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I notice that flowers don't seem to be enough for some maudlin numpties these days. Football tops are littering the countryside where somebody has died in a car accident. The thing is though I don't think I have ever seen any other top than Rangers (oldco) and Celtic tops. Is it just old firm fans that do this or is it just them that feels the need to let everyone know what team the deceased supported?

Perhaps it's only old firm fans that are careless drivers or maybe someone is deliberately killing them.

If only they didn't breed so quickly.

 

Has anyone seen other football tops slowly rotting at the side of the road?

 

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Get it in the Central belt quite a lot, hence Glasvegas's song, Flowers and football tops, its a fair point that its only ever Old Firm stuff you see, I've never seen it when its a non-OF team. Was a young guy murdered in Springburn a couple of years back and the whole flyover of the Dual Carriageway was tricolours and Celtic tops.

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This thread is a bit of a coincidence, I was speaking about this about an hour ago to someone at work as we were talking about the Irish and how awful they are as people when it comes to revelling in misery.

 

Fatjim, your not a 23 year old attractive female are you?

 

Not 23 or female but quite strangely attractive if your into that sort of thing :)

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In post-Christian britain, these roadside 'shrines' of football tops + flowers etc is a manifestation of attempts to fulfill the human need which is unfulfilled for many in the absence of faith. Its trying to create a space for peoople to gather and reflect, a space decorated with items or symbols of love (in this case, for the deceased).

 

I dont mind it, but the council should be quick to remove the flowers when they die and go all scabby.

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Faith is for the weak.

 

 

Comfort eating is for the weak.

 

 

I think this is true.

 

Meh, I dont know enough about your figure to criticise (I daresay its not pretty though).

 

Faith is an amazing enlightenment and serenity.

 

That people - who ostensibly claim not to care for it - feel compelled to somehow attack it, only goes to show its inherent substance.

 

For example, you can only subvert that which is important, or mock that which has dignity, or deny that which is fundamentally true.

 

(Btw We should probably take care not to argue about religion too much, lest we bore the others lol.)

 

:)

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Disregarding my own advice, I thought of a question:

 

Why is (do you think) faith 'for the weak'?

 

In some sense, it would be a great liberation if there were genuinely no rules in life, or no accountability for it. But there are rules, and there is accountability - surely to recognise this and so attempt (however badly) to live in this way is the more difficult choice, and therefore not 'weak'.

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Comfort eating is for the weak.

 

 

Meh, I dont know enough about your figure to criticise (I daresay its not pretty though).

 

Faith is an amazing enlightenment and serenity.

 

That people - who ostensibly claim not to care for it - feel compelled to somehow attack it, only goes to show its inherent substance.

 

For example, you can only subvert that which is important, or mock that which has dignity, or deny that which is fundamentally true.

 

(Btw We should probably take care not to argue about religion too much, lest we bore the others lol.)

 

:)

 

You don't know anything about my figure either. All you have is a username that has no bearing on my weight. My name isn't even Jim.

 

If you choose to believe in something with zero evidence simply because of faith then that is a weakness. You need to fill a gap in your understanding with imaginary beings all based on the writings of bronze age goat herders. The weakness is the inability to face life without that imaginary friend and all the baggage that comes with it.

 

The rules you speak of are man made.

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It is littering. People who do it should be identified by their scrawled messages and fined appropriately.

 

Additionally, if I did hit a tree sideways at 59 mph (notice I'm under the speed limit folks) and am killed on the spot - the last place I would like a shrine was the tree that knocked consciousness from my brain forever.

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Comfort eating is for the weak.

 

 

1. Meh, I dont know enough about your figure to criticise (I daresay its not pretty though).

 

2. Faith is an amazing enlightenment and serenity.

 

3. That people - who ostensibly claim not to care for it - feel compelled to somehow attack it, only goes to show its inherent substance.

 

4. For example, you can only subvert that which is important, or mock that which has dignity, or deny that which is fundamentally true.

 

(Btw We should probably take care not to argue about religion too much, lest we bore the others lol.)

 

:)

 

 

Disregarding my own advice, I thought of a question:

 

5. Why is (do you think) faith 'for the weak'?

 

In some sense, it would be a great liberation if there were genuinely no rules in life, or no accountability for it. But there are rules, and there is accountability - surely to recognise this and so attempt (however badly) to live in this way is the more difficult choice, and therefore not 'weak'.

 

1. Ad hominem, and thusly rejected as point of debate.

 

2. So is Yoga, alcohol, weed, sensory deprivation chambers, sleep, smoking (I'm told), and sex (if i remember correctly).

 

3. Debating the validity of religion is in no way attacking it. Having an opinion on its adherents is in no way attacking it. Holding a contrary position is not an attack. This is the victim mentality.

 

4. Demonstrably untrue.

 

5. Faith in a deity is in no way whatsoever a prerequisite for civilised behaviour. This is also an indesputable, demonstrable fact. So the implication that lack of belief in a deity equates to some kind of social depravity is an easily rejected notion.

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