HH_is_back Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not very happy with the referee last night. Zola never really did anything wrong yet was walking a red card tightrope after getting booked for a 50/50 despite not having his studs showing. I can guarantee that if Samaras or Stokes had done that the cry would have been "he's entitled to go for that." Teams put up with "robust" styles of play for years from Hately and Sutton charging into defenders, backing into defenders, flying elbows, etc with no protection from referee's yet as soon as Aberdeen put a big man in a red shirt he's treated like the antichrist. Poor show even although it did pave the way for the Vernon show. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 I agree. For his booking did he even catch the goalie? The ball was there to be won but I did think it was a foul given the way he went in but the keeper made a meal of it. The ball he went in for and actually won was ridiculous. Referee was dying to send him off. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 It was and always has been this way. Referees give non OF players they perceive to be bigger or a handful a hard time; we've had a few suffer through the years. It seems even more prominent if they happen to be a) English or b) Black or worse still c) both. All part of the corruption and parochialism that is endemic within Scottish football. Link to comment
davieb Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Sorry lads, but the keeper had the ball way before Zola slid in, the ball just a wee but too much pace. The fact that he slid in with his studs up didn't help his case. It was a clear yellow card, and the TV replay showed that. Mind you, I'd rather he went in for the 50/50 that chickened out. Link to comment
HH_is_back Posted September 26, 2013 Author Share Posted September 26, 2013 His studs were not up, even Doddsy and Houston were saying his studs were not showing, if they had been it would have been a red. Link to comment
davieb Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 His studs were not up, even Doddsy and Houston were saying his studs were not showing, if they had been it would have been a red. I don't take anything Billy "EBT" Dodds and Houston say too seriously, and it looked quite clear on the TV to me. It was a 50/50 ball and he slid in on the deck with his boot up, caught the ball and the keeper. Ball was there to be won if he had been quicker, and would not have been a red unless he was extremely late, but it was a foul. Link to comment
Sandafc Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 No real argument with the one he was booked for, went for the ball but was a touch late. It was the decisions he got penalised for after that, that annoyed me. The Falkirk fans and players tried to get him sent off and Zola was penalised at least 3 times when he clearly won the ball. Correct decision made by McInnes as Ref was gagging to send him off. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not very happy with the referee last night. Zola never really did anything wrong yet was walking a red card tightrope after getting booked for a 50/50 despite not having his studs showing. I can guarantee that if Samaras or Stokes had done that the cry would have been "he's entitled to go for that." Teams put up with "robust" styles of play for years from Hately and Sutton charging into defenders, backing into defenders, flying elbows, etc with no protection from referee's yet as soon as Aberdeen put a big man in a red shirt he's treated like the antichrist. Poor show even although it did pave the way for the Vernon show. I agree with you that the ref was on a red card mission when it came to Zola but his challenge on the keeper was a yellow. Saying that, his challenge when both players had their feet up and he won the ball was not a foulHis challenge for a header when the defender got in front of him was not a foulHis last 'foul' wasnt even a fucking touch on the player or ball, just a slip by him on the astro The ref was a fucking joke when it came to him last night If it wasnt for McInnes hooking him he would've been red carded. The Falkirk players were bossing the ref and reffing the game at that point. Every little moan they made about Zola was met by the ref having a word with Zola even if he didnt actually see what it was they were crying about. Its times like that last night when we need Anderson on the pitch as captain. Reynolds did a good job last night driving the players forward and organising the defence but unless I missed it on the googlebox he didnt have that quiet word in the refs ear that Anderson would normally have asking him how much longer he was going to allow a 19 year old kid in white to ref the game for him. Link to comment
Stoney Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unless the keeper has the ball secured then its fair game as far as im concerned. Just because the keeper touches the ball doesnt mean a striker cant make a challenge. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 The Ref is a Racist.No other explanation. Link to comment
davieb Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unless the keeper has the ball secured then its fair game as far as im concerned. Just because the keeper touches the ball doesnt mean a striker cant make a challenge. Keeper had the ball in his hands unfortunately, but it was on the ground, but Zola's momentum carried him into the body of the keeper. It looked worse than it was, but it was a foul and a yellow card is almost a given in those circumstances. Link to comment
Stoney Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Never had the ball in control though, I'd have been dissapointed with a player who didnt make that challenge. Link to comment
spamspamspam Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Never had the ball in control though, I'd have been dissapointed with a player who didnt make that challenge. Maybe 10 years ago stoney but these days you touch the keeper and its a foul, you touch him harder than you'd rub a sexy womans clit and its a yellow. Zola definitely went in harder with that tackle than I would finger Cheryl Coles clit. Link to comment
Site Sponsor RTYD Posted September 26, 2013 Site Sponsor Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not very happy with the referee last night. Zola never really did anything wrong yet was walking a red card tightrope after getting booked for a 50/50 despite not having his studs showing. I can guarantee that if Samaras or Stokes had done that the cry would have been "he's entitled to go for that." Teams put up with "robust" styles of play for years from Hately and Sutton charging into defenders, backing into defenders, flying elbows, etc with no protection from referee's yet as soon as Aberdeen put a big man in a red shirt he's treated like the antichrist. Poor show even although it did pave the way for the Vernon show. 100% agree. Shocking from the referee but no surprise there. Link to comment
Sandafc Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 youre a god damn idiot the ref was dying to send him off? if he was, he would have sent him off for the challenge on their keeper, or the high foot...could easiyl have got a booking for that one if he was DYING to send him off, he would have The high foot you mention was where both players foot was high and Zola clearly won the ball! Neither challenge you mention was a red card offence in fact as i've mentioned, one wasn't even a foul! Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 youre a god damn idiot the ref was dying to send him off? if he was, he would have sent him off for the challenge on their keeper, or the high foot...could easiyl have got a booking for that one if he was DYING to send him off, he would have The one that shouldn't even have been a foul aye? Link to comment
