craegDAMH Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 A huge revenue opportunity for the business that is a football club is identifying young talent, developing it and selling it. AFC has been very weak in this. McInnes is not bucking this shameful trend. He's promoted Wright and McKenna to the first team and extended their contracts long term. We weren't doing that with our youth players before McInnes came along. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Maddison was class even when we had him. McInnes benched him wrongly, including for the first half v. the scum when he came in and win the game with that free kick. The specific debate was Wright. The wider debate is youth at AFC and under McInnes. Have a nice day. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 You're just chatting absolute nonsense.Literally apples and oranges.What relevance does ex Hun David Templeton have to Scott wright and the wider point of McInnes and youth.Come on oh sage one, educate me...AFC let him go. Willie Miller was DoF. He was told he was too small. There you go oh ignorant mutant one, you’re educated now. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 A non-AFC player winning an award may be a fact, but it's an irrelevant one.Another who knows fuck all. Link to comment
zander Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 AFC let him go. Willie Miller was DoF. He was told he was too small. There you go oh ignorant mutant one, you’re educated now.Like every other lad who was let go by AFC around that time he was deemed not good enough nothing to do with him being too small as you put it. He played in the same youth side at Aberdeen as Bebo and Paton both of whom were ahead of him at the time and went on to appear in our first team. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Like every other lad who was let go by AFC around that time he was deemed not good enough nothing to do with him being too small as you put it.He played in the same youth side at Aberdeen as Bebo and Paton both of whom were ahead of him at the time and went on to appear in our first team.Being too small is what Templeton was told by us. He told a hun couple I know this a couple of years ago at Ibrox. The Sunday Times had an article about him in late 2007. Him being released for reason of being too small was quoted in the article. You say it was nothing to do with too small. You say he wasnt good enough. Why did you contradict facts? Why did you just post pure shite from your imagination? Youre clapping happily. Ill leave you to it. Link to comment
dave_min Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Another who knows fuck all.Go on. Enlighten me then. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Go on. Enlighten me then.“Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in” Goodfellas > The Sopranos I’m here to educate you? Educate yourself. Read the posts. Link to comment
boboisared Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Ok, our manager knows what he’s doing because of this fact. Jeez. Templeton just won POTM, beating AFC in the process. Our club has a diseased record with youth. That’s not a position. It’s fact.When did Templeton beat us? Link to comment
The Hulk Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 David Templeton chat is completely irrelevant if we're talking about Scott Wright and youth under Derek McInnes. In saying that, it's worth keeping tabs on him as he's available on a pre-contract next month. Scott Wright has bags of talent and has shown in spells what he is capable of. He is still learning the game, his positional awareness and game intelligence needs alot of work but that will come. It seems to me that he's being instructed to play in a more disciplined way; he's played very deep in a couple of games this season. This is likely the cause of a bit less end product; maybe he needs to be allowed to play with a bit more freedom. And yet it's not only Wright that is guilty of this; I've thought all season we're playing in front of teams too much and in the final third our creative players need to loosen the shackles quite a bit. Wright and Ross have big futures at AFC; I believe the latter will be a regular next season. Link to comment
zander Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Being too small is what Templeton was told by us. He told a hun couple I know this a couple of years ago at Ibrox. The Sunday Times had an article about him in late 2007. Him being released for reason of being too small was quoted in the article. You say it was nothing to do with too small. You say he wasn’t good enough. You’re clapping happily. I’ll leave you to it.A hun you know told you? Sounds about right. I listed Paton and Bebo as two players, because I know someone else who played in that team who was also let go by AFC in the end. Probably one of the only guys who hasn't claimed he was released for being too small. Templeton wasn't good enough at the time. Not sure what the Willie Miller being DOF has to do it with it? Templeton was released before he turned pro. Link to comment
dave_min Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Just when I thought I was out, they pull me back in Goodfellas > The Sopranos Im here to educate you? Educate yourself. Read the posts.I did and I found you criticising McInnes for the Dons releasing a "too small" player 6 years before he joined the club. Personally I found that not to be particularly relevent to McInnes not giving game time to the dross that came through our youth ranks the last few years. I'm willing to be educated otherwise, so fire in. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 When did Templeton beat us?Pedantry. 2-2. He got the equaliser. Logan bottled it. Should have scored in first half too. Another embarrassing result. Link to comment
BWG Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 Never really subscribed to this idea that McInnes doesn't give youth a chance. He's given plenty a chance but the only one who's convincingly taken is so far has been McKenna. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 A hun you know told you? Sounds about right. I listed Paton and Bebo as two players, because I know someone else who played in that team who was also let go by AFC in the end. Probably one of the only guys who hasn't claimed he was released for being too small. Templeton wasn't good enough at the time. Not sure what the Willie Miller being DOF has to do it with it? Templeton was released before he turned pro. I saw Templeton aged 16 playing for Stenny. He was brilliant. He WAS told he was too small. The hun couple have been ST at Ibrox for 35 years. They had no reason to lie. The Sunday Times said it too, presumably because he told the reporter. How many other Scottish 16 year olds get an article dedicated to them in the Sunday Times. He was a cracking prospect. We didn’t see this. It is relevant if the debate is AFC and youth. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Maddison was class even when we had him. McInnes benched him wrongly, including for the first half v. the scum when he came in and win the game with that free kick. The specific debate was Wright. The wider debate is youth at AFC and under McInnes. Have a nice day.When Maddison stopped getting a game then fucked off we started playing better actually. Christie came in and performed better. Link to comment
