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Gordon Brown seems very keen to promote England's world cup bid, but why doesn't he try and get the SFA involved, after all he's so 'British'!

 

Surely if Scotland are open to the idea of joining Ireland as they were for 2008, and have not said no to Wales in terms of another bid, don't they want to bring the biggest sporting event here also but this time alongside England?

 

As far as I'm aware, Ibrox and Hampdung Park qualify.

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I was thinking about this earlier.

 

Have a British bid, yet the teams in Britain would have to qualify for it. No need for 4 home nations to qualify as hosts. And anyway, how many stadiums in the UK are already up to World Cup standard? With a wee bit of work done to some of them then there must be at least 15. And why not have all the stadiums and areas involved, even if it is just for one or two games?

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I was thinking about this earlier.

 

Have a British bid, yet the teams in Britain would have to qualify for it. No need for 4 home nations to qualify as hosts. And anyway, how many stadiums in the UK are already up to World Cup standard? With a wee bit of work done to some of them then there must be at least 15. And why not have all the stadiums and areas involved, even if it is just for one or two games?

 

 

Unfortunately having a British-hosted World Cup might move us closer to a British football team for the European and World Cups in the eyes of FIFA...... can't see any of the Home nations being happy with that. I certainly wouldn't be cheering an England select under the Union Jack!!!

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Unfortunately having a British-hosted World Cup might move us closer to a British football team for the European and World Cups in the eyes of FIFA...... can't see any of the Home nations being happy with that. I certainly wouldn't be cheering an England select under the Union Jack!!!

 

It was the one flaw in my great plan.

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FIFA haven't even decided which continent the 2018 World Cup will be played and already England are the favourites according to the EBC.

 

I reckon Mr Browns involvement is just to put him in a more favourable light with his English masters, I doubt he could really give a monkeys about the WC - I doubt he'll be anywhere near power in 2018.

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Unfortunately having a British-hosted World Cup might move us closer to a British football team for the European and World Cups in the eyes of FIFA...... can't see any of the Home nations being happy with that. I certainly wouldn't be cheering an England select under the Union Jack!!!

 

Not too sure about that. Plenty countries are joint hosting a tournament these days like Japan and South Korea, Holland and Belgium, and Austria and Switzerland. In any case I would doubt a joint bid would get the go ahead anyway as England have plenty stadia to host the tournament on their own.

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not really at the moment, as you've got to bare in mind under FIFA & UEFA rules only one venue per city is permitted for major tournaments - so with say Wembley an obvious choice, that rules out The Emirates, Stamford Bridge & the new Olympic stadium just for starters.

So therefore it would be impossible for Scotland to really ever bid for a major tournament by ourselves?

 

If this is indeed the case here's a list only including one stadium per city.

 

Manchester - Old Trafford.

Liverpool - Anfield / new stadium at Stanley Park by 2018.

Newcastle - St James' Park.

Blackburn - Ewood Park.

Birmingham - Villa Park.

Southampton - St Mary's.

Sunderland - Stadium of Light.

Leicester - Walkers Stadium.

Leeds - Elland Road.

Bolton - Reebok Stadium.

Derby - Pride Park.

Coventry - Ricoh Arena.

 

There's 12 stadia that are either good enough now, or probably have the potential to be. Not to mention others that may be built in the next 11 years.

 

You could also have a new stadium in Sheffield (groundshare for Utd and Wednesday) which would work too.

 

Germany had 12 venues, in 12 different cities.

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uni_don Newbie

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The Madjeski would probably have a shout given it's proximity to the centre of the earth that is London.

I originally discounted Reading because the stadium isn't that big - 24,250 capacity according to Wikipedia, but I'd forgotten it's less than 10 years old, and could probably be upgraded if need be.

 

I would quite like it if the government stepped in and helped Luton in their attempts to build a new stadium. That would be nice of them - it's not London, but very near.

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The only 5 star stadiums in the UK are Ibrox, Hampden, Old Trafford, Millenium Stadium and now the new Wembley. Now, many of the stadiums listed above could be upgradeable, but not all of them, and it certainly would make a stronger case for a joint UK bid, especially given that Cardiff isn't all that far from London.

 

Now, the World Cup doesn't require every venue to be 5 star, but surely the more 5 star facilities available would seriously strengthen any bid; or at least negate the fact that it would be 3 different countries involved.

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The only English statia who could handle the tournament today are Wembley, Old Trafford, The Emirates Stadium, St James' Park, City of Manchester Stadium and Villa Park. Two of them would be inelligible due to the one pool per city rule as would every other London club, Sunderland, one of the Liverpool clubs.

 

Looks to me like the biggest league in the world isn't up to the task. :nutter:

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The only English statia who could handle the tournament today are Wembley, Old Trafford, The Emirates Stadium, St James' Park, City of Manchester Stadium and Villa Park. Two of them would be inelligible due to the one pool per city rule as would every other London club, Sunderland, one of the Liverpool clubs.

 

Looks to me like the biggest league in the world isn't up to the task. :nutter:

 

Fit aboot the Madjeski?? Reebok? Pride Park?? Even Wigan's, Huddersfield's and Hull's grounds surely can't be far off??? Certainly for group stages at least.

 

Should read threads first eh??! :applause:

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Jaws Newbie

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Surely if countries are joint hosting a torunament then venues have to be shared out evenly which would completely rule Scotland and Wales out given Wales only have the Millenium and we only have Murrayfield and one from Hampden, Ibrox and Celtic Park, since they're all in Glasgow.

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The only English statia who could handle the tournament today are Wembley, Old Trafford, The Emirates Stadium, St James' Park, City of Manchester Stadium and Villa Park. Two of them would be inelligible due to the one pool per city rule as would every other London club, Sunderland, one of the Liverpool clubs.

 

Looks to me like the biggest league in the world isn't up to the task. :dontknow:

Contrary to popular belief Newcastle, Sunderland and Middlesbrough are all stand alone cities.

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Shetland Lamb Newbie

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Surely if countries are joint hosting a torunament then venues have to be shared out evenly which would completely rule Scotland and Wales out given Wales only have the Millenium and we only have Murrayfield and one from Hampden, Ibrox and Celtic Park, since they're all in Glasgow.

 

 

Given the population of England, surely you wouldn't expect the venues to be divided equally on the number of countries involved? I think Wales with one stadium, Scotland with two and England with the rest would be quite fair.

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Given the population of England, surely you wouldn't expect the venues to be divided equally on the number of countries involved? I think Wales with one stadium, Scotland with two and England with the rest would be quite fair.

 

So you let Wales qualify for the tournament all for the use of one stadium? Sorry but i wouldn't expect that to happen at all. Great stadium but you've got to offer more than that to joint host a World Cup.

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Not too sure about that. Plenty countries are joint hosting a tournament these days like Japan and South Korea, Holland and Belgium, and Austria and Switzerland. In any case I would doubt a joint bid would get the go ahead anyway as England have plenty stadia to host the tournament on their own.
FIFA, and particularly the African nations have often been unhappy with the 4 British nations, thinking they take up more places that could go elsewhere.

 

The other joint bids are irrellevant, no-one is claiming that these nations are one in any way, whereas "Britain" is

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