Bottler,

[daytripping]

Some people just don't have the courage of their convictions, why say something then back out of it, if I say I'm going to do something by god I will do it, makes me sick.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813604/It-doesn-t-like-right-time-Terminal-cancer-sufferer-29-fresh-ticking-Grand-Canyon-visit-bucket-list-says-plans-end-life-just-not-yet.html

[BrianFaePerth]

Some people just don't have the courage of their convictions, why say something then back out of it, if I say I'm going to do something by god I will do it, makes me sick.

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2813604/It-doesn-t-like-right-time-Terminal-cancer-sufferer-29-fresh-ticking-Grand-Canyon-visit-bucket-list-says-plans-end-life-just-not-yet.html

 

Go on Dayts, show her how it's done

[daytripping]

 

Go on Dayts, show her how it's done

 

 

You'd miss my cutting edge wit and charm too much.

[Bluto10]

Dinna worry DT min we have harcus.

 

 

 

 

Ouch.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

I attribute her change of attitude, to the intervention of this guy:

 

I am a Catholic seminarian. I have terminal brain cancer. This is my response to Brittany Maynard.

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-a-catholic-seminarian.-i-have-terminal-brain-cancer.-this-is-my-respon

 

[Ke1t]

I attribute her change of attitude, to the intervention of this guy:

 

I am a Catholic seminarian. I have terminal brain cancer. This is my response to Brittany Maynard.

 

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/i-am-a-catholic-seminarian.-i-have-terminal-brain-cancer.-this-is-my-respon

 

 

I was at a funeral thing yesterday, and one of the folks I got talking to happened to send their kids to a Jesuit All Boys School.

 

Seemed to be getting a great education, but I worry how an all male environment affects kids in the long term.

 

You look at previous all-male societies and rampant homosexuality seems to have been the order of the day. The Greek militaries in the Ancient World, perfect example. Boys grow up in the absence of female company, they hit that magic age where they're ready to fuck anything with a pulse, and their only interaction is with other males. Pretty inevitable what's going to happen.

 

The priesthood seems to be perfectly set-up to produce sexual predators... an absence of female companionship and all the vulnerable children they can predator.

[Notorious Chee]

http://news.sky.com/story/1365708/brittany-maynard-terminally-ill-woman-dies

 

Clearly she did have the courage of her convictions.

 

Brave choice, I would rather have the choice to take my own life than live my final days suffering on a hospital bed.

[BrianFaePerth]

and in her last days Dayts called her a bottler

[Clydeside_Sheep]

a Jesuit All Boys School.

I got married in a Jesuit Parish, which has a private co-ed school attached.

 

ive rather gone off the Jesuits though, has-beens, esp with Franny who is proving a poor Pontiff.

 

Seemed to be getting a great education

The best.

 

Jesuits were particularly good teachers; their former methods are still used by traditionalists today.

 

Jesuits are burnt out these days, youngest one ive met is in his 60s.

 

but I worry how an all male environment affects kids in the long term.

You'll be against gay adoption then?

 

The priesthood seems to be perfectly set-up to produce sexual predators..

No, the predators entered, they were not produced.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Well, I am disappointed the woman took her own life.

 

A cowardly and misguided thing to do, alas. Its not good to be frightened of life.

 

If I was in her family, Id have warned her "If you top yourself, I'll effing kill you"

 

What next? Folk talking the petted lip and killing themself because they dont earn 100k a year?

[Dynamo]

Well, I am disappointed the woman took her own life.

 

A cowardly and misguided thing to do, alas. Its not good to be frightened of life.

 

If I was in her family, Id have warned her "If you top yourself, I'll effing kill you"

 

What next? Folk talking the petted lip and killing themself because they dont earn 100k a year?

 

No, fair play to her I say. It was a brave choice. She was dying, she just chose to curtail a few months of pain. I don't know why this offends some people.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

No, fair play to her I say. It was a brave choice. She was dying, she just chose to curtail a few months of pain. I don't know why this offends some people.

I am not offended, but saddened (you know how sensitive I am).

