caledonia Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 UK anti-piracy campaign set to beginwho thought this one out loland check some of the comments left People in the UK who persistently pirate music and movies will soon start getting emails warning them that their actions are illegal.The warnings are part of a larger scheme that aims to educate people about copyright and legal ways to enjoy digital content.Starting next year, up to four warnings annually will be sent to households suspected of copyright infringement.But if people ignore the warnings, no further action will be taken. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28374457 Link to comment
Ke1t Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 There's so much file sharing at this point that the only way they could stop it is to shut down the Internet and make every piece of offline data personally tagged to one machine/device. Since that's as likely to happen as me waking up to find Angelina Jolie bouncing on my dick they'll continue to send out these idiotic warnings that we'll all just ignore. Link to comment
Poodler Posted July 20, 2014 Share Posted July 20, 2014 I haven't downloaded any music for a couple of years but away to get back on it this week, haven't had a desktop for a while. Can I still use torrents and pirate bay or has shit changed recently? I'll research properly this week like, just a heads up would be good Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Yip, can someone put some simple instructions on of how to do this for music / films etc. Nae geek talk please, keep it simple. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Yip, can someone put some simple instructions on of how to do this for music / films etc. Nae geek talk please, keep it simple. (1) Go here: www.utorrent.com/(2) download and then install the client(3) Go to: thepiratebay.se/(4) Search for whatever movie/album/etc... you like(5) click your chosen file (A file which has more seeds will generally download quicker) and the client should automatically begin the downloading process. Marginally more technically demanding than switching on a computer. Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 (1) Go here: www.utorrent.com/(2) download and then install the client(3) Go to: thepiratebay.se/(4) Search for whatever movie/album/etc... you like(5) click your chosen file (A file which has more seeds will generally download quicker) and the client should automatically begin the downloading process. Marginally more technically demanding than switching on a computer. Ok, that's where I got stuck. What the fuck does that mean? Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Ok, that's where I got stuck. What the fuck does that mean? I can't open that website at home, but I imagine it's fairly self explanatory. Go to the website... click on the 'downloads' or 'software' section, or whatever, and download the software. There might even be a direct link on the homepage. The 'client' is just the software which controls the download. Once you've downloaded the client, and been prompted to install it, you'll probably never have to worry about it again... as it should automatically open when you select a file on the piratebay, or wherever... Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Can you send me an e-mail with proper instructions / screenshots etc? I'll reward you with a special Dons prize. Link to comment
Sonoftherock Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I only have internet access at work right now, which means I can't get onto these torrent sites at the moment, so I'm only guessing really... In the meantime, someone else will read this thread today and can probably give you a better description. If that doesn't happen then I'll drop you a line once I'm sorted. Link to comment
beer gut Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I switched from torrents to newsgroups a few years ago. They are very similar except you have to pay a $10 a month fee to a company like Astraweb/Usenet Server etc but the download speeds are much faster. Also newsgroups don't seem to get the same attention as torrents for some reason. Link to comment
fatjim Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 If you use come.in it gives you access to all the banned sites through a proxy. 1 Link to comment
StandFree1982 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 BT and SKY and i'm sure a few others have banned sites like piratebay so you may struggle without using a proxy Link to comment
BrianFaePerth Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 The past few posts demonstrate why this will fail. Link to comment
ScottishJohn Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 iptorrents.ru Fast but you need to upload aswell as download or you will get banned. I have 3 invites for the site I think! Link to comment
dave_min Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Since I discovered both Spotify and Netflix I've stopped stealing completely. Link to comment
lukas989 Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 A nice alternative is gaining entertainment direct from YouTube: http://www.listentoyoutube.com/ http://www.clipconverter.cc/ No client downloads, just shove a URL into the field and hit ok. Easy peasy japanesey. YouTube is chock-a-block with full albums, shows and movies these days. Link to comment
The Boofon Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I bought a pirate computer game once. Worked perfectly until they contacted me to download a patch. Link to comment
minijc Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 I bought a pirate computer game once. Worked perfectly until they contacted me to download a patch.You are such a plank. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 warez sites are still what i use… basically websites which links to direct downloads of the files you're looking for… The best won't charge you, less danger of you being snooped upon (like Torrents - unless you use some sort of IP Blocker) and everything you could possibly want hot off the telly from the states... Just search for warez sites, and you'll see what I mean. Link to comment
