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So theres a lot of fuss in the media right now over Aul' Liz becoming the longest serving monarch.

 

What do you reckon?

 

Pro or anti-royal family?

 

BBC was crowing this morning that "theres not many" republicans in scotland. Probably true - even the SNP indy campaign promised to keep the royals.

 

But I think most people are ambivalent / disinterested, rather than overtly hostile.

 

Have they are use as heads of state? Is a monarchy better than an elected head of state? Can you imagine the likes of whom the general public would elect?

 

I am not a big fan, but I think I prefer a (much scaled back) Monarchy as head of state, than an elected nobody.

 

She will no doubt be making a lot of speeches etc over ths - think it would be apt for her to recognise that hers has been a very privileged life at the expense of others (keeping her in corgis etc), and so offer thanks, as well as the expected statement that its been a privilege to represent the people of the country.

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So theres a lot of fuss in the media right now over Aul' Liz becoming the longest serving monarch.

 

What do you reckon?

 

Pro or anti-royal family?

 

BBC was crowing this morning that "theres not many" republicans in scotland. Probably true - even the SNP indy campaign promised to keep the royals.

 

But I think most people are ambivalent / disinterested, rather than overtly hostile.

 

Have they are use as heads of state? Is a monarchy better than an elected head of state? Can you imagine the likes of whom the general public would elect?

 

I am not a big fan, but I think I prefer a (much scaled back) Monarchy as head of state, than an elected nobody.

 

She will no doubt be making a lot of speeches etc over ths - think it would be apt for her to recognise that hers has been a very privileged life at the expense of others (keeping her in corgis etc), and so offer thanks, as well as the expected statement that its been a privilege to represent the people of the country.

 

This is of course a misnomer. Scotland has its own monarchy, which just happens to be the same as the English monarchy (two crowns embodied in the one person), as a result of the Union of the Crowns in 1603 when a Scottish monarch (James VI) acceded to the English throne, thereby instituting Great Britain as we know it today. When the present monarch was crowned she undertook a separate coronation ceremony at St Giles in Edinburgh, in which she was presented with the Honours of Scotland.

 

Therefore in order to remove the monarchy from Scotland, a separate negotiation (and probably referendum) would be required... all that was up for grabs last year was the 'other' union, the Union of the Parliaments in 1707, which has no bearing on the status of the monarch either north or south of the border.

 

My own opinion: I am a sort of apathetic republican. I cannae really be bothered with the monarchy, and at times it seems little more than a dangerous anachronism. However the sheer effort and hassle of replacing them doesn't seem to me to justify the ends, so on that basis alone I am resigned to being stuck with them.

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Is that a metaphor?

 

Anyways, to the OP. You can take your Republicanism and shove it. There are plenty examples as varied as Tony Blair to the Daily Mail why we should never ever give in to Mob rule in this country which is what unfettered republicanism would quickly become. I like her family's parental role towards the country I genuinely do. I accept the lot of them are spoiled as fuck and would quite happily see the extended family reined in but equally we couldn't expect a family living in a council flat in Watford to do the same job.

 

She should be answerable in certain aspects to parliament (not least re expenditure of her lazy bastard family) , in the same way that parliament must remain answerable to her.

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This is of course a misnomer. Scotland has its own monarchy, which just happens to be the same as the English monarchy (two crowns embodied in the one person), as a result of the Union of the Crowns in 1603 when a Scottish monarch (James VI) acceded to the English throne, thereby instituting Great Britain as we know it today. When the present monarch was crowned she undertook a separate coronation ceremony at St Giles in Edinburgh, in which she was presented with the Honours of Scotland.

 

Therefore in order to remove the monarchy from Scotland, a separate negotiation (and probably referendum) would be required... all that was up for grabs last year was the 'other' union, the Union of the Parliaments in 1707, which has no bearing on the status of the monarch either north or south of the border.

 

My own opinion: I am a sort of apathetic republican. I cannae really be bothered with the monarchy, and at times it seems little more than a dangerous anachronism. However the sheer effort and hassle of replacing them doesn't seem to me to justify the ends, so on that basis alone I am resigned to being stuck with them.

I'd have thought a mere email with "Fuck off" to her successor would have sufficed.

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Who will die first? Philip or Lemmy from Motörhead.

 

Many did say Lemmy was invincible. I now see a man thin with illness and decades of drink and drug abuse so I think Lemmy may snuff it first.

 

Liz has another 10 years. Big Phil gone in 4.

 

If only there were a competition for the above.

I remember at a place I worked we had a death sweep onThe Pope and the Queen Mother and everyone had a rolling day in the calendar. When QM snuffed it we were on a jolly in Barcelona apart from one miserable git who wouldn't go, so he was forced into the office on a Saturday to find out the winner. Missed it by two days. Was gutted. £400. A death sweep would be good.

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Reekie

 

Is that a metaphor?

 

Anyways, to the OP. You can take your Republicanism and shove it. There are plenty examples as varied as Tony Blair to the Daily Mail why we should never ever give in to Mob rule in this country which is what unfettered republicanism would quickly become. I like her family's parental role towards the country I genuinely do. I accept the lot of them are spoiled as fuck and would quite happily see the extended family reined in but equally we couldn't expect a family living in a council flat in Watford to do the same job.

 

She should be answerable in certain aspects to parliament (not least re expenditure of her lazy bastard family) , in the same way that parliament must remain answerable to her.

Aye it's as the queen would put it

 

One has a smelly Bottom...

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