 

She wouldnt have been in any pain at all, she would be on morphine etc. Its a myth that these people are seeking to escape pain. With our modern health systems and medicines, there is no reason for anyone to ever experience lengthy pain.

 

Its just fear - they are frightened of what may happen to them, as the illness progresses.

 

Her choice increases the pressure on all other terminal patients to do the same, whereas many would prefer to savour every day they can.

 

Maybe lying in a hospital bed all day watchin shite on the telly isnt everyones cup of tea, but - hey - you're a long time dead.

 

My father in law is dying of cancer currently - if he had thrown in the towel and killed himself earlier, he would have not seen his daughter (my wife) move into her family home, nor his grandsons (from other daughter) 1st birthday. Nor would he have gotten to enjoy my many hospice vists to see him etc!

 

Family is worth living for, even if you are infirm or elderly.

[Dynamo]

I am not offended, but saddened (you know how sensitive I am).

 

She wouldnt have been in any pain at all, she would be on morphine etc. Its a myth that these people are seeking to escape pain. With our modern health systems and medicines, there is no reason for anyone to ever experience lengthy pain.

 

Its just fear - they are frightened of what may happen to them, as the illness progresses.

 

Her choice increases the pressure on all other terminal patients to do the same, whereas many would prefer to savour every day they can.

 

Maybe lying in a hospital bed all day watchin shite on the telly isnt everyones cup of tea, but - hey - you're a long time dead.

 

My father in law is dying of cancer currently - if he had thrown in the towel and killed himself earlier, he would have not seen his daughter (my wife) move into her family home, nor his grandsons (from other daughter) 1st birthday. Nor would he have gotten to enjoy my many hospice vists to see him etc!

 

Family is worth living for, even if you are infirm or elderly.

 

Yes that is true, which is why it is a choice, it is not for everybody.

 

And your point re not being in pain because of morphine is complete bollocks.

[Poodler]

I am not offended, but saddened (you know how sensitive I am).

 

She wouldnt have been in any pain at all, she would be on morphine etc. Its a myth that these people are seeking to escape pain. With our modern health systems and medicines, there is no reason for anyone to ever experience lengthy pain.

 

Its just fear - they are frightened of what may happen to them, as the illness progresses.

 

Her choice increases the pressure on all other terminal patients to do the same, whereas many would prefer to savour every day they can.

 

Maybe lying in a hospital bed all day watchin shite on the telly isnt everyones cup of tea, but - hey - you're a long time dead.

 

My father in law is dying of cancer currently - if he had thrown in the towel and killed himself earlier, he would have not seen his daughter (my wife) move into her family home, nor his grandsons (from other daughter) 1st birthday. Nor would he have gotten to enjoy my many hospice vists to see him etc!

 

Family is worth living for, even if you are infirm or elderly.

 

Speaking from a MEDICAL background, people do exist in pain in their final moments despite morphine, midazolam etc. You can only give so much before you poison them and add to their troubles. I worked in palliative care for a year, if folk want to die then I'm all for it. God doesn't exist in those places, only people do. It's people who make the difference. Sound cunts like me, actually

[Henry]

I can only hope I live long enough to see my children move into a cardboard cut-out house knocked up by Cala Homes or the like using the cheapest materials available, it will be a proud day indeed.

[Henry]

Anyway, illness hasn't been very good to Brittany.

 

 

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Yes that is true, which is why it is a choice, it is not for everybody

A choice for how long?

 

The NHS already subtley bump folk off, via starving them to death etc.

 

And your point re not being in pain because of morphine is complete bollocks.

If the medicine is properly done, patients should be in no pain at all.

 

Thats the case with my FIL who doesnt experince pain in his condition - my wife is a pharmacist and she confirmed that the capability is there to ensure people are not enduring pain.

 

I once shattered my elbow in a brawl (!) and it was the worst pain ever. Once I was hooked up to the aul' Morphine however, the pain was totally gone and I was as happy as larry.

 

It made a really amazing difference - it was so painful that I demanded to be wheeled naked through the hospital, rather than put on a paper gown (bending my arm was sore, and they had cut me out of my clothes)

 

I also tried to bite a doctor who touched my elbow to examine it. Thats how bad it was.

