Scottish Elections 2016

[Henry]

Likely be another win for the SNP.

 

But check out UKIP's manifesto:

 

Ukip has launched its manifesto for May's Holyrood election. Here are 10 policies that are contained in it:

:: With income tax powers coming to Holyrood, Ukip proposes creating an intermediate rate of 30p, which would apply to those earning between £45,300 and £55,000. The threshold for the 40p tax rate would then be raised to £55,000, with the party also backing increasing the personal allowance to £13,000.

:: Ukip would review all wages and expenses paid to "both senior bureaucrats and politicians to ensure the public are getting value for money from those that represent them".

:: Local councils would be urged to offer at least 30 minutes of free parking in city and town centres, high streets and shopping parades "to encourage shoppers into our centres and boost local business".

:: In a section called "saving the Scottish pub", the Ukip manifesto pledges to increase the drink-driving limit in Scotland to 80mg per 100ml of blood, the same as it is in the rest of the UK, arguing that "having a varied limit makes no sense and 80mg is low enough to deter reckless behaviour".

::The same section of the manifesto says the smoking ban has had "a disastrous effect on sections of the Scottish economy and society" with Ukip proposing pubs and clubs should be allowed to set up separate "properly-ventilated" smoking rooms.

:: The party supports a "proper balance of educational institutions" including both grammar schools and technical schools.

:: The Ukip manifesto promises to "end political correctness in schools and introduce a specific act aimed at banning damaging political propaganda being passed off as fact". It states: "Indoctrination of young minds is wrong. What we must give them is the desire and capacity to think freely for themselves."

:: Ukip supports research into genetically modified (GM) foods and would allow a free vote on their commercial cultivation.

:: Ukip would abolish the named person system being brought in by the Scottish Government and "protect parents rights and family privacy and focus social services on children that need support".

:: Ukip would "review Police Scotland as a concept and investigate its possible break-up into regional police forces".

[Guest milne_afc]

SNP are shit.

 

That'll be my final contribution to the thread.

[vanderark14]

I can't vote in it anyway

 

I'm out

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

 

 

But check out UKIP's manifesto:

 

 

I havent seen the whole UKIP manifesto, but the 10 points you post are all pretty attractive to me.

 

I hope they get a few MSPs via the regional lists, which I think is realistic given they got MEPs elected in Scotland.

 

The establishment are obviously worried given the "UKIP candidate in black face outrage" story in todays papers.

 

I like the libertarian, non-PC, clear-sighted stance of UKIP.

[Poodler]

Harcus, will you be voting James Stockan?

[Clydeside_Sheep]

I can't vote in it anyway

 

 

 

Why not, do you live abroad now?

[Dynamo]

Increasing the drink drive limit and reversing the smoking ban? Truly progressive....

[Henry]

Harcus, will you be voting James Stockan?

 

Of course

[RUL]

I will be voting SNP/Greens, don't know any policies of any party.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Increasing the drink drive limit and reversing the smoking ban? Truly progressive....

 

Progressive a meaningless word in politics. Its generally applied to absurd policies imposed undemocratically in the face of public opinion.

 

I think its sensible to have a standard drink drive limit across the UK, rather than a different one in different zones. Drink driving is unforgivable but there should be some minor limit so people are not unfairly caught "the morning after".

 

And they arent "reversing the smoking ban" but giving people choice. Im totally over the smoking ban myself, but if someone wishes a fag with their pint (and staff are happy to work in such a pub, protected by effective HVAC systems), then why not? I think most places would keep a ban, but surely there is a place for 1 or 2 places in each town where someone could have a smoke? In Europe the ban is widely flouted, why is it only us who follow the rules like a bunch of squares?

 

Of course, these two items were the least important on the list, by some distance.

 

I prefered their stuff on the named person bill, tax, public sector wages etc etc

[Dynamo]

 

Progressive a meaningless word in politics. Its generally applied to absurd policies imposed undemocratically in the face of public opinion.

 

I think its sensible to have a standard drink drive limit across the UK, rather than a different one in different zones. Drink driving is unforgivable but there should be some minor limit so people are not unfairly caught "the morning after".

 

And they arent "reversing the smoking ban" but giving people choice. Im totally over the smoking ban myself, but if someone wishes a fag with their pint (and staff are happy to work in such a pub, protected by effective HVAC systems), then why not? I think most places would keep a ban, but surely there is a place for 1 or 2 places in each town where someone could have a smoke? In Europe the ban is widely flouted, why is it only us who follow the rules like a bunch of squares?

 

Of course, these two items were the least important on the list, by some distance.

 

I prefered their stuff on the named person bill, tax, public sector wages etc etc

 

 

Why did you highlight them then??

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

 

Why did you highlight them then??

 

I didnt

[Dynamo]

 

I didnt

Aye ok Sherlock

[The Boofon]

Is this the same vote as leaving that's UE thing?

[Poodler]

 

Progressive a meaningless word in politics. Its generally applied to absurd policies imposed undemocratically in the face of public opinion.

