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As a team currently joint-top of the league, challenging for a title, should we be looking to do better than this? Or have we reached our ceiling? Not sure on the figures, but I'm led to believe our numbers weren't too much better during the glory days of the 80's?

 

 

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Actually, when people talk about match day experience I always think more of the Bundesliga. Cheap tickets, drinking, fan zones. decent food (bbq's cooking bratwursts rather than a pie stuck to tin fo

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Hearts took 1,251 fans to Pittodrie.   Aberdeen took 3,398 fans to Tynecastle.   So whatever their average attendance is, remove 2,147 from it to account for the Dons being by far the greatest team, t

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No, this is common practice in all large businesses and especially in football. The big clubs have got entire departments trying to influence people in the media to write good things about them, to bi

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Pretty sure the Canadian Dons will be interested in this! @@super_al @@Crashnyploshnit @@CalgaryDon

 

As a team currently joint-top of the league, challenging for a title, should we be looking to do better than this? Or have we reached our ceiling? Not sure on the figures, but I'm led to believe our numbers weren't too much better during the glory days of the 80's?

 

 

Celtic's figures are a complete load of bullshit that's for sure. Nearly 45k average ma fkn arse :hysterical:

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Attendance won't improve until we get a new stadium. Pittodrie is fucking shite and the match day experience leaves a lot to be desired. The atmosphere of the ground is pathetic as well. Until we address these issued the attendances just won't go up.

No it won't it will improve for a start but tail off once the fuss is over.

 

We get good crowds if we're playing well or a big game.

 

We get shite crowds when we are playing shite and playing the likes of Hamilton.

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It always amazes me when people moan about scottish football attendences.

 

Perth - Population 47 000 , Average St Johnstone attendance aprox 4,000

Motherwell - Population 30,000 and a dozen miles away from the Ibrox and Parkhead, average attendence 4,600

Dingwall - population 5,491 average Ross county attendence 4,234!

 

These attendances look pretty healthy to me all things considered. How much bigger attendences are people expecting? Where are these extra people supposed to magicaly appear from, especially considering the draw Celtic and Sevco have throughout Scotland?

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That area is massive, not just a "pop down to the game" type size.

 

The highlands are also full of incomers, folk with holiday homes, retirees etc. The point is the same, not that many more people can realistically be expected to go.

 

Our attendences are a bit worse, but we know what aberdeen is like, lots of students, oil and gas people etc. A good proportion of our support are sitting on an oil rig in the north sea on any given matchday.

 

What I think is the main problem with us is the whole " I we're playing Celtic, Rangers, in europe etc so i'll go but were playing Hamilton, Partick, Ross county etc I wont " attitude. Never understood that. Surely as an aberdeen supporter you're there to watch Aberdeen, and games against smaller teams are more likely to result in victory.

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The only team i have read that are worried and obsessed with Attendance is fucking hearts...thats all they go on about....What was their average attendance pre admin ?

 

i would think if we had a admin time that nearly killed us fans would come and support us more every game.

 

Hearts took 1,251 fans to Pittodrie.

 

Aberdeen took 3,398 fans to Tynecastle.

 

So whatever their average attendance is, remove 2,147 from it to account for the Dons being by far the greatest team, the world has ever seen.

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Hearts have higher attendances but it doesnt necessarily mean they have a bigger or more loyal support.

 

Loyalty points - they've been using this for years. Aberdeen have only just started and people are now realising how difficult it is to get tickets for certain games (ie Celtic Park after the split will be a scramble) unless you've built up a certain level of points, so now fans are being encouraged to go more often. A lot though, myself included if I'm honest since I live in Glasgow, elect to build up these points more at away games.

 

Hearts also have a smaller stadium, but it's more popular for home and away fans than Pittodrie. What this means is for the cup game with Hibs for example, only around 13,000 tickets were on sale to Hearts fans. This meant only season ticket holders could buy tickets, and even then some ST holders actually missed out. No surprise then they've sold so many of them, which of course boosts their average attendances against your Hamiltons and Motherwells.

 

That never happens at Pittodrie. There's not that same need to buy a season ticket up front because there will always be 8,000 tickets on sale to non-ST holders for even big home games like Celtic or European games.

