beaudandy Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Recent comments and observations on Jimmy Calderwood got me thinking where he stands in the league table of Dons managers. I go back to the Tommy Pearson days so since then I would rate our managers as follows.1. Alex Ferguson2. Eddie Turnbull3.Derek McInnes4.Alex Smith5.Jimmy Calderwood Close run thing between Smith and Calderwood but Smith won trophies. Also Derek seriously pushing Turnbull for second. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Billy McNeil shold be in there and the Scott/Smith co-management team is definitely top 3 imho. Who was the last non-of team to win the cup double? Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 No Ally McLeod? And Milne it would have been us 89/90 season. Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 No Ally McLeod? And Milne it would have been us 89/90 season.Soz min, I meant before that. Has it even been done? Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Soz min, I meant before that. Has it even been done?Oh right I see. Actually not sure then, probably going back a fair while then Link to comment
Guest milne_afc Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Obviously we did it in 85/86 and I never forgot about that. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Top spot obviously Sir AlexNext harder - probably Turnbull then I'd put McNeillthen McInnes fifth'd be McLeod and thenSmith the rest then Alex Millerthen bottom - McGoo 1 Link to comment
Dal Riata Don Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Played some good football under Willie Miller and Ian Porterfield as well. I'd hae them afore the likes of JC and, honestly speaking DM [at this stage]. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Played some good football under Willie Miller and Ian Porterfield as well. I'd hae them afore the likes of JC and, honestly speaking DM [at this stage]. Have to look at how the squad developed under the managers - McNeill moved what McLeod had started to the next level and Fergie moved it on further - Turnbull took our club forward greatly with what he did and given where we were McInnes has done well - Miller and Porterfield had good squads to begin with as I recall - not sure they pushed them further. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not sure I'd have McInnes above Smith not yet anyway. Smith won two trophies and was less than 90 minutes away from winning the league in a tougher era. Link to comment
Crossbow Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Not sure I'd have McInnes above Smith not yet anyway. Smith won two trophies and was less than 90 minutes away from winning the league in a tougher era.Might need to add in Jocky Scott to that assessment as Smith's team deteriorated once Scott not in the frame - era may have been tougher but players and pulling power also considerably better. Would I take Smith over McInnes today - don't think so though having assembled the squad he now has it is certainly up to him to do something positive with it this year. Link to comment
shut up meg Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Dave Halliday was the manager when we won the league in 1955 and Scottish Cup in 1947.I would say that the above would make him top 5 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Recent comments and observations on Jimmy Calderwood got me thinking where he stands in the league table of Dons managers. I go back to the Tommy Pearson days so since then I would rate our managers as follows.1. Alex Ferguson2. Eddie Turnbull3.Derek McInnes4.Alex Smith5.Jimmy Calderwood Close run thing between Smith and Calderwood but Smith won trophies. Also Derek seriously pushing Turnbull for second.Smith light years ahead of Calderwood. I'd even argue that McNeill made a greater contribution than Calderwood even though it was only for one season. Willie Miller's 92-93 season probably tops anything Calderwood did. Ally Mcleods league cup also can't be discounted. Link to comment
WA_Don Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 In my life time (89-present day, only remember 94 onwards) 1. Dmc (clear by a country mile) 2. Ebbe 3. Tango man 4. Gwt 5. Aitken (only for the lc win) Link to comment
Crashnyploshnit Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Turnbull was a forward thinking manager that really changed the way we trained and played and won the Scottish cup as well as coming second in the league. He has to be for me second after Fergie. Halliday won the league in the 50's so he must also be included at no. 3. I would say McInnes just makes no. 5 at present with MacLeod at no. 4. Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Turnbull was a forward thinking manager that really changed the way we trained and played and won the Scottish cup as well as coming second in the league. He has to be for me second after Fergie. Halliday won the league in the 50's so he must also be included at no. 3. I would say McInnes just makes no. 5 at present with MacLeod at no. 4.The King speaking about Turnbull & Macleod on the Stand Free DVD shows everything you need to know about the respect the players had for them. Link to comment
