Volkswagen Group Emissions Recalls (Vw / Audi / Skoda / Seat)

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Maybe a long shot, but does anyone own a VW, Audi, Skoda or SEAT which has been recalled for minor mods following the VW-group emissions scandal?

 

The mods carried out depend on what engine you have.

 

If your car has been in for a "fix" have you noticed any negative difference afterwards?

 

I have a Skoda Superb which they are asking me to bring in for a software modification. (I have the EA 189 diesel engine, 170 PS).

 

I thought this was a mere formality, but I have since discovered people online saying dont do it (or at least delay it).

 

Some people are saying it has made their car sluggish, or has had some other undesirable effect.

 

This has made me paranoid, as I suppose it make sense that there must be some kind of compromise involved if they are tinkering to reduce emissions.

 

My Superb is a big, heavy motor - about 2-and-a-quarter tons - but it feels punchy and powerful and I dont want to lose that.

 

Any advice gratefully received, thanks.

 

Edit - the mod isnt obligatory as its not a safety recall. Some people have refused it and thats been fine apparently.

[BWG]

The birds Seat was done and no noticeable difference.

[Guest milne_afc]

"Edit - the mod isnt obligatory as its not a safety recall. Some people have refused it and thats been fine apparently."

 

Just refuse it, then.

 

Next.

[Dal Riata Don]

If you bought a particular motor because you are environmentally conscious and emissions are an important concern to you then get it modified. If not, why would you bother?

[zander]

Car geeks thinking they actually know something won't make any real difference to the cars performance.

 

Just get it done.

[Guest milne_afc]

Cars are for simpletons anyway.

[Bluto10]

I Not at all

I've a tr3, bought it for twelve hundred, did it up and now it's worth three grand

[russellh]

Maybe a long shot, but does anyone own a VW, Audi, Skoda or SEAT which has been recalled for minor mods following the VW-group emissions scandal?

 

The mods carried out depend on what engine you have.

 

If your car has been in for a "fix" have you noticed any negative difference afterwards?

 

I have a Skoda Superb which they are asking me to bring in for a software modification. (I have the EA 189 diesel engine, 170 PS).

 

I thought this was a mere formality, but I have since discovered people online saying dont do it (or at least delay it).

 

Some people are saying it has made their car sluggish, or has had some other undesirable effect.

 

This has made me paranoid, as I suppose it make sense that there must be some kind of compromise involved if they are tinkering to reduce emissions.

 

My Superb is a big, heavy motor - about 2-and-a-quarter tons - but it feels punchy and powerful and I dont want to lose that.

 

Any advice gratefully received, thanks.

 

Edit - the mod isnt obligatory as its not a safety recall. Some people have refused it and thats been fine apparently.

It doesn't weigh 2 1/4 tons unless you are carrying an extra 700kg or so all the time.

[Dynamo]

I Not at all

I've a tr3, bought it for twelve hundred, did it up and now it's worth three grand

 

suspension, new engine.....respray

[zander]

what?

 

if the emissions are too high it is down to a fuel/air ratio being out

 

so if they reduce the fuel percentage to improve emissions, they will obviously affect the performance in a negative fashion

 

don't let logic get in the way of your ill-founded clichéd responses tho - nimrod

The issue was with cheating emissions test. The car had software to cheat emissions test which are carried out at idle not during driving conditions.

 

Well done on reading up on air/fuel ratios in your little Haynes manual though.

[zander]

so if its just something which falsifies a reading, it wont have any effect at all on performance!!

 

and no, Im a capri man remember, know all about fuel/air ratios

 

nimrod

It alters the output of emissions when a car is in test condition. Nae idea what the recall is doing but imagine it will just wipe this out.

 

 

As I said don't believe everything these piston heads say

 

Anyway as you were my car chat days are behind me now.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

The birds Seat was done and no noticeable difference.

 

Cheers mate.

 

Turns out a guy in work has an Audi A6, similar size and engine to my car and he said there was no difference either.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

It doesn't weigh 2 1/4 tons unless you are carrying an extra 700kg or so all the time.

 

You are right, thanks for that, I must have looked at the towing weight or something before - doh!

[Clydeside_Sheep]

If you bought a particular motor because you are environmentally conscious and emissions are an important concern to you

 

Good Lord - road presence and power are all that matter!

[Chewie37]

There's probably some way you could get the ecu reprogrammed anyway if the mod does affect your power noticeably. Just get yer VAG played with

[Ohjimmyjimmy]

. Just get yer VAG played with

FFS, they don't teach that at the Kafflic schools Chewie min...up the bum only.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

FFS, they don't teach that at the Kafflic schools Chewie min...up the bum only.

 

You have got that back to front!

[Clydeside_Sheep]

There's probably some way you could get the ecu reprogrammed anyway if the mod does affect your power noticeably. Just get yer VAG played with

 

Aye, you could get the car remapped but then that is a cost to the owner. (right enough many ppl do it anyway for power and mpg gains. Apparently I could get >200 PS and 450 Nm torque out of that Skoda for a £500 remap).

 

Interestingly this morning I spoke with a mechanic I know - he worked on my vectra for years before I got the skoda.

 

Asked him what he thought of the emissions recall - he said if it was his car, he wouldnt take it in.

 

He said some of his customers have moaned that its changed their cars negatively (to the extent one wants to sell his VW golf) and he is friendly with a lawyer who has a load of cases people are raising against VW group because of this.

 

Probably enough to make me hold off for now and see how all this pans out.

[Chewie37]

FFS, they don't teach that at the Kafflic schools Chewie min...up the bum only.