fatjim Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Since I discovered both Spotify and Netflix I've stopped stealing completely. I use spotify and netflix too and it has definitely curtailed my torrent use considerably. You can very quickly lose interest in netflix though so changing the DNS codes to make your computer think you are in the US gives you access to a lot more content. Link to comment
Bobby Connor Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Can you send me an e-mail with proper instructions / screenshots etc? I'll reward you with a special Dons prize.Have you not got Google on your internet? Give a man a fish etc. Link to comment
caledonia Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 Can you send me an e-mail with proper instructions / screenshots etc? I'll reward you with a special Dons prize.CLICK THIS SAVE FILE THEN OPEN IThttp://www.utorrent.com/downloads/complete/os/win PS watch out when installing that you unclick any adds/toolbars or the like Link to comment
caledonia Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 I use torrents sometimes but mostly use uploaded.net now for my downloads (its not free but you can pay for a month and download everything at once)Or get free codes from people in the know and if you pay for a month you get a free code to give away (24 hours and this goes up depending on the amount of time you take out) proxy or http://come.in/ as fatjim has posted to get past the UK ISP blocks Link to comment
tutankamun Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 Since I discovered both Spotify and Netflix I've stopped stealing completely.Same here. Spotify is getting better all the time and I usually find something to watch on Netflix, although I do admit I don't watch it as much as I used to. The Netflix sponsored programmes are great though, the future of TV imo, just needs to be more of them though. Are people who illegally download not bothered that their actions could have a negative impact on the very stuff they are interested in downloading? Numerous decent TV series have been cancelled as a direct result of illegal downloading in recent years which has left me quite frustrated. Very annoying when a show you are enjoying doesn't get renewed for another series because of 'low viewing figures'. The bottom line is these shows need to make money or they will be cancelled. I admit I still illegally stream football from the net but I already pay for Sky and BT so my conscience is fairly clear. Link to comment
caledonia Posted July 21, 2014 Author Share Posted July 21, 2014 In the not to distant future copyright will be a thing of the past as it cannot be halted and when 3d printing hits mainstream everything will be copied. As someone said in the commentsIf i buy a hammer and lend it to a friend that is legalIf I buy a movie and lend it to a friend I am a thief soon you will just be able to make the hammer Link to comment
ChutneyLove Posted July 21, 2014 Share Posted July 21, 2014 CLICK THIS SAVE FILE THEN OPEN IThttp://www.utorrent.com/downloads/complete/os/win PS watch out when installing that you unclick any adds/toolbars or the like Ok, that's the mistake I made a time before. I never unclicked things - landed up with loads of shite popping up on the laptop all the time. I'll try that link when I get home in the morning and see how I get on. I'm nae going to get over-worried and miss my flight or anything, but I'll try to do it before I go. Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Numerous decent TV series have been cancelled as a direct result of illegal downloading in recent years which has left me quite frustrated. Very annoying when a show you are enjoying doesn't get renewed for another series because of 'low viewing figures'. The bottom line is these shows need to make money or they will be cancelled. Sorry but that's clearly bullshit... American Network TV shows are reliant on an 18-49 audiences to get them advertising, there's less than 1000 Nielsen boxes in the US - that's what defines how successful a show is. No viewers, no advertising, no show. And the most illegally downloaded TV show ? Game of Thrones, on a Pay TV channel, which is also one of the highest generating DVD and Blu Ray box sets - it's not doing too shabby is it ? As for movies, last year was the highest grossing year for box office takings, and with Home Viewing, DVD/Blu Ray, Director's Cut versions, again Hollywood ain't doing as bad as they'd want you to believe. Low viewing figures are a result of shows generally not connecting with an audience, being in a difficult time slot, and being poorly marketed. Whilst that doesn't mean that downloading is right, plenty shows get cancelled (good and bad). It's not because of downloading, it's because not enough people are watching it in the first place and the production costs aren't being recouped. And it's because the tv channels are impatient money grubbing bottom line obsessed. Link to comment
beer gut Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sorry but that's clearly bullshit... American Network TV shows are reliant on an 18-49 audiences to get them advertising, there's less than 1000 Nielsen boxes in the US - that's what defines how successful a show is. No viewers, no advertising, no show. And the most illegally downloaded TV show ? Game of Thrones, on a Pay TV channel, which is also one of the highest generating DVD and Blu Ray box sets - it's not doing too shabby is it ? As for movies, last year was the highest grossing year for box office takings, and with Home Viewing, DVD/Blu Ray, Director's Cut versions, again Hollywood ain't doing as bad as they'd want you to believe. Low viewing figures are a result of shows generally not connecting with an audience, being in a difficult time slot, and being poorly marketed. Whilst that doesn't mean that downloading is right, plenty shows get cancelled (good and bad). It's not because of