Hampden Debate

[fine-n-dandy]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5181409/SFA-board-member-insists-Scotland-quit-Hampden-Park.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5181437/Macpherson-Neutral-Hampden-national-symbol-unity.html

 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/15774267.Steven_Thompson__Fergus_McCann_has_a_point_but_Hampden_has_to_stay/

 

 

My preference is Murrayfield. Not just because I live in Edinburgh but for many more reasons.

 

1. (& most importantly) Glasgow is a shit hole full of shit heads

2.. Murrayfield is a far better stadium than Hampden, not just the capacity but access & surroundings also

3.. travel in & around is far better than the mad rush & chance of missing kickoffs if you have the slightest fk up in plan. Plan B's to get to Hampden is few & far between unless lucky with taxis. Where as Edinburgh most places are within reasonable walking distance of stadium, or you have plenty buses (especially the airport route if in town) & equally the trams now.

4..NO MORE 'arse cheek ends'

5.. It's far more neutral for most teams that will meet the arse cheeks in a semi/final

6..None of the arse cheeks get paid for use of their ground, if (which is very likely) it is to be shared between their two shitholes & they also don't get their pitch surfaced for free.

7..You can drink in the street prior to & after games. Especially great when fine weather.

8.. Less nasil weegie accents to deal with byraway big man n aw that

9..The nights out after. Especially better if our/your team has just played an arse cheek & the majority have fkd off back to the weege & you can get on with your night with less of the arse cheek cunts around.

 

Feel free to add your own, or deny my reasons

 

 

[The Boofon]

The middle article shows all that is wrong with Scottish football.

 

"Murrayfield, of course, as an attractive alternative, sits there like a well-off suitor allowing other surrogates to pop the question for it.

Without wishing to cast a slur on that famous fixture, an Old Firm cup final in the capital would be as welcome to the constabulary there as the Ebola virus. Fine stadium, wrong idea."

The constabulary in Glasgow lap it up then do they? Fucking arsehole.

Murrayfield would be the best solution.

Won't happen though.

[fine-n-dandy]

Will also add

 

10.. They have to spend more giro money just to get to the games & have to suffer the train travel (to a lesser extent tbf) that we all have had to over the years. This however will be one of their biggest arguments for the national stadium not moving out of the weege... because celtic are always in the semi/finals so shouldn't be made to travel so much

[fine-n-dandy]

 

The middle article shows all that is wrong with Scottish football.

 

"Murrayfield, of course, as an attractive alternative, sits there like a well-off suitor allowing other surrogates to pop the question for it.

Without wishing to cast a slur on that famous fixture, an Old Firm cup final in the capital would be as welcome to the constabulary there as the Ebola virus. Fine stadium, wrong idea."

The constabulary in Glasgow lap it up then do they? Fucking arsehole.

Murrayfield would be the best solution.

Won't happen though.

 

I agree it will never happen. Mostly because of the corruption & their power/influence over the game here.

 

The debate (that will never be anything but one sided) will help to highlight just how corrupt they are once again though, so I welcome the debate from that point.

 

It's all pointless I know. As we all know that it is always going to end with a ground share between those cunts

[RAZOR]

 

The middle article shows all that is wrong with Scottish football.

 

"Murrayfield, of course, as an attractive alternative, sits there like a well-off suitor allowing other surrogates to pop the question for it.

Without wishing to cast a slur on that famous fixture, an Old Firm cup final in the capital would be as welcome to the constabulary there as the Ebola virus. Fine stadium, wrong idea."

The constabulary in Glasgow lap it up then do they? Fucking arsehole.

Murrayfield would be the best solution.

Won't happen though.

Aye. Awful piece written of course by staunch Hun Archie McPherson. Scottish Fitba will never move on.

[V for Vendetta]

murrayfield is best option for me.

 

If it has to be a ground share arrangement then the only way to make it remotely fair would be for something written into the Sfa constitution to ensure games are spread around a list of suitable grounds, not just the Glasgow 2.

 

None of this SFA discression bullshit.

[Ernie McCracken]

Knock hampden down and build a stadium with a capacity of 30-35,000.

 

This could handle games between the likes of Aberdeen, hearts, hibs and united.

 

For bigger games we have ibrox, Celtic Park and Murrayfield.