 

But with morphine - nothing but calm serenity and zero pain.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

I can only hope I live long enough to see my children move into a cardboard cut-out house knocked up by Cala Homes or the like using the cheapest materials available, it will be a proud day indeed.

It was Taylor Wimpey, thank you.

 

You are just jealous via having to live in a shack, on an island.

 

Robinson Crusoe we should call you.

[Bluto10]

Ah Clydeside min, ye daft mentalist.

[Bluto10]

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Speaking from a MEDICAL background, people do exist in pain in their final moments despite morphine, midazolam etc. You can only give so much before you poison them and add to their troubles.

Its true it takes a bit of fine tuning - but we do have effective pain relief.

 

You are right its a fine balance between pain relief and completely sedating them.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Often, it can be that people who are pro-family members choosing suicide - they are really thinking of themselves, not their sick relative.

 

They are pro the decision so they dont need to go down to the hospital every day, so they dont need to deal with the sadness, so they dont need to help their ill loved-one wash, dress or get to the toilet. etc etc

 

But I think families should be there for one another, even if it is difficult at times, or even if they have to miss Eastenders etc.

[boboisared]

A choice for how long?

 

The NHS already subtley bump folk off, via starving them to death etc.

 

 

If the medicine is properly done, patients should be in no pain at all.

 

Thats the case with my FIL who doesnt experince pain in his condition - my wife is a pharmacist and she confirmed that the capability is there to ensure people are not enduring pain.

 

I once shattered my elbow in a brawl (!) and it was the worst pain ever. Once I was hooked up to the aul' Morphine however, the pain was totally gone and I was as happy as larry.

 

It made a really amazing difference - it was so painful that I demanded to be wheeled naked through the hospital, rather than put on a paper gown (bending my arm was sore, and they had cut me out of my clothes)

 

I also tried to bite a doctor who touched my elbow to examine it. Thats how bad it was.

 

But with morphine - nothing but calm serenity and zero pain.

Aye, because that's comaprable to inoperable brain cancer you mong.

[tup]

Topping yourself

[chaos_defrost]

CS my dad died of lung cancer. He never ended his own life and to say that he didn't suffer any pain towards the end of his life is just total ignorance. If someone's given morphine in hospital, they're obviously in pain in the first place. My dad ended up getting pumped full of that much drugs that he wouldn't have had a clue what was going on around him before he died. You made a couple of valid points but you have a habit of inventing shit to support whatever argument you support.

[Quagmire]

Often, it can be that people who are pro-family members choosing suicide - they are really thinking of themselves, not their sick relative.They are pro the decision so they dont need to go down to the hospital every day, so they dont need to deal with the sadness, so they dont need to help their ill loved-one wash, dress or get to the toilet. etc etcBut I think families should be there for one another, even if it is difficult at times, or even if they have to miss Eastenders etc.

You are clean off the top shelf mate.

[chaos_defrost]

Aye that's an absolute belter of a quote. I support family member choosing to end their life cause I canna be arsed visiting them in hospital.

[spamspamspam]

Often, it can be that people who are pro-family members choosing suicide - they are really thinking of themselves, not their sick relative.

 

They are pro the decision so they dont need to go down to the hospital every day, so they dont need to deal with the sadness, so they dont need to help their ill loved-one wash, dress or get to the toilet. etc etc

 

But I think families should be there for one another, even if it is difficult at times, or even if they have to miss Eastenders etc.

Is there any crock of shite you won't spout just for the sake of it.

[dazzy_deff]

Often, it can be that people who are pro-family members choosing suicide - they are really thinking of themselves, not their sick relative.

 

They are pro the decision so they dont need to go down to the hospital every day, so they dont need to deal with the sadness, so they dont need to help their ill loved-one wash, dress or get to the toilet. etc etc

 

But I think families should be there for one another, even if it is difficult at times, or even if they have to miss Eastenders etc.

BELL END!!

[tommo1903]

There are definitely people I am pro suicide for.

 

I will say no more.