tup Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Charged with grooming a 15 year old. All that money cannot buy you common sense it would seem. Link to comment
tightbreeks Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 he's got the look of paedo about him, a face that looks bred on wotsits. Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 He does indeed. However, he's 27 years old, hardly a young loon, he's had ample time to get a bird. What's going on that he's knocking about with 15 year olds? Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 Can't imagine she will be his bird for much longer but you never know with weemin, sometimes money can take precedence over stuff like paedophilia. Link to comment
looksgoodinred Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 Can't imagine she will be his bird for much longer but you never know with weemin, sometimes money can take precedence over stuff like paedophilia. they have a new baby together, born in January. i imagine she'll want to be certain he's done what he's accused of before she ruins her family. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted April 23, 2015 Share Posted April 23, 2015 How come Bill Wyman never got into bother for his very public tubing of the 13 year old Mandy Smith? Link to comment
tup Posted April 23, 2015 Author Share Posted April 23, 2015 they have a new baby together, born in January. i imagine she'll want to be certain he's done what he's accused of before she ruins her family. No smoke without fire, he's done it alright. Link to comment
boboisared Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 No smoke without fire, he's done it alright.What's he done though? Picked up a girl in an over 18's nightclub? Is there anything to suggest he knew her age or is it purely guesswork on your part Tup? If it's a simple matter of him rattling a 15 year old girl he met in a nightclub, with no knowledge of her age then her parents and the management of the club should be done. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Aye its ridiculous Tarted up like the slag she is and she will look at least 20 probably. Shouldn't be in a nightclub if under 18. She knew what she was doing all right, the money grabbing tart. T Link to comment
tup Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 What's he done though? Picked up a girl in an over 18's nightclub? Is there anything to suggest he knew her age or is it purely guesswork on your part Tup? If it's a simple matter of him rattling a 15 year old girl he met in a nightclub, with no knowledge of her age then her parents and the management of the club should be done. Grooming is the charge, so I'd imagine it's more than just a chance meeting with a well developed 15 year old in a nightclub. In these types of cases, guilt can be assumed. It's only the level of malevolence on the part of the adult that is to be decided by the court. Link to comment
Bluto10 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Malevolence.You swallowed a dictionary min. Link to comment
looksgoodinred Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 i'm sorry. but having been a well-developed 14-year-old who easily got into bars without being ID'd, i can't speak to whether there was sexual contact, and that'll probably come down to he said/she said. but i don't have many doubts about the intentions involved. i think she knew exactly what she was doing. or she wouldn't have posted pictures of them together. "grooming" to me implies a lack of ability to consent or understand what's occurring, and being led along. i doubt very much she was led. he's still an idiot. underage or not, he was caught out with someone not his girlfriend/recent mother to his child. and this isn't 1978 any more. even if she's dolled up to look like 20, he should be asking. this allegedly went on for more than just the one chance meeting in a bar, so he'd have had opportunity to clarify information. if he'd cared to. he's an idiot. and her parents are just jumping on a bandwagon because they can. Link to comment
Henry Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 i'm sorry. but having been a well-developed 14-year-old Link to comment
looksgoodinred Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 He should be asking? Don't be so naive. Player: 'Are you old enough for me to be sticking my dick into?'Female: 'Yes, I'm 19 years old'. Day later, 15 year old reports footballer for underage sex. Naive? not really. but he shouldn't be sticking his dick into her that night either. until he knows. they met more than once. don't tell me he can't figure a way to check her ID at some point? or check her facebook or instagram accounts -- that'll give a good clue as to her real age. he's an idiiot.and even if she were of age, he's still an idiot. Link to comment
tup Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 I think it's fairly obvious upon speaking to a girl roughly what age group she is in. Her lack of maturity should have been obvious and I'm not talking about in the physical sense. But he's probably not very emotionally mature himself. Link to comment
360 Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Grooming suggests that this could have been going on for months. A one off in a nightclub is maybe fair enough, there's no way he wouldn't have known over a time period longer than that. Link to comment
tup Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 The most mental thing of all is that Sunderland refuse to suspend him in the meantime. There is a very similar situation in the Highland League and the player's feet never touched the ground when it became public. Link to comment
boboisared Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Grooming suggests that this could have been going on for months. A one off in a nightclub is maybe fair enough, there's no way he wouldn't have known over a time period longer than that. Grooming could be texting? Again, nothing so far to suggest he purposely chose to target a 15 year old girl. If he's guilty then I'm all for him getting his balls chopped off. Until then... Link to comment
Henry Posted April 24, 2015 Share Posted April 24, 2015 Grooming suggests that this could have been going on for months. A one off in a nightclub is maybe fair enough, there's no way he wouldn't have known over a time period longer than that. Correct. The huns will probably give him a contract next season. Link to comment
tup Posted April 24, 2015 Author Share Posted April 24, 2015 They gave a time period for it, 27 December 2014 to sometime in February 2015, so I don't think what bobo is saying could apply at all in this instance. Link to comment
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