zander Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I saw Templeton aged 16 playing for Stenny. He was brilliant. He WAS told he was too small. The hun couple have been ST at Ibrox for 35 years. They had no reason to lie. The Sunday Times said it too, presumably because he told the reporter. How many other Scottish 16 year olds get an article dedicated to them in the Sunday Times. He was a cracking prospect. We didn’t see this. It is relevant if the debate is AFC and youth.What a upset little boy tells his pals when he gets dumped and what happened is two different things. He didn't get much of a look in here, our youth team perhaps missed his talent but the too small thing is just a convenient excuse. There are plenty duffers playing juniors and amateurs now who will tell you they were released by us for "being too sma" the difference being Templeton worked hard and bounced back they never. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I did and I found you criticising McInnes for the Dons releasing a "too small" player 6 years before he joined the club.Personally I found that not to be particularly relevent to McInnes not giving game time to the dross that came through our youth ranks the last few years.I'm willing to be educated otherwise, so fire in.I’m not here to educate you. You took one line and twisted it. I didn’t blame McInnes for Templeton. I said we had a diseased record with youth. You didn’t even know we released Templeton. Or maybe you’re bored and just like trolling? Fuck knows. Who cares. As you were. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What a upset little boy tells his pals when he gets dumped and what happened is two different things. He didn't get much of a look in here, our youth team perhaps missed his talent but the too small thing is just a convenient excuse.There are plenty duffers playing juniors and amateurs now who will tell you they were released by us for "being too sma" the difference being Templeton worked hard and bounced back they never. It is lazy, not convenient to fail to conduct exit interviews professionally. Link to comment
boboisared Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Pedantry. 2-2. He got the equaliser. Logan bottled it. Should have scored in first half too. Another embarrassing result.You can claim pedantry but then again you shouldn't have went on to post this: "If you dont know the subject, if you dont know the history, if you dont know what youre talking about, why would you be confused?" Templeton has flattered to deceive over the course of his career. One great month at Hamilton doesn't change the fact he would not have been good enough for us at any point over McInnes tenure. Would things have been different if we had him break through in to our first team? Probably not as he could not wait to leave Hearts and join Rangers at the first sniff, setting his career back years. Link to comment
BWG Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 You can claim pedantry but then again you shouldn't have went on to post this: "If you dont know the subject, if you dont know the history, if you dont know what youre talking about, why would you be confused?" Templeton has flattered to deceive over the course of his career. One great month at Hamilton doesn't change the fact he would not have been good enough for us at any point over McInnes tenure. Would things have been different if we had him break through in to our first team? Probably not as he could not wait to leave Hearts and join Rangers at the first sniff, setting his career back years. Why is Templeton suddenly the fucking benchmark for the level of players we should be aspiring to produce anyway? Link to comment
The Hulk Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What a upset little boy tells his pals when he gets dumped and what happened is two different things. He didn't get much of a look in here, our youth team perhaps missed his talent but the too small thing is just a convenient excuse. There are plenty duffers playing juniors and amateurs now who will tell you they were released by us for "being too sma" the difference being Templeton worked hard and bounced back they never. Correct in its entirety. I coach a kids team and one of my boys has recently had trials with an AFC Development team. His feet are magnificent, his work-rate is fantastic and his attitude is superb. He was apparently pulled out because he was "being pushed off the ball". Did the coaches say he is not "physically aggressive enough", did they say he "hides after he's been pushed off the ball", or did they say "he's too small"? Point being; it is down to interpretation and how you bounce back from it. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 VERY well playedIt was indeed. Excellent post f n d. I missed this one in amongst all the noise. ^ Holy fuck. Check that one. Nobody is saying Templeton is the benchmark. That mutant can’t even read properly. Link to comment
BWG Posted December 13, 2017 Author Share Posted December 13, 2017 It was indeed. Excellent post f n d. I missed this one in amongst all the noise. ^ Holy fuck. Check that one. Nobody is saying Templeton is the benchmark. That mutant can’t even read properly. It's barely past twelve o'clock and you're having yet another fucking meltdown on a forum. Have a think about that pal. Link to comment
Old Wing Stand Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 I saw Templeton aged 16 playing for Stenny. He was brilliant. He WAS told he was too small. The hun couple have been ST at Ibrox for 35 years. They had no reason to lie. The Sunday Times said it too, presumably because he told the reporter. How many other Scottish 16 year olds get an article dedicated to them in the Sunday Times. He was a cracking prospect. We didn’t see this. It is relevant if the debate is AFC and youth.Hun season ticket holders and the press bastions of honesty also Hun and truth in the same sentence lol Link to comment
mcdougall(4) Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 AFC let him go. Willie Miller was DoF. He was told he was too small. There you go oh ignorant mutant one, youre educated now.What has that got to do with ANYTHING discussed here.We let Shaun Maloney go too. Less of the name calling though might help your argument Link to comment
ShinnieFGS Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Rocket Scientist, you've had an absolute shocker. Link to comment
The Hulk Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Rocket Scientist, you've had an absolute shocker. Rocket got released from the debating society as a youngster for being too shy. Link to comment
Guest Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 What has that got to do with ANYTHING discussed here.We let Shaun Maloney go too.Less of the name calling though might help your argumentOut of context again. Twisting the record. If you read the post that that was responding to, it was a direct insult from him, mirrored back. Who gives a fuck? There is - was - a debate but like everything else unfortunately, people can’t read nor think with clarity. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted December 13, 2017 Share Posted December 13, 2017 Saying McInnes doesnt give youth a chance is absolute nonsense. Seemingly he played Ross and Harvie because it was his last game....yet he started Ross last Friday when he didnt have to. He changed it at half time and unfortunately for Ross he had to make way but the change swung the game in our favour. McInnes didnt have to play McKenna against Motherwell. He took his chance and got rewarded. Wright has been rewarded after a few good performances but has tailed off a bit because hes inconsistent and young. Other youngsters to play under McInnes but havent took their chance include Shankland, Murray, Rose and Smith. Link to comment
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