Oh dear

 

[mountainman]

Maybe a long shot, but does anyone own a VW, Audi, Skoda or SEAT which has been recalled for minor mods following the VW-group emissions scandal?

 

The mods carried out depend on what engine you have.

 

If your car has been in for a "fix" have you noticed any negative difference afterwards?

 

I have a Skoda Superb which they are asking me to bring in for a software modification. (I have the EA 189 diesel engine, 170 PS).

 

I thought this was a mere formality, but I have since discovered people online saying dont do it (or at least delay it).

 

Some people are saying it has made their car sluggish, or has had some other undesirable effect.

 

This has made me paranoid, as I suppose it make sense that there must be some kind of compromise involved if they are tinkering to reduce emissions.

 

My Superb is a big, heavy motor - about 2-and-a-quarter tons - but it feels punchy and powerful and I dont want to lose that.

 

Any advice gratefully received, thanks.

 

Edit - the mod isnt obligatory as its not a safety recall. Some people have refused it and thats been fine apparently.

Just ignore it. So long as you own the car and it isn't leased you're fine. I've been getting hounded with letters for months. Each time the letters say the 'fix' won't effect the cars performance. Ok, if it won't effect the cars performance why did VW feel the need to cheat in the first place? The obviously cheated to gain ground somewhere.

[Chewie37]

Please edit that to affect, it's making my OCD bubble

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Just ignore it. So long as you own the car and it isn't leased you're fine. I've been getting hounded with letters for months. Each time the letters say the 'fix' won't effect the cars performance. Ok, if it won't effect the cars performance why did VW feel the need to cheat in the first place? The obviously cheated to gain ground somewhere.

 

Thats what I did ultimately - phoned back and cancelled the appt.

 

I said I had come across credible info that at least some vehicles had been negatively affected by the "fix".

 

They accepted this immediately, without question or comment.

[a don in oz]

Was it only diesels that they were screwing about with? I've heard the 2l and 3l diesels mentioned.

 

Honestly not really cared that much because I reckon all the car manufacturers are at it. Certainly hasn't stopped me ordering my first VAG car - also a Superb - at all. 2l turbo petrol though, not diesel. The 162kW one.

[Clydeside_Sheep]

Was it only diesels that they were screwing about with? I've heard the 2l and 3l diesels mentioned.

 

Honestly not really cared that much because I reckon all the car manufacturers are at it. Certainly hasn't stopped me ordering my first VAG car - also a Superb - at all. 2l turbo petrol though, not diesel. The 162kW one.

 

I don't know mate, but I wouldn't be surprised if its just diesels as they produce a lot of the nasty gases NOx etc. But if you have just ordered then I am sure it will be AOK, regardless of the fuel type (they wouldn't continue to sell them with the cheat software after the scandal has broken).

 

The Superbs are well named. Great cars, I will have mine for years but already thinking of the one after haha!

 

162 kW = ~220 PS = awesome! You will definitely enjoy it. My diesel has 170 PS and it goes like stink! I am definitely thinking of a remap (can get it up to approx 210 PS and 450 Nm torque), maybe some other tweaks too (suspension).

 

(Mine is a Mk2 - 2011 - but if you have ordered a Mk3 then it will be so much better!).

 

Enjoy!

[a don in oz]

Yeah it's current model, MKIII MY17 on a boat right now, landing on the 30th. I am getting massively impatient waiting for it because originally I was supposed to have it before Christmas.

 

It's in a really nice but stupidly named colour "Lava blue" in the wagon/estate.

 

In Oz it seems only the "top 3" of the range are being sold there, completely different model/names to the UK but they are mine (the bottom of the range!)

 

162TSI (2l 162kW petrol - Golf GTI engine) with DSG 6 speed, wet - so none of the 7 speed dry problems

140TDI (2l 140kW diesel) with DSG 6 speed wet

206TSI (2l 206kW 4x4 petrol - Golf R engine) again DSG 6

 

 

The bottom two are loaded with toys and there are option packs to make them even more so.

 

So I got the 162TSI Wagon with Tech Pack and Comfort Pack which means it has stuff on it I didn't think you'd get on a non-autonomous car like "Traffic Jam Assist" (which I think is a Bosch feature on a few top end VAG cars) which will follow the traffic in city speed traffic for you, braking, accelerating and steering to standstill even.

 

But yeah, my first VAG. First European car in fact. Had in UK (Nissan, Toyota, Nissan) and here (Toyota, Ford, Ford, Hyundai) and now the Skoda.

 

Looking forward to setting my mood lighting up heh. And learning how to use all the features. Probably will end up the first car I'll ever have read the manual on.

 

Also will be the fastest car I've personally owned (because speed has never been a big thing for me). The one I've got is 0-100kmh in 6.9s so it'll be plenty fast enough for me. Slightly faster than my previous fastest car, my Ford Falcon but with 2 less cylinders and half the engine capacity.

[Redstar]

A new low for the site...two weel ken't spangles discussing the merits of their "bottom of the range" Skodas...living the dream lads...living the dream...

[Chewie37]

A new low for the site...two weel ken't spangles discussing the merits of their "bottom of the range" Skodas...living the dream lads...living the dream...

Better reading than some of the pish being spouted on the thread formerly known as Paris

[a don in oz]

Heh. I will have to learn to live with your scorn, Redstar. I'll probably squeeze that in while evacuating my bowels later.

 

Nice car to be in of course and 5 year warranty as standard is a nice differentiator - over here anyway - to the other VAG cars. That and the less price for more stuff.