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So in light of the Hivs relegation, is it inconceivable, niaeve, or cynical to think that donkeycaster, and co will now shit themselves and push through another, way forward for the game, looking at next term the championship sevco, hearts, hibs, will be a real scrap.

So remember during the rangers administration debacle, I said I would be watching the SPFL and SFA well I meant it, I'll be making it my fucking business to watch the slimy cunts.

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i definitely think there will be more discussions around changing to a 16 team top flight,

 

Can see the arguments now as Falkirk, Rangers, Hibs & Hearts should all be good enough for the Premiership and 16 teams with everyone playing each other 3 times would be alot more interesting that the current set up.

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Any form of reconstruction to accomodate the Huns as an easy way out for them given the predicted difficulty of next season's Championship wouldn't work anyway. TV companies and SPFL themselves will be waiting on the magic four (or at the very least, three) 'Old Firm' games per season: can only manage that with a 12 team league.

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I think they'll find that a majority of teams and fans have enjoyed this season more than any in recent years... If there's more fans attending Championship games next years there's no one else to blame bar the clubs and their management.... It isn't hard to believe that there will be a bigger average attendance in the Chumpionship next year. If they get rid of the play offs there will be a huge outrage !

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I'm just waiting for Doncaster to come out saying he has further negotiated a deal with BT/Sky and half the money will be going to the Championship next season.

 

A deal will surely arise to incorporate the Championship, though? Pretty sure both Sky and BT will be keen to show the four Edinburgh derbies next season.

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The Championship is going to be the league to watch next season. The additional interest in it might be seen to be more valuable than reconstruction just to get all 3 back up.

 

Looking at this season Its going to be a 4 way battle for 2 promotion slots. Hiv's, hunlite, hunjr, and Falkirk will all be looking to get up. I'd say it'll be Hearts and Falkirk coming up unless there are serious changes at hunlite starting with sally being shown the door and Hiv's really need to stick with Butcher and allow him to overhaul the whole club.

 

I'd much rather have a 16 or 18 team top league and looking at the Championship the only club I'd see struggling to hold their own if it was 18 now would be Dumbarton, the rest would be able to survive and probably thrive in a larger league system. That'll never happen though with the current chairmen and SPFL leadership, well, might now that senior clubs realise that their money isnt hurt too much by the loss of those 2 hunlite home games per season.

 

I'd love to see sally fail in his promotion bid, the panto that would unfold during and after that failed bid would be worth sally's weight in gold.

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i definitely think there will be more discussions around changing to a 16 team top flight,

 

Can see the arguments now as Falkirk, Rangers, Hibs & Hearts should all be good enough for the Premiership and 16 teams with everyone playing each other 3 times would be alot more interesting that the current set up.

Hibs and Hearts are both not good enough for the Premiership and were both relegated because of this. More so Hibs as they were the worst team in the league, Hearts may have survived had they not got 15 points docked and would have played Hamilton in the play offs.

 

Falkirk weren't even good enough for the Championship, so they definitely aren't good enough for the Premiership.

 

Rangers were good enough, however they don't exist anymore. I think you might be talking about The Rangers, a 1st Division team who will be playing in the Championship for the first time ever...they aren't good enough either.

 

I do agree with the playing each other less would be a better solution to the way it's set up now though.

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Personally feel that, as for the way we have our leagues set up on the whole, we've seen the benefit of the split this season with the introduction of the play-off to compliment it. It makes you wonder why we waited so long to introduce it.

 

I think a 12 team league is fine, and I wouldn't mind seeing the second tier become a league of 12 too. I think we could add more clarity to our system by doing that, meaning we could have a straight two-legged play off between 11th in tier 1 and 2nd in tier 2, with the top six in tier 2 becoming, in effect, a round of play-off style fixtures to determine first and second.

 

I'd look to merge the lower two tiers of the SPFL into a 16 team league, obviously meaning that the system as a whole would then only accomodate 40 teams rather than 42. Each side plays each other side home and away, giving them a 30 game league season. Would allow for a winter break of some kind for these lower league sides, possibly meaning they could save a bit of money in terms of how many games they have to host, travel to and rearrange because of postponements. A play-off similar to the lower league style we have now could be competed in between the 11th placed side of tier 2 and the 2nd, 3rd and 4th placed sides in tier 3. As for relegation from the SPFL, a system similar to what has just been introduced between League 2 and Highland/Lowland league could be used.

 

I'd also change the league names. It's a bit embarrassing calling a league that isn't a Premier League/Premiership a 'Premiership' and a league that most certainly isn't a championship a 'Championship'.

 

12, 12, 16, in my opinion, would give us a bit of clarity in our league systems. Whilst we have too many professional clubs in this country, we also have too many leagues. It would be unfair to tell the clubs in the bottom league to piss off, so feel the 16 team league would allow them to still be part of professional football in this country, yet perhaps do them a favour at the same time.

 

Just a thought.

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League reconstruction won't be happening until at least the year the current tv deal ends, four more years?