 

Be interesting to see what happens to Hearts crowds should they increase the capacity to 20,000 like ourselves and Hibs, but then find themselves not doing much in the league and cups coupled with the excitement around the club at the moment dying down.

 

Likewise, if we continue our upward projectory, build a stadium that's not only more appealing to home fans but starts encouraging bigger away numbers too (Pittodrie is currently seen by many as the worst away day in the Premiership), then we'll see a steady rise.

 

I think for us, in a 21,000 capacity stadium, an average of 15,000 is generally the level we want to be at and we're not far off it.

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Hearts have higher attendances but it doesnt necessarily mean they have a bigger or more loyal support.

Loyalty points - they've been using this for years. Aberdeen have only just started and people are now realising how difficult it is to get tickets for certain games (ie Celtic Park after the split will be a scramble) unless you've built up a certain level of points, so now fans are being encouraged to go more often. A lot though, myself included if I'm honest since I live in Glasgow, elect to build up these points more at away games.

Hearts also have a smaller stadium, but it's more popular for home and away fans than Pittodrie. What this means is for the cup game with Hibs for example, only around 13,000 tickets were on sale to Hearts fans. This meant only season ticket holders could buy tickets, and even then some ST holders actually missed out. No surprise then they've sold so many of them, which of course boosts their average attendances against your Hamiltons and Motherwells.

That never happens at Pittodrie. There's not that same need to buy a season ticket up front because there will always be 8,000 tickets on sale to non-ST holders for even big home games like Celtic or European games.

Be interesting to see what happens to Hearts crowds should they increase the capacity to 20,000 like ourselves and Hibs, but then find themselves not doing much in the league and cups coupled with the excitement around the club at the moment dying down.

Likewise, if we continue our upward projectory, build a stadium that's not only more appealing to home fans but starts encouraging bigger away numbers too (Pittodrie is currently seen by many as the worst away day in the Premiership), then we'll see a steady rise.

I think for us, in a 21,000 capacity stadium, an average of 15,000 is generally the level we want to be at and we're not far off it.

Attendances don't necessarily show your entire support, but Hearts are getting numbers along to their matches, there's only a couple of teams who bring the 2000 plus, Celtic and Aberdeen so they do have a bigger support at the moment.

 

I don't think a new stadium is going to generate much of a change in attendances, does the average football fan go along for the stadium? It's more likely to be the day out, bus/train on away days, having a laugh, beers, food etc. Then you get to the stadium and its the game you care most about, not a shiny stadium. And don't really care if away fans don't like an away day to Aberdeen because we're beating them, fuck them

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Attendances don't necessarily show your entire support, but Hearts are getting numbers along to their matches, there's only a couple of teams who bring the 2000 plus, Celtic and Aberdeen so they do have a bigger support at the moment.

 

I don't think a new stadium is going to generate much of a change in attendances, does the average football fan go along for the stadium? It's more likely to be the day out, bus/train on away days, having a laugh, beers, food etc. Then you get to the stadium and its the game you care most about, not a shiny stadium. And don't really care if away fans don't like an away day to Aberdeen because we're beating them, fuck them

 

Agree that the stadium wouldn't guaranteed higher long terms numbers. We'd probably get an initial bounce for a few years... then we'd tail back off to 13k. If we end up with a stadium out in the burbs, we could even lose fans long term.

 

IMO we should be looking at no more than 20k capacity... with something closer to 18k more ideal. 13k in a 20k stadium is over a third empty - which is far from ideal! A total waste.

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Agree that the stadium wouldn't guaranteed higher long terms numbers. We'd probably get an initial bounce for a few years... then we'd tail back off to 13k. If we end up with a stadium out in the burbs, we could even lose fans long term.

 

IMO we should be looking at no more than 20k capacity... with something closer to 18k more ideal. 13k in a 20k stadium is over a third empty - which is far from ideal! A total waste.

I've mentioned before that I've been to the Vancouver Whitecaps stadium, it's used for multiple sports and other events, they close the top tier for football (soccer matches) because it's not as popular, but they do it in a way that makes the stadium look full. The top tier is blanked off with big banners. Could be done for us for quieter matches? If we get a multi-purpose stadium in there's a few things can be done for generating revenue and it might increase attendances too. Agreed that there's no need for anything more than 20k,

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