dazzy_deff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, shut up meg said: The club only bought him from Celtic for £1.5m about a month ago. Something fishy going on there. Not really - had him on loan with first option to buy. Realised other bigger clubs wanted him so invested the cash, knowing they would recoup it plus more straight away. Good business. 1 Link to comment
Tord31 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: No, but a deal was apparently agreed. Scott Allan & Drey Wright plus cash. Wright is almost worthless & Allan is worth about £150k given his health issues. I’d guess £300k plus those players. I suspect Aberdeen/Hibs have missed the boat now. If it comes down to purely him going on a Bosman a good few English clubs will be interested I think Aberdeen/Hibs will need to get him in January to have a chance. As you say on a free transfer an english club will easily take a punt but hey some of that will depend on how he does this season. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 50 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: Not really - had him on loan with first option to buy. Realised other bigger clubs wanted him so invested the cash, knowing they would recoup it plus more straight away. Good business. And fucked Celtic over in the process ❤ Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 23 minutes ago, Tord31 said: I think Aberdeen/Hibs will need to get him in January to have a chance. As you say on a free transfer an english club will easily take a punt but hey some of that will depend on how he does this season. Does the fact hes not signed mean we can stop speaking about him for the next wee while? Or will he still be referenced at Alan Gow or Jim O'Brien levels for the forseeable? Link to comment
Tord31 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: Does the fact hes not signed mean we can stop speaking about him for the next wee while? Or will he still be referenced at Alan Gow or Jim O'Brien levels for the forseeable? He's still the messiah until he moves to Sunderland on January deadline day Link to comment
BonnieDon Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Shinniesta said: He had some record last season he was the clear top goal scorer in the Eredivisie with 26 goals for a team that finished second bottom. He scored 29 goals in total last season in only 33 games. He's only 26 and a Greek international but his record before last season was nothing to write home about. Still considering how good his stats were last season I'm surprised Celtic only had to pay £2.5m considering Hibs want £5m for Nisbett. Nisbett only scored 14 goals in the league last season. Cosgrove had a better scoring rate. He hasn't performed terribly well since West Ham declared their interest in him back in January. Prior to signing a new deal with Hibs, I'm shocked no one made a 500k bid (from England) for Boyle considering how well he's been doing. Personally, I can't see Hibs receiving anywhere near the evaluation they had previously set for Doig, Nisbett and "Porto". Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tord31 said: He's still the messiah until he moves to Sunderland on January deadline day What a letdown if we sign him and he turns out to be shit. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, dazzy_deff said: Does the fact hes not signed mean we can stop speaking about him for the next wee while? Or will he still be referenced at Alan Gow or Jim O'Brien levels for the forseeable? Fucking hope so. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 11 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: He deserves all the stick he will get between now & the desperation signings to fix what should have been done long ago in January. I will continue to lambast his shockingly amateur treatment of our central defence. Third place at best could well be beyond us come January with our pish defence What a shitebagger of a post. Definitely on the Troll / WUM scale. Glass wasn’t here in January to make changes then and you’re predetermined to lambast him. I hope now he has a chance to work with the team, he goes on to prove you wrong in a GIRFUY sort of way. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, BonnieDon said: Nisbett only scored 14 goals in the league last season. Cosgrove had a better scoring rate. He hasn't performed terribly well since West Ham declared their interest in him back in January. Prior to signing a new deal with Hibs, I'm shocked no one made a 500k bid (from England) for Boyle considering how well he's been doing. Personally, I can't see Hibs receiving anywhere near the evaluation they had previously set for Doig, Nisbett and "Porto". Stop calling him fucking Porto. 1 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, Tord31 said: I think Aberdeen/Hibs will need to get him in January to have a chance. As you say on a free transfer an english club will easily take a punt but hey some of that will depend on how he does this season. Might be available for a smallish fee come January Depends on how St Mirren are doing. If they’re comfortable they might accept £250k If they’re in a relegation battle they might forsake that as him helping them stay up is worth more to them. As folk have said we can forget about it all for 3 or 4 months now. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 19 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Might be available for a smallish fee come January Depends on how St Mirren are doing. If they’re comfortable they might accept £250k If they’re in a relegation battle they might forsake that as him helping them stay up is worth more to them. As folk have said we can forget about it all for 3 or 4 months now. Doubtful we are even seriously after him. Basic enquiry by the sounds of it, quoted a high amount then fucked it off. The hardon some folk are having for him is ridiculous. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 52 minutes ago, dazzy_deff said: Doubtful we are even seriously after him. Basic enquiry by the sounds of it, quoted a high amount then fucked it off. The hardon some folk are having for him is ridiculous. His stats are definitely sugar coated with penalties. 16 goals last season, 10 penalties. No idea what his assist stats are like. If we could get him for a smallish fee in January, or a nominal fee with Kennedy/McGeouch going the other way I’d be happy with that. Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 10 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: His stats are definitely sugar coated with penalties. 16 goals last season, 10 penalties. No idea what his assist stats are like. If we could get him for a smallish fee in January, or a nominal fee with Kennedy/McGeouch going the other way I’d be happy with that. The way folk are speaking on here, you'd think he was the messiah. One minute on here, Adam Rooney's pens dont count towards his goals tally, but McGrath's make him a world beater. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 hours ago, dazzy_deff said: What a letdown if we sign him and he turns out to be shit. See. Ricky Gillies, We seem to love buying st mirren players off the top of my head with differing success Dougie Bell. Peter Weir, Billy Stark , Frank McDougall, Kenny McLean all in the success bracket. Dave Winnie, Ian Cameron, Ricky Gillies, in the not so much bracket, Sure I've missed some Link to comment