 

Aberdeen and Celtic want a smaller top league not a bigger one and with the 11-1 vote still in we won't be changing to 14, 16 or anything else.

 

Scottish football hopefully should make a few coin by selling some additional lower league matches for next season. The deal in place is 25 games for the lower leagues (10 Sky, 15 BT) but with 12 of them being obviously 4 Edi derby, 4 hibs sevo and 4 hearts sevco it only leaves 13 lower league matches to choose the rest of the year. Also 1 game per round of the challenge cup and the championship playoffs.

 

Also the premiership playoffs 6 games have to be picked from the quota of 40 top flight games - so either less games on during season or come back and renegotiate up to say 45-50 games.

 

So potentially get another couple of million into the game if there is interest from Sky, BT or Alba to show more games that they are contracted for at present.

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And they might want to work on getting an SPFL sponsor first too...

 

This is another thing that I find highly embarrassing.

 

But I also wonder why no company wants to sponsor it? Surely they don't care about the quality of the leagues, just the recognition/advertising it brings them? The way things have worked out this season, there's plenty of people talking about Scottish football, and with the way it's going to be next season I don't see that stopping soon.

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And they might want to work on getting an SPFL sponsor first too...

Another situation where Craigan and his slimy mates bemoaning Hibs going down really doesn't help. We've gained a better team in Hamilton. What's not to like?!

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The Championship is going to be the league to watch next season. The additional interest in it might be seen to be more valuable than reconstruction just to get all 3 back up.

 

Looking at this season Its going to be a 4 way battle for 2 promotion slots. Hiv's, hunlite, hunjr, and Falkirk will all be looking to get up. I'd say it'll be Hearts and Falkirk coming up unless there are serious changes at hunlite starting with sally being shown the door and Hiv's really need to stick with Butcher and allow him to overhaul the whole club.

 

I'd much rather have a 16 or 18 team top league and looking at the Championship the only club I'd see struggling to hold their own if it was 18 now would be Dumbarton, the rest would be able to survive and probably thrive in a larger league system. That'll never happen though with the current chairmen and SPFL leadership, well, might now that senior clubs realise that their money isnt hurt too much by the loss of those 2 hunlite home games per season.

 

I'd love to see sally fail in his promotion bid, the panto that would unfold during and after that failed bid would be worth sally's weight in gold.

Aye if you support Hibs or Hearts it is. :spanner:

 

Fuck that. I'll be watching the Scottish Premiership where the dandy dons will be playing.

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I'd imagine a top tier of 14 will be announced mid season...that and auto promotion plus a play off place from the Championship should all but guarantee promotion for the gang of three...they play 46 league games a season in all but the Premiership in England...more games also equals more revenue...time for them there SPL boys to earn their pay.

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Although the split means uneven home and away fixtures for the teams, I like it and I think 12 teams in the top flight is perfect.

 

Everyone bar Celtic had something to play for right to the end and I do not think there are enough big clubs to justify 14, 16 , 18 or 20 team leagues.

 

I think 10 is not enough and is too cut throat.

 

The fact the 3h s are in the first division next season( fuck this championship nonsense ) should not cloud the fact that 12 is the right amount of teams and they are not good enough. If the Huns survive , they are likely to come up sooner or later and all 3 will be in the top flight within 5 years. It provides a good standard of top league teams while still having a few other good teams fighting for promotion. This season was evidence of that with 3 teams going to the last day with the chance of promotion and Hamilton outplaying hibs in the second leg of the playoff.

 

I reckon the First division should be 12 teams too as mentioned above but the 2nd and 3rd should run parallel as north and south leagues with maybe 2 in each going up and 4 down . As you go down the leagues travel distances tend to get bigger so it would cut down on costs for the smaller teams and mean more Derbys which would create more interest. Relegation from these leagues to the current highland and lowland leagues

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Nothing will happen, some of you boys could give the Tims a run in the paranoia stakes.

Correct. Worst case scenario is they portray the championship as a better league.

 

Some massive clubs in England have been relegated before and some are still down.

 

Swings and roundabouts.

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Aye if you support Hibs or Hearts it is. :spanner:

 

Fuck that. I'll be watching the Scottish Premiership where the dandy dons will be playing.

 

 

Or if you are the TV comps, the BBC, the newspapers... all eyes will be on the Championship next season. 4 Edinburgh derbys, hunlite v hunjr 4 times, 3 or 4 teams going for the title and promotion... A lot more going on than Celtic running away with the league and us winning a cup double.

 

Saying it'll be the league to watch doesnt mean I think we'll all stop watching Aberdeen, then you already knew that.

 

Cantankerous cunt.

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Or if you are the TV comps, the BBC, the newspapers... all eyes will be on the Championship next season. 4 Edinburgh derbys, hunlite v hunjr 4 times, 3 or 4 teams going for the title and promotion... A lot more going on than Celtic running away with the league and us winning a cup double.

 

Saying it'll be the league to watch doesnt mean I think we'll all stop watching Aberdeen, then you already knew that.

 

Cantankerous cunt.

:laughing:

 

The bit in bold isn't happening. :scarf:

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