downloading, it's because not enough people are watching it in the first place and the production costs aren't being recouped. And it's because the tv channels are impatient money grubbing bottom line obsessed.Totally agree. . The thing that pisses me off is that Hollywood/Music industry assumes every illegal download costs them x amount of $ which is clearly bullshit. Take the music industry. Say for example I've bought a song on vinal years ago but i want an MP3 version. I don't have a CD i can rip so I can either Buy a CD and rip it to MP3 or downland an MP3 legally or illegally.The thing is i have already paid for the song once so if i download the song via a torrent in what way has that cost the industry money?? Same goes for Movies/Tv series. The formats are changing all the time and you also have a film industry who think its a good idea to separate the world so a US Region 1 blu-ray cant be played on a UK Region 2 machine. The simple fact is both industries missed a trick with downloads big time. They thought they could stop what was happening by implementing copy protection on discs and cinavia etc when they should just embrace the technology and used it to their advantage. Link to comment
tutankamun Posted July 22, 2014 Share Posted July 22, 2014 Sorry but that's clearly bullshit...Ok fair point, I understand that shows get cancelled due to low viewing figures, however archaic the means of establishing these viewing figures are. However take the case of Heroes. The 1st season was a huge success then it got hit by the writers strike and generally tailed off. Successive series received lower and lower viewing figures until finally it was cancelled. The thing that gets me though is, if you factor in the people watching on demand (eg HBO / Sky Go), on catch-up AND illegal downloading, Heroes was the most popular programme on Earth at the time it was cancelled. Obviously these methods of watching do not generate advertising monies... Game of Thrones and HBO in general do not seem too concerned by the illegal downloading at the moment, in fact quite the opposite. The fact that GOT is the most pirated TV show is a badge of honour and actually increases the overall popularity of the show. The tide is turning though, while for years people have illegally obtained cable via a corrupt 'cable guy' wiring you up to the neighbours HBO, at least somebody was still paying for it. A growing (younger) generation in the US are just not signing up to cable at all, preferring the illegal download method, HBO and more importantly advertisers cannot continue to ignore this fact. The cable model is outdated as Netflix have proved and the cable networks need to react. Article on the BBC today:http://m.bbc.co.uk/news/technology-28404597 Link to comment
dj_bollocks Posted July 23, 2014 Share Posted July 23, 2014 I hate to break it to you but Heroes by Season 4 was absolutely not the most popular programme on Earth when it was cancelled. Yes when it started it was a phenomenon (averaging a 6.0 in it's first season - unheard of now). But by the time the 4th season rolled around it finished with a 2.0 and if you're not doing at least a 3.0 18-49 demos you aren't making money for the network… Source http://heroeswiki.com/Nielsen_Ratings How Tim Kring managed to convince NBC to give him another season next year I'll never know, by that point the Heroes pooch had been mutilated. But the bigger point as you mention is the whole network TV model is outdated. People (adults) ARE willing to pay for content, and clearly enough people are willing to pay for content that can make Netflix / Pay TV subscribers profitable, but then traditional TV revenue generating is becoming outdated anyway. Product placement in shows, online revenue from each networks equivalent of iPlayer (mobile/apps/tablet) the fact that you have to watch ads to watch the itvplayer/4od So there's always going to be a barometer of how popular a show is equating to what its ratings are primarily, but mainly as to what amount of revenue it can potentially generate. Community the US sitcom is a perfect example of how a poor rating but fanatical audience has managed to go 6 seasons despite being continually under the threat of cancellation from Networks. It was cheap to produce, was critically acclaimed, but wasn't even breaking a 2.0 in the key demos. It introduced product placement from Subway amongst others, it cutback on cast members and now after being cancelled by its network it's going to the new Yahoo! network platform because they know it's cheap to produce and there's already a following out there. Let's not forget that Family Guy, the biggest show on the Fox Network, was cancelled… And Peter Griffin said it best… https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0oMTmtN7lHI Everything is online - as someone who spends a significant time abroad - why wait for a local provider to furnish you with the products you want, if the internet can provide them for you. And don't expect your fan base to wait for you to catch up if you can't provide them with what they want when they want it. Doctor Who is a huge example of a fan base that will continually shell out cash to watch something that they've seen before on multiple platforms (Star Wars, and Star Trek being another 2). BBC Worldwide made a mint on releasing the recently found Patrick Troughton episodes in iTunes last year and then releasing the DVD 6 weeks later. Fans bought the vanilla episodes on iTunes then paid again for the higher quality and additional content on the DVD. You won't find that so much with CSI or Grey's Anatomy fans. Anyway, the moral of the story is don't fall in love with a US Network TV show until it's been renewed for a 2nd season, chances are you're going to be disappointed. Cable TV shows stand a better chance, and frankly they're of a much higher quality these days that I barely watch anything else from the States. And besides, why would you want to furnish Murdoch with your hard earned ? Link to comment
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