National Service Bill

[cow]

Hi Cow here, as many of you will be aware a Bill introduced by Philip Hollobone, is being debated at Westminister. The gist is that all youngster 16-26 would be forced to serve one year National Service, paid at the minimum wage, including expenses. The second reading of the proposed Bill is due in the next few weeks so it will probably generate more news time.

 

 

Leaving this open to Sensible posters like Spam, Kelt. Excellent people like Rumpus, Derek. Terrible posters like Rocket and obvious trolls like DAYTS.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cow.

[Poodler]

poof

[dervish]

Maybe a survey would be better?

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G0ZZJXw4MTA

[The Boofon]

Good idea. Let the English bastards do it.

 

Scotland, being an independent country soon, probably won't bother with this.

[Bluto10]

Might make a man of wetbags like poodler; might help sumos like cheesepipes lose excess and might give unemployed bums like tup something to do.

 

Win win as far as I can see

[Poodler]

Might make a man of wetbags like poodler; might help sumos like cheesepipes lose excess and might give unemployed bums like tup something to do.

 

Win win as far as I can see

 

You can't see very far when you look down, chubby

[Bluto10]

On a serious note I'm time served and its the best thing I've ever done.

 

Should be mandatory for everyone.

[The Boofon]

On a serious note I'm time served and its the best thing I've ever done.

Should be mandatory for everyone.

How old are you?

 

National Service was abolished about 50 years ago min. Do you even know what the thread is about?

 

[Ke1t]

In peacetime the idea of enforced military training strikes me at the very least as unnecessary and at worst a gross infringement of civil liberties. The effective 12 month imprisonment of civilians against their will.

 

The only reason I can see the government doing something like this would be to reduce the official number of unemployed of working age... a pretty cynical ploy.

 

Britain has a volunteer army, and in time of peace that's exactly how it should be.

 

Anyone who wants to be locked up and yelled at by brainless, aggressive pricks for a year of their life should be allowed to sign up, just the way they do now.

 

At some point I think I want to buy up an Island and declare it an independent Anarchy.

 

There will be beer and (voluntary) slutties, but possibly no internet.

[Bluto10]

Right enough some of the folk on here spend so much time in front of a keyboard they'd make prime candidates for the useless Saturdays and Sundays dads army type "regiments"

[Poodler]

Right enough some of the folk on here spend so much time in front of a keyboard they'd make prime candidates for the useless Saturdays and Sundays dads army type "regiments"

 

 

Says the guy in the top 10 posters list...

[The Boofon]

In peacetime the idea of enforced military training strikes me at the very least as unnecessary and at worst a gross infringement of civil liberties. The effective 12 month imprisonment of civilians against their will.

 

The only reason I can see the government doing something like this would be to reduce the official number of unemployed of working age... a pretty cynical ploy.

 

Britain has a volunteer army, and in time of peace that's exactly how it should be.

 

Anyone who wants to be locked up and yelled at by brainless, aggressive pricks for a year of their life should be allowed to sign up, just the way they do now.

 

At some point I think I want to buy up an Island and declare it an independent Anarchy.

 

There will be beer and (voluntary) slutties, but possibly no internet.

I've seen your island plans. I don't believe there will be beer or slutties.

 

Anything that's forced upon someone cannot be good.

[The Boofon]

 

 

Says the guy in the top 10 posters list...

 

Get back in your box Bluto you fucking mutant.

[Bluto10]

 

 

Says the guy in the top 10 posters list...

Its quantity that counts poodles min my good man;nae quality

[RUL]

They can get to fuck

[Ke1t]

I've seen your island plans. I don't believe there will be beer or slutties.

 

Anything that's forced upon someone cannot be good.

You're confusing Kelt Island with Beer and Slutties Island.

 

You don't want to make that mistake when it comes to buying a ticket...

 

Print out this reminder slip, and when you go to the airport to buy passage just hand it over to avoid problems later.

 

[Dandyesque]

In peacetime the idea of enforced military training strikes me at the very least as unnecessary and at worst a gross infringement of civil liberties. The effective 12 month imprisonment of civilians against their will.

 

The only reason I can see the government doing something like this would be to reduce the official number of unemployed of working age... a pretty cynical ploy.

 

Britain has a volunteer army, and in time of peace that's exactly how it should be.

 

Anyone who wants to be locked up and yelled at by brainless, aggressive pricks for a year of their life should be allowed to sign up, just the way they do now.

 

 

Agreed.

 

Although the youth of today are a feckless lot, with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. I think that those that have managed 12 consecutive months of unemployment (outwith further education, health issues, etc) may well benefit from NS - provided it is used to teach skils

[Ke1t]

 

 

Agreed.

 

Although the youth of today are a feckless lot, with an overdeveloped sense of entitlement. I think that those that have managed 12 consecutive months of unemployment (outwith further education, health issues, etc) may well benefit from NS - provided it is used to teach skils

 

I'd have no real problem with military service being dished out in lieu of prison sentences for chavs.

 

If you're acting in an anti-social manner and you would be going to jail anyway then it's probably better to teach them discipline in the military than putting them in with hardened criminals and teaching them new criminally tricks.

 

Teach them how to strip an engine and they might get a mechanics job when they get out.

 

Of course they might just go around robbing engines out of people's cars instead.

[cow]

Any Idea where this would take place? There would be at least 1 million per year subjected to this. Would the burden be spread to local branches (numbers diminishing) or would we be sending then to a 'Super-centre' in the midlands?

[Bluto10]

Hi cow, bluto10 here.

 

Let's nae focus on the minutae let's just thrash out a simple yes-no.

 

From experience I say yes.

 

And you Cow?

[cow]

Hi cow, bluto10 here.

 

Let's nae focus on the minutae let's just thrash out a simple yes-no.

 

From experience I say yes.

 

And you Cow?

 

Hi Bluto10.

 

To this I voted against the motion fella.

 

 

Cow.

[Bluto10]

Hi Cow, bluto10 here again.

 

Can I ask from what well you draw on to reach such a decision?

[fine-n-dandy]

I vote yes because I'm too old to have to worry about it.

[zander]

Would that mean you would have to do national service under each of your usernames?

[cow]

Hi Cow, bluto10 here again.

 

Can I ask from what well you draw on to reach such a decision?

 

 

Hi Bluto10.

 

I don't understand your question. I think you are drunk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Cow.

[caledonia]

Do not think it would do kids any harm as they lack real discipline nowadays (i know i have 3 sons)

As long as it does not involve any front line stuff (that should always be a choice)

 

but between the ages of 16-26 so what happens to someone who has worked from 16 to 26 (10 years) do they have to do it and will their job be kept for them when they come out

 

maybe something regional where they do some training every other weekend would be better

[Foster14]

Sounds awful and totalitarian...

 

If woman are involved it could help our population problems as they'd be churning out kids 16-26 just to avoid it.

[StevieT1986]

Yes. And that's from experience. My time in the Navy did me the world of good and i'd recommend it to anyone.

 

Although in todays climate it could maybe work for people who aren't in further education and not working.

[dervish]

I'm certain the same mong parents who think it's against their kids "human rights" to bother to turn up to school will be for this. It also won't be open to corruption where Drs had out exemptions to the kids of their pals either.

 

Totes for it.

[reekie_dock]

I am also a War Vet and I believe this should be pushed through. I was a little cunt when i was 16 and after 5 years serving Queen and Country, I came out a better man. Far Better than most of you lot.

 

Too many Do gooders gan about freedom oh speach, civial libertys and all that nonsense. Get into forces dodge some bullets, rape and pillage some Middle Eastern Country do the Kids a world oh good.

 

We're British and we take what we want!!!!