zander Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Good decision from McInnes to take him off no messing about. Link to comment
OddJob Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Hartson used to get away with a lot worse than that As mentioned the 'supposed' foul when Zola went for the high ball with the player was a fucking shocker of a decision. Link to comment
OddJob Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 how though? his foot WAS raised and studs WERE showing? yeah but so was the other guy. If that was the case then it should have been a bounce ball, cause it certainly wasn't a foul Link to comment
minijc Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 If Zola didn't go for the ball against the keeper then he wouldn't be a footballer, every player would go for it, joke decision, as for the 'high feet' absolute dirt, ball wasn't above the players waist. MT had it been Lee Miller you'd be up in arms about how he is being picked on. Link to comment
Foster14 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Zola got the ball and the Falkirk player kicked Zola's foot. Ergo, both players had high feet, or neither did, and one got the ball, and the other kicked him. Link to comment
K-9 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Unless the keeper has the ball secured then its fair game as far as im concerned. Just because the keeper touches the ball doesnt mean a striker cant make a challenge. Keeper never had the ball at any time then. But always going to be a foul and probably a yellow. Link to comment
K-9 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 how though? his foot WAS raised and studs WERE showing?He won the ball there - if anything should have been foul other way as their player kicked Zola as he won ball. Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 To be honest, I'm over it already. Wasn't difficult to get through. Moving on. Fresh start. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Not very happy with the referee last night. Zola never really did anything wrong yet was walking a red card tightrope after getting booked for a 50/50 despite not having his studs showing. I can guarantee that if Samaras or Stokes had done that the cry would have been "he's entitled to go for that." Teams put up with "robust" styles of play for years from Hately and Sutton charging into defenders, backing into defenders, flying elbows, etc with no protection from referee's yet as soon as Aberdeen put a big man in a red shirt he's treated like the antichrist. Poor show even although it did pave the way for the Vernon show. I think it was a bit of both... The ref clearly had a hard on for sending Zola off, but then again Zola went in on a keeper in the way that only Celtic and the old Rangers are/were allowed to. That'll get you a booking. He then challenged a few moments later with his studs showing, which again will get non Celtic/the old Rangers players carded... I actually thought Zola was going to be off when I saw that challenge go in. So the ref was a wank, but Zola's a donkey. I'd be happy if Zola never showed up in a red strip again... absolute carthorse. Link to comment
elephantstone78 Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 so in one breath you say the ref was dying to send him off in your second stinking breath, you say you yourself thought he WAS going to be sent off... only, he wasnt...so kinda renders the first thing you said, as something only a foosty-smelling tramp would say, eh?what evidence do you have to support this claim MT? Link to comment
Ke1t Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 so in one breath you say the ref was dying to send him off That's right. in your second stinking breath, you say you yourself thought he WAS going to be sent off... I'll have to pull you up on the ;stinking breath' thing, first of all. I have a very comprehensive dental and health plan, so my teeth are in pretty good condition. Your teeth, however, appear to be the result of an intensive Curly Wurly and Coca Cola bender... so if anyone has 'stinking breath' my wart-heided friend, it's yourself ...meanwhile, back on topic, yes, I thought he was going to be sent off. only, he wasnt...so kinda renders the first thing you said, as something only a foosty-smelling tramp would say, eh? No, because thinking something in no way ensures said event will occur. I'd advise a colourful book on basic logic, preferably one with lots of bright and colourful pictures in order to retain your attention, if that particular 'mind-bender' is, as is apparent, beyond your ability to figure out As for 'foosty-smelling', I would think anyone driving around in an ancient, creaking Ford Capri is closer to the 'Tramp' end of the social spectrum than someone like myself. Much, much, much, much closer, my manky, weegian friend Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted September 26, 2013 Share Posted September 26, 2013 Zola deserved his booking.Yes I'm glad he's going in 100% for these balls but he was second to a 50/50 & that's the truth of it.Had he been first & the keeper caught him, it would have been a pen & likely a red card for the keeper.His Yellow is not worth debating but yes afterwards the ref was a complete cock & was desperate to red card him but the Falkirk kids were basically just wee moaning cunts & looked like what they are beside him. Kids McInnes had to take him off & I'm glad he did & as it turned out, it was good that he did. People are saying that Zola is great now but I'm still far from convinced. Yes he's miles better than his first few games but being honest, he couldn't possibly have gotten worse that that. He's shocking in the air but looks ok to feet (sometimes) but I still see him as a bit of a big cart horse & his size (admittedly) helps that view.I hope he still has a lot of improvement to come cos if that's his best, then it's not enough for me. He's a handful yes but mostly cos of his size rather than ability (so far) We Know what Vernon's like when he's on form (from his previous) but we do not know what Zola is like at his best yet. Vernon is now back in his striker boots so he has to be the starter until he goes off the boil again imo. Would much rather Zola now than an off form Vernon starting but an on form Vernon is ten times the Zola of now. It's up to Zola to get the starting slot off Vernon now via the subs bench cos Vernon has earned his start for sure & it could be damaging to neglect him after him just finding the net again. Imagine having the Vernon of a couple of seasons ago in the same side as last season's McGinn? Link to comment
Henry Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 first of all, its not a wart, its a mole a mole which i am actually concerned about and having an appointment with the dermatologist for first week in october so, aye cheers, nice thing to try and laugh about eh? Link to comment
Dynamo Posted September 27, 2013 Share Posted September 27, 2013 laughing at cancer now? my list for the daily record gets larger by the day, much like the mole, incidentally You should set up a #weareallmillertime facebook group. Link to comment
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