 

I think its sensible to have a standard drink drive limit across the UK, rather than a different one in different zones. Drink driving is unforgivable but there should be some minor limit so people are not unfairly caught "the morning after".

 

And they arent "reversing the smoking ban" but giving people choice. Im totally over the smoking ban myself, but if someone wishes a fag with their pint (and staff are happy to work in such a pub, protected by effective HVAC systems), then why not? I think most places would keep a ban, but surely there is a place for 1 or 2 places in each town where someone could have a smoke? In Europe the ban is widely flouted, why is it only us who follow the rules like a bunch of squares?

 

Of course, these two items were the least important on the list, by some distance.

 

I prefered their stuff on the named person bill, tax, public sector wages etc etc

We follow the rules because of something much deeper - we have been conditioned to have no voice and no opinion.

 

Revolution

[Henry]

Is this the same vote as leaving that's UE thing?

 

You started the head-wetting early?

 

No this is an election for Holyrood on 5th May.

 

The EU in/out is at the end of June.

[vanderark14]

 

Why not, do you live abroad now?

 

I Moved to englandshire this week

[Bluto10]

I Moved to englandshire this week

LOL

[vanderark14]

LOL

 

I am serious

 

Moved just south of london

[Bluto10]

I am serious

 

Moved just south of london

I am serious

 

Moved just south of london

Strange decision for someone so vocally anti-england\UK

[The Boofon]

I am serious

 

Moved just south of london

Think you're still allowed to vote for UKIP in this then.

[vanderark14]

Think you're still allowed to vote for UKIP in this then.

 

 

 

I doubt I will bother voting in any election when down here

[Chewie37]

Did anyone read after UKIP??

[caledonia]

SNP are shit.

 

That'll be my final contribution to the thread.

 

Labour are a shower of lying bastards

This wont be my last contribution to this thread

[Clydeside_Sheep]

The Green Party have released their manifesto.

 

Apparently they reckon renewable energy can support 200,000 jobs in Scotland.

 

The manifesto plans include a transition to renewable energy and the creation of 200,000 jobs in generation, design and research.

 

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14421263.Election_2016__Greens_bid_for_eight_MSPs_with__Bolder_Holyrood__manifesto_launch/

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ed241136-cab3-11e5-a8ef-ea66e967dd44.html

 

That is about 1 in 17 working age Scots and is 6.5 times the number of jobs which the FT claims the entire UK Offshore industry supports (31,000) and so its obviously complete rubbish.

 

In line with their ethos, they are obviously trying to pitch renewables as something that can fill the economic and employment gap for Scotland, when the oil goes, but these numbers are not to be taken seriously.

 

(I wonder if the paper made a typo and its meant to be 20,000? Though even that would be extremely doubtful)

[Clydeside_Sheep]

 

I Moved to englandshire this week

 

Fuck me, irony overload VDA!

 

I hope you enjoy it down there anyway - will get much better weather than Scotland foir a start!

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Further to my criticism of the greens above, I have now learned they favour the decriminalisation of cannabis.

 

So, maybe they are not all bad.

 

However, its now very clear how they came up with their renewable energy employment numbers

 

Cheeba Cheeba!

[Chewie37]

Labour are a shower of lying bastards

This wont be my last contribution to this thread

Any cunt who goes into politics is generally a useless lying bastard. Or like my exes brother, a tool who thinks he can lecture to people who have far more life experience than a tube who's worked in a politicians office since leaving uni.

 

The Green Party have released their manifesto.

 

Apparently they reckon renewable energy can support 200,000 jobs in Scotland.

 

The manifesto plans include a transition to renewable energy and the creation of 200,000 jobs in generation, design and research.

 

http://www.eveningtimes.co.uk/news/14421263.Election_2016__Greens_bid_for_eight_MSPs_with__Bolder_Holyrood__manifesto_launch/

 

http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/ed241136-cab3-11e5-a8ef-ea66e967dd44.html

 

That is about 1 in 17 working age Scots and is 6.5 times the number of jobs which the FT claims the entire UK Offshore industry supports (31,000) and so its obviously complete rubbish.

 

In line with their ethos, they are obviously trying to pitch renewables as something that can fill the economic and employment gap for Scotland, when the oil goes, but these numbers are not to be taken seriously.

 

(I wonder if the paper made a typo and its meant to be 20,000? Though even that would be extremely doubtful)

It's probably a reasonable figure if you take into account that they will include any tiny job vaguely linked to the renewable industry. I.e. The burger van they get breakfast from in the morning is supported as is the cleaner who does the office etc

[vanderark14]

 

Fuck me, irony overload VDA!

 

I hope you enjoy it down there anyway - will get much better weather than Scotland foir a start!

 

The weather has been great so far cheers.

 

There no irony really, I've nothing against England or the English..............some seem to think I do because I was a big supporter of independence and I'm not a fan of the EPL.

[The Boofon]

 

The weather has been great so far cheers.

 

There no irony really, I've nothing against England or the English..............some seem to think I do because I was a big supporter of independence and I'm not a fan of the EPL.

You taking in any matches now you're down there? Who's the closest club to you?