Possible Tactic Changes

[PHDDONS1903]

If Deek was going to change the formation, what do you think he should change it to and what players would you play in said formation?

[Tord31]

more than 0 strikers would be a start

[PHDDONS1903]

more than 0 strikers would be a start

 

[strachanmcgheegoal]

What we’re doing now. Get that defence gelled. Three across the middle, probably Ferguson, Gleason and Shinnie. GMS (the can be arsed one) and McGinn (the better be fucking arsed one) try Anderson in the middle till we sort out Wilson. Ball and Consi to manage out games, Cosgrove for the physical job and Wright and Ross once they’re tired.

 

Still got Hoban in reserve. Plus the youngsters.

[aberdeen1970]

He might go 352 when everyone is fit.

 

He toyed with it last year but made a mess of it because he didn't have the right players.

 

I think he's got the wrong mix of players to get the best out of his favoured 4231 now.

[Tord31]

it'll be great to see Considine back at left back on Saturday

[1903Fitba]

He might go 352 when everyone is fit.

 

He toyed with it last year but made a mess of it because he didn't have the right players.

 

I think he's got the wrong mix of players to get the best out of his favoured 4231 now.

He doesn’t have the brain for it you mean.

[aberdeen1970]

He doesn’t have the brain for it you mean.

I was giving him the benefit of the doubt.

 

I agree with the op though. We need to do something different.

[Shinniesta]

He might go 352 when everyone is fit.

 

He toyed with it last year but made a mess of it because he didn't have the right players.

 

I think he's got the wrong mix of players to get the best out of his favoured 4231 now.

It depends who he plays in a 3-5-2. If it means the likes of GMS and McGinn as wing backs it's a waste of time in my opinion as you don't get anywhere near the best out of them and GMS is currently our best attacking player. But I do think we now have the players to give playing 3 at the back a go. Below is how I'd like to see us line up (3-4-1-2).

 

Lewis

Devlin Hoban McKenna

Logan Shinnie Ferguson Lowe

GMS

Anderson Wilson

 

GMS in behind the strikers I think he has the pace, trickery, skill and vision to play there like a better version of Pawlett. McGinn could also play in that position or as a main striker alongside Wilson. The team I've shown doesn't include the likes of Gleeson or Forrester but they've not shown enough yet to warrant a guaranteed starting place.

 

McInnes needs to try 2 up front as our lack of goals from open play is chronic. We're currently just too predictable in his tried and tested 4-2-3-1.

[Sonoftherock]

We need to find some way of incorporating two forward players.  As a team, we're like a blunt instrument.  Until Wilson comes back, we're also operating with a lone striker who cannot play as a lone striker.  If we're going to persist with May, we should have signed MacLean in the summer, when we had a chance!

[aberdeen1970]

It depends who he plays in a 3-5-2. If it means the likes of GMS and McGinn as wing backs it's a waste of time in my opinion as you don't get anywhere near the best out of them and GMS is currently our best attacking player. But I do think we now have the players to give playing 3 at the back a go. Below is how I'd like to see us line up (3-4-1-2).

 

Lewis

Devlin Hoban McKenna

Logan Shinnie Ferguson Lowe

GMS

Anderson Wilson

 

GMS in behind the strikers I think he has the pace, trickery, skill and vision to play there like a better version of Pawlett. McGinn could also play in that position or as a main striker alongside Wilson. The team I've shown doesn't include the likes of Gleeson or Forrester but they've not shown enough yet to warrant a guaranteed starting place.

 

McInnes needs to try 2 up front as our lack of goals from open play is chronic. We're currently just too predictable in his tried and tested 4-2-3-1.

Aye that's the kinda line up I'd like to see if he played 352. More a 343 if you like.

 

Id have exactly the same team as you in the same positions except I'd like to see McGinn up front alongside Wilson.

 

I suspect McInnes would lose one of the attacking 3 and play a Ball or a Gleeson instead though in a more defensive 352

[The Oxford Don]

Just have some cunt run with the ball from deep but through the middle, a la Pawlett in 2014 when he was good.

 

Teams hate it, it’s hooringly difficult to defend against and if nothing else would make us a whole lot less predictable.

[Ke1t]

Since we've basically played without a center mid since McLean and the Rat fucked off, just adopt the Wimbledon tactics of the 80s. 

 

Keeper smashes the ball into their final third, and one of the four forwards heids it into the net. 

 

Sorted. 

[Redforever86]

We can’t create fuck all, should concentrate on not conceding. Try and nick the odd goal fae set pieces with the big cunts up the park. Tell McGinn (if on as a sub for a tired GMS) to try and win corners as he can’t cross fae open play 99% of the time.

 

Lewis

 

Hoban Devlin McKenna Lowe

 

Logan Considine

 

Ferguson Shinnie

 

GMS

Cosgrove

[Redforever86]

Since we've basically played without a center mid since McLean and the Rat fucked off, just adopt the Wimbledon tactics of the 80s.

 

Keeper smashes the ball into their final third, and one of the four forwards heids it into the net.

 

Sorted.

We’ve got 1/4 forward nae 4 x 1 forward min.

[Dom Sullivan]

Just have some cunt run with the ball from deep but through the middle, a la Pawlett in 2014 when he was good.

Teams hate it, it’s hooringly difficult to defend against and if nothing else would make us a whole lot less predictable.

