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dave_min
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31 places. Hearts are catching us.

stirlingsheep
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In club terms, Wales are 50th, because they're shite at club level.   They're high in international team rankings due to their performance in the national team, one doesn't affect the other.   The clu

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Match results don't count in qualifying rounds for club coefficients. They only count for the country coefficient (once you get to group stages match results count for both).   In qualifying rounds, t

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http://www.footballseeding.com/club-ranking/a2016-2017/

 

236 we are in this one.

 

Why have we only gotten .375 this season?

Even at .250 per win we should have .750

 

All very confusssssing

 

Only gets added on once we get knocked out by the looks of it. Us and Celtic both have .375 while Hibs and Hearts have .8750.

 

.375 is how much we would get without even playing in Europe. (even the likes of caley and st.johnstone have this)

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Only gets added on once we get knocked out by the looks of it. Us and Celtic both have .375 while Hibs and Hearts have .8750.

 

.375 is how much we would get without even playing in Europe. (even the likes of caley and st.johnstone have this)

Ah ok. That makes a little more sense. So we are currently on around 1.875 for this season & roughly 6.3(ish) in total

 

A bit shit for Hibs seen as they entered in 2nd round. Would only seem fair if they got additional .375 for avoiding the 1st round

 

Jambos going to take a big hit next season 2.36 off, as are Motherwell

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Heap of absolute pish, hopefully the Champions League gets royally arse fucked when they try to make it invite only. Should get UEFA to fuck and get a couple of decent old school style Euro Cups going in the format of either the old CWC or UEFA and possibly a league variant that doesn't let Champions League drop outs into it. But then again can't see the sponsors letting that happen

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http://www.uefa.com/memberassociations/uefarankings/club/index.html

 

St Johnstone are higher than us.

 

Have we been given all the points we have aquired?

 

Thought it was 0.5 per win.

 

We have more than 4 wins over the last two seasons haven't we?

 

Even worse than I thought if it's only .25 per win.

Match results don't count in qualifying rounds for club coefficients. They only count for the country coefficient (once you get to group stages match results count for both).

 

In qualifying rounds, the points you get are based on what round you get to, plus 20% of the country coefficient.

 

That's why Motherwell had a better seeding than us, simply because they entered in a later round when Scotland's coefficient was higher.

 

At the moment we're gauranteed 1 point for getting to QR3, plus 20% of the country coefficient which is currently 0.375

 

So just now we've earned 1.375 this season, and are the 94th best performing team in Europe for 2016/17 (All four Spanish teams are joint first on 4.457 despite not yet kicking a ball).

 

Worst case scenario: If we were to go out to Maribor, and Scotland didn't pick up any points (we lose home and away to Maribor, Celtic lose home and away to Astana then home and away in the Europa League play-off), our seeding next season would be 6.285. We were 5.460 this season, so we've already improved no matter what we do from now on.

 

6.285 would have been enough for us to be seeded in QR2 this season.

 

We'd likely need a score of over 10 to be seeded for QR3 next season, and around 14 or 15 to be seeded for the playoff round.

 

If we got to the group stage this season, and let's say we had a tough group and were average - winning just once and drawing once, and lost all the rest. We would still have earned 5 points (2 for getting to group stage, 2 for the win, 1 for the draw) + 20% of the Scotland one. Our seeding next season would be over 10. That'd be us seeded for the first three qualifying rounds, plus we'd have likely banked over £3m too.

 

Getting to the group stages really would be fucking massive for us this season.

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Ah ok. That makes a little more sense. So we are currently on around 1.875 for this season & roughly 6.3(ish) in total

 

A bit shit for Hibs seen as they entered in 2nd round. Would only seem fair if they got additional .375 for avoiding the 1st round

 

Jambos going to take a big hit next season 2.36 off, as are Motherwell

They did get extra for avoiding QR1.

 

You get 0.250 for losing in QR1, and 0.500 for QR2. Hearts and Hibs therefore both got 0.500, plus 20% of Scotland's coefficient which is currently 0.375, though likely to rise unless Celtic and Aberdeen don't pick up any more points.

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All designed so they can get the 'big' teams into the European comps, keep the likes of us out and ensure bumper TV deals for the rich clubs and the UEFA officials receiving nice little earners.

 

4 clubs from 1 league in the "Champions" League is a joke. Should just be the winners of each league and a knock out. That doesnt generate enough money though...

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All designed so they can get the 'big' teams into the European comps, keep the likes of us out and ensure bumper TV deals for the rich clubs and the UEFA officials receiving nice little earners.

 

4 clubs from 1 league in the "Champions" League is a joke. Should just be the winners of each league and a knock out. That doesnt generate enough money though...

Will come full circle again eventually when, or if, people switch off.

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Heap of absolute pish, hopefully the Champions League gets royally arse fucked when they try to make it invite only. Should get UEFA to fuck and get a couple of decent old school style Euro Cups going in the format of either the old CWC or UEFA and possibly a league variant that doesn't let Champions League drop outs into it. But then again can't see the sponsors letting that happen

It will become invitation only and they will play the matches all over the world. It will be elitist pish I won't subscribe to.

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Guest the shepherd

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Club rankings.

Who gives a shit.

+1. Do not give two flying fucks about club rankings or the perversed coefficients (who actually knew even the word existed prior to Chick Young jabbering on about it constantly on Radio Scotland?).

Football has been grossly unfair and wholly weighted in the favour of the so-called bigger clubs since the abolition of the ECWC, the introduction of the (non-) Champions League (4th place rule, etc.) and the completely fucked up idea to allow teams knocked out of the Champions League to join the Europa League in the same season.

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Bluto10 Grand Master

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It's not fucked; it's just more like Hollywood entertainment.

Glitzy, glamorous and awash with money.

 

It'll revert to type when there is no longer an audience to feed it.

 

Same with Scottish football. It'll always be about the old firm until folk stop attending the rest of it

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It's not fucked; it's just more like Hollywood entertainment.

Glitzy, glamorous and awash with money.

 

It'll revert to type when there is no longer an audience to feed it.

 

Same with Scottish football. It'll always be about the old firm until folk stop attending the rest of it

Is that why you choose to pass out before kickoff?

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Even at our level, a few extra points up around the 6 or 7 mark can be the difference between playing a seeded side, or non seed in the QR2 as it was with Hearts this season. Nae that that helped them much mind :laughing:

Our target should be to get up into double figures & stay there at least, which would mean 4/5 years in a row in Europe to do that unless we get into the groups this season which would be a real bonus.

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Even at our level, a few extra points up around the 6 or 7 mark can be the difference between playing a seeded side, or non seed in the QR2 as it was with Hearts this season. Nae that that helped them much mind :laughing:

Our target should be to get up into double figures & stay there at least, which would mean 4/5 years in a row in Europe to do that unless we get into the groups this season which would be a real bonus.

At least if we get to the group stages this season or next we are set up better to take advantage of an improved coefficient. Last time was a bit of a flash in the pan, I reckon if we do reach the groups we can repeat it

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