ericblack4boss Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 for me it has to be Alex Miller, what did he have to show for his time in charge we had vast sums squandered othe like of Pepper, we had the most negative tactics we have ever seen and worst of all the the deal involving Winters / dodds and £750,000 must be the icing on the ckae surely so for me it's Miller that edges it ahead of McGhee and Porterfield. Link to comment
daytripping Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Agree with the OP, Alex Miller, huge budget, football that was so negative it made your eyes bleed. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Jimmy Calderwood.much as it galls me to say it i'm afraid i can't put him in the worst category, however if there was a vote for the most unprofessional, talking shite, permatanned, hun loving cunt, manger sacked for unknown reason category then the fucking oaf would walk it. 1 Link to comment
Stoney Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Alex miller, By a mile. Calderwood wasnt a bad manager, the job just became too big for him. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Mark McGheein MM defence, he hasd to deal with the cancerous cunts left behind by that cunt calderwood 2 Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 6, 2013 Author Share Posted July 6, 2013 Alex miller, By a mile. Calderwood wasnt a bad manager, the job just became too big for him.Bad enough for no chairman to want in charge of thier team. Link to comment
Frank Butcher Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Alex Miller what a miserable depressing cunt he was. Would rather spend a fortnight in Syria that have the misfortune of watching one of that knob's Aberdeen teams again. 1 Link to comment
Jocky Balboa Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 In terms of influence, Calderwood. No, he wasn't the worst technically, but his legacy is that he has created a generation of young fans (who have never known a good AFC team, far less a successful one) that laud "Top 6" and/or 4-goal defeats in Cup Finals as "success". 1 2 Link to comment
Stoney Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Bad enough for no chairman to want in charge of thier team.Think we exposed his weaknesses Link to comment
Tord31 Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Mark McGhee - felt his heart wasnt in it from early doors and was just going thru the motions Link to comment
tutankamun Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Mark McGhee - felt his heart wasnt in it from early doors and was just going thru the motionsMaybe, but the chairman never really backed him either. For that reason I wouldn't say he was the worst. Link to comment
Dubford don Posted July 6, 2013 Share Posted July 6, 2013 Alex miller,the damage he did in one year was unreal. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 It's a tough question, because we've had so many ridiculously bad managers who each, in their own particular way, were absolutely, horrifying, unredeemably fucking terrible. Porterfield.. a man who upon arriving at Pittodrie stated that there was no way a club like Aberdeen could compete with the Old Firm, this hard on the heels of a period that had seen Aberdeen destroy not only the Old Firm but Europe's Elite. He proceeded to sign lower league English shite, and seemed terrified of sending players into the opposition box. Utter shambles of a manager. Alex Smith... won trophies, had us playing beautiful football, made it seem like the glory days might linger for a bit longer. Then Jocky Scott left and it became apparent that Alex Smith was, in fact, dreadful. And a bottle merchant. And that day at Ibrox.... and where's my fucking drink. Willie Miller... to begin with it looked like he might do quite well. Then, after he finished 2nd in the league to Rangers, and runner up in the Scottish Cup to Rangers, and runner up in the League Cup to Rangers... well,he went a bit mental. Ripped the team apart, almost saw us relegated. Roy Aitken... you can just fuck off. Spent trillions on some of the worst players to walk through the fucking doors of Pittodrie. Almost certainly an agent working for the Old Firm more than he was our manager. Alex Miller... the most baffling appointment in the history of our club, in my opinion. A man with no real CV, and was allowed to be assistant manager at Scotland when he should have been at Aberdeen doing the fucking job we were paying him to do. It would be like appointing Bomber Broon manager today, but at least with Broon you could fucking laugh sarcastically. Ebbe Skovdahl... never understood the love-in with the chain-smoking Dane. Paid insane wages to mediocre players, no consistency in our results, slowly got worse until he finally said, "Yeah, I give in." and fucked off with nary a thank you very fucking much. Routinely saw us shipping 6 or 7 goals to the Old Firm, didn't really seem like he gave a fuck about any of that. Just... fucking... awful. Steve Paterson... alcoholic gambling