all the stuff for free because I'll chore it from my work. Link to comment
Henry Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 [bltuo] get smoe Moneky into do it, tehy cost lkie a fvier a hour, and go to teh pub isntead [/bltuo] 9 Link to comment
The Boofon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No idea. However I want to add a socket to my bedroom so I can connect some lights that come on when you open the wardrobe ( not the one I like hiding in) so will pay attention to the answer you get as it sounds a similar type of job. Link to comment
tup Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Fuck knows Chutney min, I never get involved in DIY, I usually go in for GSOCTDIFY. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 oh harcus never let anyone tell you your spelling gags arent funny good to see your mates boofon and tup +1d that comedy classic of yours 1 Link to comment
tup Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I never touched it you dyslexical monkey. But thanks for reminding me. It's now +3. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Neither did I. It's + 5 now. Link to comment
dervish Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Not a sparky but you can legitimately (according to part p) take a spur off the ring main in that case you wouldn't need to take it off one of the existing transformers (is a piece of piss and there will be some kicking around up there anyways). Could do worse than put a spotlight with a PIR sensor on it if you only use it infrequently (it'll work automatically). Dunno the size of your loft though maybe a switch on the loft hatch would be better. The problems with coming off an existing transformer is the switching thing for a start (obviously they'd be on when they didn't need to be) but also loading on the transformer that's there too. If you did choose to wire in a new switch is can be a cunt getting the wires to where they need to be (i.e. down walls). Link to comment
weemackie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I know MT has probably asked this before, but can't be arsed looking through one of his DIY threads. I am going to put a light up in my loft (prior to flooring it this weekend). I want to put a switch up there as well. I have downlighters throughout the house with individual transformers. The downlighters also have sockets beside them and each individual one is plugged into a socket. Would it be reasonable to put a 2-way on to one of the existing sockets and from there run a cable to a switch, then on to the light fitting? I understand I would then have to switch the lights on downstairs before I could put my switch on upstairs, but I could live with that. Ideally I would like to have a twin switch downstairs, one of which would turn the light on in the loft - how difficult would this be to do? Before anyone suggests getting a sparky in - I won't. Not touching mains, so no need. I can also get all the stuff for free because I'll chore it from my work. It'll be a caker. Do it yersel It might nae be following regulations but it's better than paying for a sparky Link to comment
weemackie Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I know MT has probably asked this before, but can't be arsed looking through one of his DIY threads. I am going to put a light up in my loft (prior to flooring it this weekend). I want to put a switch up there as well. I have downlighters throughout the house with individual transformers. The downlighters also have sockets beside them and each individual one is plugged into a socket. Would it be reasonable to put a 2-way on to one of the existing sockets and from there run a cable to a switch, then on to the light fitting? I understand I would then have to switch the lights on downstairs before I could put my switch on upstairs, but I could live with that. Ideally I would like to have a twin switch downstairs, one of which would turn the light on in the loft - how difficult would this be to do? Before anyone suggests getting a sparky in - I won't. Not touching mains, so no need. I can also get all the stuff for free because I'll chore it from my work. It'll be a caker. Do it yersel It might nae be following regulations but it's better than paying for a sparky Link to comment
dervish Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Change your output from 240v to 440v and introduce a soft start - Star Delta will suffice. Use Hawke exe bonded glands to give a watertight /explosion proof seal. These can be used in Zone 1 or 2 and are Atex compliant. Remember and and let the compound set for at least 24 hours to get that almost resinated finish. You'd get a job at my work with that. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 [bltuo] [/bltuo]You always spell it like that you pathetic inbred mother login faggot Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I'd give it a bash, is tough getting behind the walls though, the dervish idea of a pir sensor sounds the best plan, if you've any cables up there already it should be easy enough, if you don't I'd try and run something up the back of a cupboard into the eves. Straight plug to light would save the hassle of breaking into any switches. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 I think I'm going to run off the existing downstairs switch. Make it a doubler, running the cable up alongside the existing one. All the way up the eves and to the light fitting. I'll turn off all the power before I start fucking about with it, so there's little chance of a burnt Chutney. My uncle Harry was electrocuted. He was a sparky in Canada, he wasn't on death row or anything. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 No need to turn your power off, chore a screwdriver with a bulb in it and just turn your upstairs lights off. You could save yourself a lot of hassle by nicking a big torch. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 My switch for my loft is in the loft, fucking always forget it, away to put the loft ladder away and see the light is still on, it's a fecker. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 18, 2013 Author Share Posted April 18, 2013 Don't worry dayts, all those things have been procured a long time ago. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 Don't worry dayts, all those things have been procured a long time ago. Hahaha, nae worries mate, I spend a small fortune in yer shop we may have to start doing business, Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 18, 2013 Share Posted April 18, 2013 I wheel my old man in on a Wednesday to get pensioner discount, he thinks he's going on a day oot to the beach. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 19, 2013 Author Share Posted April 19, 2013 I used to go to hardware shops just for a browse too. I used to spend hours in there. They are even better when they're closed. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Fitted the light earlier. That's a loft light fitted and the fridge / freezer plumbed-in, both in the last week. Saved a bit of money not getting tradesmen in. Need to floor the loft now, but have to "purchase" a rip-snorter first. The flooring sheets up there are 3.6 x 1.2s, going to get a bit heavy. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Fitted the light earlier. That's a loft light fitted and the fridge / freezer plumbed-in, both in the last week. Saved a bit of money not getting tradesmen in. Need to floor the loft now, but have to "purchase" a rip-snorter first. The flooring sheets up there are 3.6 x 1.2s, going to get a bit heavy. To be honest I thought you be deid by now, coming to the hat for electricity advice is never going to be a good call. Looking forward to barbecue season now, we'll kill or maim someone yet. For loft flooring you're going to have to knock out the security cameras and get a mate with a van, stealing a nail gun goes without saying. Best of luck. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Mine if you don't get a corgi registered man in to fit your cooker your car insurance will be invalid. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Already got the flooring sheets - they've been up there since the place was built. Lazy fucker of a builder just didn't lay them. All double joisted, I just need to cut and screw down. Just lifting them about up there is going to be a bit of a shitty job. Going to leave it for this weekend - going to get a rip snorter through the week and I'll be all set for next Friday or Saturday. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Already got the flooring sheets - they've been up there since the place was built. Lazy fucker of a builder just didn't lay them. All double joisted, I just need to cut and screw down. Just lifting them about up there is going to be a bit of a shitty job. Going to leave it for this weekend - going to get a rip snorter through the week and I'll be all set for next Friday or Saturday. I've got a great mitre saw you could borrow, probably wouldn't cut long enough though. Jig saw would take forever. Love that saw, it's fucking brutal, don't really need it but bought it cause it looked mental, when I have a barbie/fire pit thing going on I cut up everything that looks flammable. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 Battery powered ripper is the way to go, the bloke who did my doors had one, great bit of kit. On my shopping list. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted April 20, 2013 Author Share Posted April 20, 2013 Yip, battery powered with spare, charged batteries are the way ahead. I wish I'd thought of that when I got all my power tools. Years ago I used to have all DeWalt stuff. Now I've got a mix-match of Bosch, Black & Decker, Ryobi and DeWalt. I think I might get one of those multi-tools as well. I'm laying a floor in the next couple of months, will be good for the fiddly bits. Floor is eighty square meters on top of tiles, going to be an ace weekend doing that. Link to comment
daytripping Posted April 20, 2013 Share Posted April 20, 2013 I don't mind doing floors, once the first row is down you can throw it all down pretty quickly, last row always the worst unless you land lucky a can fit a full size plank in. Proper tools and knee pads, job done. Link to comment
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