Like Scotty Wright did in the number 10 role when he and Frank Ross played really in the St Mirren game.

[fine-n-dandy]

McInnes & various tactical plans in same thread lol

 

McInnes is Alex Miller but articulate

 

Our best tactical change certainly involves him in the equation but not in the way this thread was meant.

[SheepieBaaBaa]

It depends who he plays in a 3-5-2. If it means the likes of GMS and McGinn as wing backs it's a waste of time in my opinion as you don't get anywhere near the best out of them and GMS is currently our best attacking player. But I do think we now have the players to give playing 3 at the back a go. Below is how I'd like to see us line up (3-4-1-2).

 

Lewis

Devlin Hoban McKenna

Logan Shinnie Ferguson Lowe

GMS

Anderson Wilson

 

GMS in behind the strikers I think he has the pace, trickery, skill and vision to play there like a better version of Pawlett. McGinn could also play in that position or as a main striker alongside Wilson. The team I've shown doesn't include the likes of Gleeson or Forrester but they've not shown enough yet to warrant a guaranteed starting place.

 

McInnes needs to try 2 up front as our lack of goals from open play is chronic. We're currently just too predictable in his tried and tested 4-2-3-1.

 

I like this, 2 up front with a creative player behind them (I've been banging that drum for weeks now).

 

I'd try the swapping in Mcginn for GMS and May for Anderson from the bench to see if playing in a formation that suits him might actually awaken the sleeping Stevie May and to give McGinn a chance in that central creative role (He'd do goals from there too, possibly more than GMS would),

 

I'd also like to see a more basic 41212 but not sure we have the players to support it,

[Mr John]

Oh god no, diamond midfields never work.

 

I like the 3-4-1-2. Suits our options.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

3-4-1-2 is fine but you just know it would revert to 5-4-1 the second

 

a/ they score but cunningly, sensing fear, don’t back off us, the scamps

 

b/. They don’t score but Derek decides to play for a good point against a good team.

 

C/. We score and Derek decides to manage the game out.

 

So, a back 5 with Ball and Shinnie in front it is then.

[The Oxford Don]

Like Scotty Wright did in the number 10 role when he and Frank Ross played really in the St Mirren game.

 

Exactly this.

[sooth_stander]

What we’re doing now. Get that defence gelled. Three across the middle, probably Ferguson, Gleason and Shinnie. GMS (the can be arsed one) and McGinn (the better be fucking arsed one) try Anderson in the middle till we sort out Wilson. Ball and Consi to manage out games, Cosgrove for the physical job and Wright and Ross once they’re tired.

 

Still got Hoban in reserve. Plus the youngsters.

Yeah, that works for me too, 4-3-3, with Logan and Lowe bombing up the wings.

 

Ball in for Fergie this weekend,  and then once Fergie retuns, Shinnie goes to left back, so a midfield 3 of Gleason, Ball and Fergie, and then Wilson in for Anderson once the former returns

[Old manny]

Since we've basically played without a center mid since McLean and the Rat fucked off, just adopt the Wimbledon tactics of the 80s. 

 

Keeper smashes the ball into their final third, and one of the four forwards heids it into the net. 

 

Sorted. 

I'm not against the long ball game in principle and as you point out Wimbledon were successful with it under Joe Kinnear and so were Watford under Graham Taylor. The problem for us using that tactic is we do not have a Dean Holdsworth or Luther Blissett type capable of holding the ball up, outmuscling defenders and scoring their fair share of goals. Young Cosgrove has a long way to go yet, Wison has yet to show anything in his brief appearances, May is fucked and Anderson is not being given nearly enough game time. To be successful in the long ball game we absolutely had to sign Moult and I am still furious we did not push the boat out to get him. The long and short of it is we do not have a decent number ten to play our front men in if we are to employ the passing game and we do not have the right type of striker for the long game. Fucked either way.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

Yeah, that works for me too, 4-3-3, with Logan and Lowe bombing up the wings.

 

Ball in for Fergie this weekend, and then once Fergie retuns, Shinnie goes to left back, so a midfield 3 of Gleason, Ball and Fergie, and then Wilson in for Anderson once the former returns

I haven’t seen Lowe live yet so would like to argue the Shinnie point with you, but can’t.

[The Boofon]

Get 5 sent off and forfeit every game 3-0 would be a decent tactic the way we’re playing just now.

[Zander1903]

personally i'd like us to do more goals than we lose...….not that hard surely

[Ernie McCracken]

Logan used to do a few goals iirc.

 

Has he lost that do goals feelin’?

 

He's also lost that do defending feeling

[Henry]

To be successful in the long ball game we absolutely had to sign Moult and I am still furious we did not push the boat out to get him.

Alright calm down

[Dr_Manhattan]

                       Lewis

Logan     Devlin     McKenna     Shinnie

McGinn   Ferguson      Ball        GMS

                May/Cosgrove     Anderson

 

 

4-4-2. Proper mannies fitba.

[V for Vendetta]

Lewis

Logan Devlin McKenna Shinnie

McGinn Ferguson Ball GMS

May/Cosgrove Anderson

 

 

4-4-2. Proper mannies fitba.

I'm not usually one to suggest 442 but this season I honestly think might as well try it- that line up ^ would do much better than recent matches.

 

Most of all, we need to play 2 up front, at least until Wilson is fit and we can see if he can play up alone. But we know 100% neither May nor Cosgrove are much use as a lone striker.