BWG Posted August 19, 2017 Share Posted August 19, 2017 Best: 1. Sir Alex Ferguson2. Eddie Turnbull3. Jocky Scott/Alex Smith4. Derek McInnes5. Ally MacLeod Honourable mentions: McNeil, W. Miller, Halliday, Worst: 1. McGhee2. A. Miller3. Aitken4. Paterson5. GWT Dishonourable mentions: Almost every cunt since Willie Miller up to Deek. 2 Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The King speaking about Turnbull & Macleod on the Stand Free DVD shows everything you need to know about the respect the players had for them.I'm confused? That DVD was released in 2002 but The King didn't arrive until 2004. 1 Link to comment
Zeus Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Going to have to dig out that DVD. Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 I'm confused? That DVD was released in 2002 but The King didn't arrive until 2004.I knew it wouldn't be long before you made that comment ha ha The King = Joe Harper Just to clarify Link to comment
Daz the Don Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Best:1. Sir Alex Ferguson2. Eddie Turnbull3. Jocky Scott/Alex Smith4. Derek McInnes5. Ally MacLeodHonourable mentions: McNeil, W. Miller, Halliday, Worst:1. McGhee2. A. Miller3. Aitken4. Paterson5. GWTDishonourable mentions: Almost every cunt since Willie Miller up to Deek.Pretty much this, but would swap Aitken for Hegarty. Aitken was pretty awful but he did oversee a League Cup Semi win v Rangers and the subsequent final to land a trophy. Link to comment
OddJob Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Pretty much this, but would swap Aitken for Hegarty.Aitken was pretty awful but he did oversee a League Cup Semi win v Rangers and the subsequent final to land a trophy.Tbh harsh on Hegarty as he had to pick up the pieces of Millers tenure and the players were shite and didn't give a fuck anyway so he had no chance really Link to comment
cruzcampo3 Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The king getting no respect for the time he was here was a different era in Scottish football. He saved us from the drunk highlander who was destroying our club. Link to comment
Daz the Don Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Tbh harsh on Hegarty as he had to pick up the pieces of Millers tenure and the players were shite and didn't give a fuck anyway so he had no chance reallyMaybe, I can only remember us being truly awful in that period so any manager associated with it "deserves" a mention. Link to comment
ebbe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 1. Skovdahl2. Ferguson3. McInnes Link to comment
ebbe Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 The fat bronzed Hun imbosile strolls in at 53. Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 This is what calderwood was the king of https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ry4iwzS4Na0He was certainly King of getting us firstly TO th group stages but then THROUGH the elusive group stages. All whilst winning 1 game. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 Recent comments and observations on Jimmy Calderwood got me thinking where he stands in the league table of Dons managers. I go back to the Tommy Pearson days so since then I would rate our managers as follows.1. Alex Ferguson2. Eddie Turnbull3.Derek McInnes4.Alex Smith5.Jimmy Calderwood Close run thing between Smith and Calderwood but Smith won trophies. Also Derek seriously pushing Turnbull for second. Marvellous revisionism.Just because he's announced he may be deed soon does not a better manager make. Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted August 20, 2017 Share Posted August 20, 2017 To be fair to Calderwood that European run in 2008 was impressive when you look at the calibre of teams we knocked out regardless of only winning one game. Dnipro were clear favourites to beat us and from memory had seven Ukrainian internationalists in their side. To finish above the Moscow side and FC Copenhagen in the group stage was good going we were clearly perceived as being the weakest side in the group (Copenhagen had played in the CL stages the season before beating Celtic 3-1 at home). To beat them 4-0 was a tremendous result as was the 2-2 draw at home to Bayern Munich especially when you look at the quality of players they had on show that night. It's probably the most impressive European run of a non old firm Scottish club side that I can remember for many a year. Yes it was hardly earth shattering stuff but it's still the best European run we have had in recent times. But regardless no way would should Calderwood be mentioned as one of our top 5 managers. Link to comment
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