 

For smaller games we have tynecastle, Easter road and potentially Kingsford.

 

Sorted.

[shut up meg]

If it's good enough for France to share a ground for rugby and football then it should be good for us.

Murrayfield is a great stadium with better facilities.

[dave_min]

Hampden is shite.

[shut up meg]

Hampden is shite.

 

Yep, only half the seats in the stadium give you a good view, it's a fucking murder place to get in and out of (left Aberdeen at 2pm for the Poland game and walked in just after the kick off) and it's never been a true neutral venue.

 

Move it to Edinburgh and if the cheek fans can't behave on their way through to the capitol for semi-finals and finals then chuck them out of the competition.

[V for Vendetta]

 

Yep, only half the seats in the stadium give you a good view, it's a fucking murder place to get in and out of (left Aberdeen at 2pm for the Poland game and walked in just after the kick off) and it's never been a true neutral venue.

 

Move it to Edinburgh and if the cheek fans can't behave on their way through to the capitol for semi-finals and finals then chuck them out of the competition.

Spot on.

 

However the myopic self serving blazers running our game will never let the games be played in Edinburgh. Doesnt suit their agenda.

[Tord31]

pretty sure this is all just chat to drive down the rental costs of hampden. would be very surprised if we left queens park high and dry

 

i like hampden but would vote get rid due to aberdeen shit record and that scotland rarely fill it

[RAZOR]

pretty sure this is all just chat to drive down the rental costs of hampden. would be very surprised if we left queens park high and dry

 

i like hampden but would vote get rid due to aberdeen shit record and that scotland rarely fill it

What do you like about it?

[Dunty]

Murrayfield is not a long term solution though. Wasn't that impressed when was there for Hearts/Aberdeen. Sight lines weren't great, food kiosks were overly expensive and they had just four of them serving 7,000 fans.

 

I think we should be using Murrayfield more, definitely, and both Aberdeen's semi-finals last season would have been better there, but still think there's some use for Hampden. If Aberdeen can raise private investment for Kingsford can the SFA not do the same and redevelop Hampden?

[Dunty]

What do you like about it?

Can't answer for Tord, but the main and north stands are good, there's some decent bars nearby. It's walkable from city centre.

 

The two stands behind the goals are the problem, and the fact it's rubbish as a semi venue because it's all one tier which is fine if full, but a crowd of 30,000 can get lost in it (Celtic Park & Murrayfield they could just use lower decks, though they managed to fuck that up at Ibrox when we played St Johnstone).

[V for Vendetta]

pretty sure this is all just chat to drive down the rental costs of hampden. would be very surprised if we left queens park high and dry

 

i like hampden but would vote get rid due to aberdeen shit record and that scotland rarely fill it

Hampden is not wholly owned by queens park though so I dont see how this can drive down rental costs when the Sfa are basically renting it from themselves.

 

Also not sure how it leaves Queens Park high and dry or indeed why that should be a factor in the decision.

[aberdeen1970]

Call me a cynic but I have a feeling Parkhead and Ibrox will end up being rotated for internationals and cup finals. And Ibrox repairs will end up being paid for from sfa revenue.

 

Hope I'm pleasantly surprised though.

[RAZOR]

Call me a cynic but I have a feeling Parkhead and Ibrox will end up being rotated for internationals and cup finals. And Ibrox repairs will end up being paid for from sfa revenue.

 

Hope I'm pleasantly surprised though.

You're a cynic.

[aberdeen1970]

You're a cynic.

Unfortunately you're right.

[maryhilldon]

Boycott the scottish cup semis/finals and scotland games if this turns out to be the case. Fuck contributing to the huns repairs. Fuck the sfa.

[The Buzzard]

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5181409/SFA-board-member-insists-Scotland-quit-Hampden-Park.html

 

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-5181437/Macpherson-Neutral-Hampden-national-symbol-unity.html

 

http://www.heraldscotland.com/sport/15774267.Steven_Thompson__Fergus_McCann_has_a_point_but_Hampden_has_to_stay/

 

 

My preference is Murrayfield. Not just because I live in Edinburgh but for many more reasons.