perthshirered Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 I genuinely think a few dopes on here reckon that if Aberdeen tell McGeouch etc that they are being used as makeweights in transfer deals then they have no option but to go and that's it. 2 Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Hibs sign Dylan Tait from Raith Rovers and immediately loan him back Have to say, their recent recruitment looks far better than ours. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 4 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Hibs sign Dylan Tait from Raith Rovers and immediately loan him back Have to say, their recent recruitment looks far better than ours. Is it? Not sure I agree. Meuller sounds decent. Doyle-Hayes wouldn’t get in our team. Dylan Tait - no idea - young lad that may or may not make it. Daniel McKay - good potential & probably good signing Chris Cadden - bang average. The best thing for them is keeping Doig & Nisbet. I think we’d have maybe brought another player in if we’d managed to get two or three off the books. That may happen in January. Glass has plenty of options, but not sure he has the balance of the squad right yet. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 15 minutes ago, perthshirered said: I genuinely think a few dopes on here reckon that if Aberdeen tell McGeouch etc that they are being used as makeweights in transfer deals then they have no option but to go and that's it. Aye, easier said than done persuading players on good contracts to give that up to play for a St Mirren etc. We’d end up paying the balance of their contract. As an example, paying off the difference from a £4K per week contract going down to a £1.5k contract for 2 years is about £260k. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 6 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: As an example, paying off the difference from a £4K per week contract going down to a £1.5k contract for 2 years is about £260k. Surely still better paying £260k than the full £416k for the remainder of the contract? Link to comment
perthshirered Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 24 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Aye, easier said than done persuading players on good contracts to give that up to play for a St Mirren etc. We’d end up paying the balance of their contract. As an example, paying off the difference from a £4K per week contract going down to a £1.5k contract for 2 years is about £260k. I wonder what money McGeouch is on, reckon it might be pretty high. Kennedy I can't see being on much, Saints pay a few of their squad less than a grand a week so I can't see him being more than, say, 2k. Still, they are entitled to sit out their contracts Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 51 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Is it? Not sure I agree. Meuller sounds decent. Doyle-Hayes wouldn’t get in our team. Dylan Tait - no idea - young lad that may or may not make it. Daniel McKay - good potential & probably good signing Chris Cadden - bang average. The best thing for them is keeping Doig & Nisbet. I think we’d have maybe brought another player in if we’d managed to get two or three off the books. That may happen in January. Glass has plenty of options, but not sure he has the balance of the squad right yet. Your last paragraph is correct and kind of enforces my point. I’ll cut him some slack as it’s his first window but we have a surfeit of like for like central midfielders and a dearth in other areas like full back and in the wide areas. The Longstaff signing bemuses me. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 26 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Your last paragraph is correct and kind of enforces my point. I’ll cut him some slack as it’s his first window but we have a surfeit of like for like central midfielders and a dearth in other areas like full back and in the wide areas. The Longstaff signing bemuses me. I presumed Longstaff was a short-term fix for Ferguson leaving. We have a surplus of central midfielders but none of them are particularly creative or good going forward. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 1 hour ago, sooth_stander said: Hibs sign Dylan Tait from Raith Rovers and immediately loan him back Have to say, their recent recruitment looks far better than ours. Hibs pulling away from us as well now... Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 9 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: I presumed Longstaff was a short-term fix for Ferguson leaving. We have a surplus of central midfielders but none of them are particularly creative or good going forward. Why didn't we await Ferguson's departure (or non departure as it transpired) before splashing out a large loan fee for the Geordie, that could have been better utilised elsewhere? Was Longstaff on the verge of going elsewhere unless we "swooped" when we did?" Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 2 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Why didn't we await Ferguson's departure (or non departure as it transpired) before splashing out a large loan fee for the Geordie, that could have been better utilised elsewhere? Was Longstaff on the verge of going elsewhere unless we "swooped" when we did?" Rumour has it Ferguson turned down a move but that could be bollocks. Huddersfield was the alleged club. Can’t say I blame him not wanting to go there. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, sooth_stander said: Why didn't we await Ferguson's departure (or non departure as it transpired) before splashing out a large loan fee for the Geordie, that could have been better utilised elsewhere? Was Longstaff on the verge of going elsewhere unless we "swooped" when we did?" It's a difficult one. If Ferguson had gone and wasn't replaced in time he would have also received criticism for that. He's got a big decision ahead in terms of how he manages Brown, Ferguson and Longstaff. It should be 2 from 3 really but will be interesting to see how he deals with it. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, aberdeen1970 said: It's a difficult one. If Ferguson had gone and wasn't replaced in time he would have also received criticism for that. He's got a big decision ahead in terms of how he manages Brown, Ferguson and Longstaff. It should be 2 from 3 really but will be interesting to see how he deals with it. He’s playing all three AND Ojo, which is fucking madness. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 Just now, WesthillWanderersFC said: He’s playing all three AND Ojo, which is fucking madness. Aye. Big decisions ahead. Somethings got to give. I don't think he can play all of those 4 together and get the attacking balance right. Whilst Ojo’s extra effort has been appreciated he doesn't have the discipline or the creativity to play that attacking midfield role despite Glass praising his tactical acumen. He's a weak link as his final ball lets him down and he's invariably out of position when we lose possession. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted September 1, 2021 Share Posted September 1, 2021 7 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: He’s playing all three AND Ojo, which is fucking madness. 3 in centre mid is fine if playing 5 at the back and with the personnel we now have, it looks (to me anyway) the way to go; and means we don't get countered easily if the wing backs are caught high up the park. Means two "up top" as well. Despite Glass having dabbled in 5 at the back in Europe, his default formation appears to be 4-3-2-1 Our wage bill must be thru the fucking roof now. Link to comment
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