addict who looked like a reject from the Bay City Rollers. Apparently the club knew of his problems and hired him anyway, because, well, fuck it, why not.... which shows you the professional attitude of Aberdeen Football Club. Drunk himself into a coma, left in the boot of a car "In order to preserve his dignity". Yup. Jimmy Calderwood... the least unsuccessful of our recent managers (which is an accolade along the lines of Least Severe Venereal Disease), although serious hidings, humiliating cup defeats, a culture of drinking, and a team absolutely chock-full of wage-stealing shitbags is his legacy. Mark McGhee... well, at least he was honest. In his first interview he basically said, "Do I fuck want to be here, but Celtic didn't want me so you cunts will have to do until Real comes knocking." Zero preparation for Europe meant we were gutted by a team who looked to be no better than St Mirren. Alienating the entire squad meant 9-0 at Parkhead, a result he never apologised for, and in fact he seemed bewildered that the fans cared, and lied about being spat on... relegation seemed an inevitability, and the board seemed like it didn't give a fuck either. Craig Brown. 9th, 9th, and 9th. Football so inept and boring that during one game on RedTV I started shooting myself in the legs and arms with the loon's BB Gun because I had lost interest in the game and found self-harming to be preferable to watching a Craig Brown team 'playing football'. Only the drink kept me going, and even then it very nearly didn't. All shite in their own inept way, singling one out as the MOST piss poor excuse for a manager would be unfair. I have every confidence that McInnes will stamp his own particular brand of utter incompetence on this club as it continues it's (almost) uninterrupted descent into the Ninth Circle of Footballing Hell. 7 Link to comment
zander Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Mark McGhee for me.Sheer embarrassment he put this club through was shown when people saw Broon as an improvement and accepted that mediocrity that came with him.9-0 to Celtic will never be forgotten along with what he said the day he walked back through the doors at Pittodrie. 1 Link to comment
Dal Riata Don Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Admin: Is there no way to make this topic a poll? It would make the results a lot clearer. Alex Miller for me b.t.w. MM at #2. Pele & Ebbe had decent track records coming in to the job so there was the disappointment connected with that but AM & MM were just pure shite. Link to comment
a don in oz Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Would not have believed this 5 years ago but Alex Miller isn't the worst for me with McGhee thumping him into second place for that accolade. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 McGhee/A. Miller can share this 'accolade'. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 Would not have believed this 5 years ago but Alex Miller isn't the worst for me with McGhee thumping him into second place for that accolade.holy fuck chief i am afraid i have to disagree Miller was allowed to spend on the likes of pepper, Hignett, those two alone would have been more than McGhees entire budget during his reign! I have some slight sympathy with McGhee , because when he cane he was promised cash then the Setanta thing went titis up his entire budget gone in one fell swoop, Link to comment
Dynamo Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Different times. And was Hignett not sold for more than he was bought for? Link to comment
Bobbyskitter Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 McGhee was without a doubt a shambles of a manager and his time at the club was nothing short of a disaster, but its a bit unfair to lay all the blame at his feet. The board fucked him over by not giving him any scope to improve Calderwoods squad by removing the bad eggs and getting some decent footballers in, the players fucked him over by being a bunch of unprofessional huffy children who threw their toys out the pram when he tried to instill some professionalism at the club, even the media gave him a far harder time than he deserved as they seemed to have some misplaced loyalty to their friendly fat oaf that McGhee replaced. I'll be the first to admit that McGhee didn't help himself at times, like for instance when he first signed for us and was being interviewed, when he got asked about the Celtic job he should have replied that this interview was about Aberdeen so lets keep it on topic. But for me all he did wrong was be honest, the Celtic job is a bigger job than managing us, who wouldn't see managing a club with a budget of millions and champions league football nearly every year as more preferable to managing a team where your midfield generals are Mark Kerr and The Ghost and your strikers consist of Lee Miller and the mackster? I can also remember an interview, I think it was after the first European tie when asked if he thought trying to play 4-4-3 would work as well at Aberdeen