 

1. (& most importantly) Glasgow is a shit hole full of shit heads

2.. Murrayfield is a far better stadium than Hampden, not just the capacity but access & surroundings also

3.. travel in & around is far better than the mad rush & chance of missing kickoffs if you have the slightest fk up in plan. Plan B's to get to Hampden is few & far between unless lucky with taxis. Where as Edinburgh most places are within reasonable walking distance of stadium, or you have plenty buses (especially the airport route if in town) & equally the trams now.

4..NO MORE 'arse cheek ends'

5.. It's far more neutral for most teams that will meet the arse cheeks in a semi/final

6..None of the arse cheeks get paid for use of their ground, if (which is very likely) it is to be shared between their two shitholes & they also don't get their pitch surfaced for free.

7..You can drink in the street prior to & after games. Especially great when fine weather.

8.. Less nasil weegie accents to deal with byraway big man n aw that

9..The nights out after. Especially better if our/your team has just played an arse cheek & the majority have fkd off back to the weege & you can get on with your night with less of the arse cheek cunts around.

 

Feel free to add your own, or deny my reasons

 

 

Is No.7 correct? I thought it was a no-no to drink in the streets in town.

[shut up meg]

In Edinburgh you can due to the festival and new year.

[mcdougall(4)]

In Edinburgh you can due to the festival and new year.

There's allowances made but you can't wander around drinking no. Like you can't leave the designated areas with a drink in those periods same with the Xmas market etc

They won't be for football fans

[shut up meg]

There's allowances made but you can't wander around drinking no. Like you can't leave the designated areas with a drink in those periods same with the Xmas market etc

They won't be for football fans

 

I thought I read somewhere that there was too much administration involved in applying for special licences for the festival and the new year celebrations that they decided to not ban drink on the street.

Very rarely in Edinburgh so I could be speaking shite.

[Old Wing Stand]

Murrayfield is not a long term solution though. Wasn't that impressed when was there for Hearts/Aberdeen. Sight lines weren't great, food kiosks were overly expensive and they had just four of them serving 7,000 fans.

I think we should be using Murrayfield more, definitely, and both Aberdeen's semi-finals last season would have been better there, but still think there's some use for Hampden. If Aberdeen can raise private investment for Kingsford can the SFA not do the same and redevelop Hampden?

Was thinking the same about Murrayfield bit far from the action in the stand behind the goals, the catering thing doesn't bother me but there looked to be only a few food vans outside with huge queues.

Still prefer it to Hampden though

[mcdougall(4)]

 

I thought I read somewhere that there was too much administration involved in applying for special licences for the festival and the new year celebrations that they decided to not ban drink on the street.

Very rarely in Edinburgh so I could be speaking shite.

If you're in the Xmas market for example you're fine try to leave with your drink security will stop you.

Same as anywhere.

 

In August there's a certain tolerance as I say.

But can you imagine police Scotland doing that for football

[caledonia]

This has nothing to do with stadia only giving rangers and celtic more money

 

This will only add against the level playing field that is already there

 

Lets be honest 99% of the games moved about will go to old firm

 

For example all cup finals celtic are involved in for a start will go to iprix ( yes most of them)

 

Of course the media will push the agenda saying it will be spread around

 

Maybe an idea would be to take turn about unless sellout and move it with that team missing their turn

[Bluto10]

They have the most suitable grounds for internationals.

Chill out Caledonia; you’ll give yersel an aneurysm

 

Like any stadium with a track, Hampden is shite.

Needs remodeled and built from scratch

 

British football needs decent national stadia.

What sets us apart from monkey nations

[muttonhumper]

Hampden is fucking crap.

A real dump of a ground bar the main stand.

Even that is fairly shite.

 

Only decent thing aboot it has been seeing the Dons lift 5 Scottish Cups and 4 League Cups there.

Other than that, it can get ti fuck.

 

 

Call me a cynic but I have a feeling Parkhead and Ibrox will end up being rotated for internationals and cup finals. And Ibrox repairs will end up being paid for from sfa revenue.

 

This will probably happen by stealth.

Be fucked if I'm going to any games to pay for the upkeep of the sevco stadium.

Fuck that.

[tup]

Definitely the plan is to get the SFA to pay for essential maintenance to Ibrox.

 

Otherwise there'd be no 'debate' (over a decision which has already been made in the lodge)