as it had at Motherwell, he replied that it probably wouldn't work because he had a better squad at Motherwell. Once again he was only being honest, we may have finished above Motherwell the year before but if you looked at Motherwells stats once McGhee had a fully fit first team (around about the last third of the season I think) they had the best win percentage of the SPL outside the Old Firm. But to make a comment like that in the press is only going to achieve one thing, an even more disgruntled squad who are less likely to give you 100%. His reaction after the shambolic 9-0 defeat to Celtic should have got him the sack regardless of anything else but the majority of the squad should also have been shown the door after that result, yet we still have the same keeper between the sticks now, who on that day didn't make a single save, did Clangers apologies for what has to be the most embarrassing afternoons work any keeper has ever put in? Not that I can remember, and their in lies the problem with the squad that McGhee had to work with, not nearly enough of them actually gave a fuck about playing for Aberdeen, even the ones McGhee had brought in himself. So I'd say McGhee is probably a very close second to Alex Miller for my choice of worst manager in my memory, but you really would struggle to get a fag paper between them. 3 Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 looking at who Miller signed HIGNETT ( free then sold for a £600,000 profit. DEREK WHYTE ( £100,000)Nigel Pepper. £300,000) Mark Perry. Andy Dow, (£50,000) Stuart McCaffrey , Andy Mayer (£200,000 for a man who had one leg longer than the other and no one noticed!) Jim Hamilton (200, 000) Michael O' Neill on loan ( a wee bit disapointed had he been fit he would have been a good addition) and the infamous Robbie Winters (£500,000 + Dodds) IF McGhee had had those funds then he would have signed better surely to fuck. McGhees signingsIfill, Hartley Osborne, Vernon, Vudjanovic Grassi Velicka for me each one a better player than all but Hignett of Millers signings. thats nigh on £1.5 million spent on fucking dross, plus lets not forget it was Miller that signed Darren Mackie just his type of striker ( ie doesnt score goals) Link to comment
Ingolfsson Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Different times. And was Hignett not sold for more than he was bought for? Aye. Got him on a free, paid big wages (8k or so) but when he fucked off prematurely after a couple of months to Barnsley we did rake in 700k. It was a shame that we only got a dozen games out of him, class player, but this was nowhere near our worst piece of transfer business. Link to comment
Rubinho Escocia Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 Roy Aitken for me. Whilst he won a cup, he spent millions on dross and left us in a financial mess which I don't think we've ever fully recovered from. My memory of Alex Miller was being disgusted when he was appointed but he had Aitken's dross playing for a bit, before selling them all on the cheap and replacing them with some terrible players. The combination of those 2 managers were a disaster so they go 1 and 2 worst managers on the list for me as a consequence. McGhee is a very close 3rd mind you. The one thing about McGhee is I sensed he knew what the problems were but just did not have the skills to sort them. For example I'm sure he realised Langfield was a serious problem but from an ability and personality perspective. However, the guy Stuart Nelson was shocking and he had to stick with Langfield more than he's have wanted. In the end Langfield won as he played in McGhee's last game and I'm pretty sure he deliberately let in 2 goals early one to ensure McGhee got the boot - a performance which should have also seen Langfield sacked in my eyes. Sadly, Kelt's post sums up how much competition there is for this dubious accolade although I'll confess to being one of the fans that liked Ebbe! Link to comment
Frank Butcher Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 While not trying to defend Miller's signings We cant really compare the budget he had with McGhee's, as at that time Motherwell where paying the likes of Spencer and Goram £5k a week, Killie had that French guy Cocard or whatever he was called on the same or more, Sauzee at hibs etc The whole league was on some sort of financial suicide mission, as we tried to keep up with the EPL Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 what the SPL in encouraging greed shocker? Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted July 7, 2013 Author Share Posted July 7, 2013 for me WM is off the hook lets not forget at one stage he had a forward line of Shearer, Paatelainen, Booth and Jess that was some attack backed up with Mason, and Bett in midfield at least we were an attacking side . 1 Link to comment
tup Posted July 7, 2013 Share Posted July 7, 2013 McGhee, by a huge margin. He was a disgrace and disaster in equal measure. Link to comment
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