afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 2 hours ago, DD1903 said: You're basing all this on around 30 minutes of him on a tv screen? Come on now... I agree with him. From the brief glimpses we've seen of him, he has showed some good touch, control, skill, physicality and movement which suggests he could be a very decent player for us. 1 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 15 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Remember how happy so many were when we got Wilson signed on permanent deal? Most likely on ridiculous wages for what he was actually worth. Just saying Irrelevant Just saying Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, afc1903mad said: Irrelevant Just saying Thank you for your contribution Your irrelevance has been noted ? Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 6 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: Thank you for your contribution Your irrelevance has been noted ? Massive woooosh. To put it more plainly, comparing Edmonson to Wilson means nothing. They are different players, who in themselves may have a different work ethic and attitude. The boys on loan, were discussing the merits of whether he could do a job for when Cosgrove is sold. To that, I think he has shown enough in his fleeting Dons outings to date to suggest he could very well, do a job and be a successful succession plan to Cosgrove. The bigger debate really is whether we would be able to get him or not. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 Loan players coming to end of contracts with parent clubs....... CHECK Not offered new deals with parent clubs (as yet)......... check Some fans believing the players must be quality just because of parent club being in EPL...... check Some seeing great glimpses of play in them & assuming it's a given they must be worth it (back to parent club & assumptions) .... check Very likely (if get deal with Aberdeen) to be on big wages because of their expectations......check Massive wooooosh for many things in common & NOT irrelevant in favour of focus on just minor detail of players not being twins.....check ? Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 They're different players FFS. By your reckoning we should never take a player in on load with a view to the move being made permanent. If the boy was to come in, do a job and then get sold on for a decent fee, then job done. Incidentally, there was a deal offered / muted as offered just before he came up here. Not sure what happened there. Also I've made no comment on where he has come from as any basis of what he can do. My comments on his potential are purely on what he has shown so far. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: They're different players FFS. By your reckoning we should never take a player in on load with a view to the move being made permanent. If the boy was to come in, do a job and then get sold on for a decent fee, then job done. Incidentally, there was a deal offered / muted as offered just before he came up here. Not sure what happened there. Also I've made no comment on where he has come from as any basis of what he can do. My comments on his potential are purely on what he has shown so far. There was definitely chat about a new contract before the injury Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 31 minutes ago, Tord31 said: There was definitely chat about a new contract before the injury The word was that he signed an extension before he came up on loan. Then it seems a new contract was not signed Interestingly this site suggests he was on £680 per week, https://salarysport.com/football/player/ryan-edmondson/ so maybe the contract offered is not what Ryan and his agent were expecting Also interesting what the sites thinks Aberdeen players are on https://salarysport.com/football/ladbrokes-premiership/aberdeen/ Link to comment
maryhilldon Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 5 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: The word was that he signed an extension before he came up on loan. Then it seems a new contract was not signed Interestingly this site suggests he was on £680 per week, https://salarysport.com/football/player/ryan-edmondson/ so maybe the contract offered is not what Ryan and his agent were expecting Also interesting what the sites thinks Aberdeen players are on https://salarysport.com/football/ladbrokes-premiership/aberdeen/ Paid £800k for Ronny but only paying him £700 a week? Can't be right? Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 4 minutes ago, maryhilldon said: Paid £800k for Ronny but only paying him £800 a week? Can't be right? Depends who's picking up the tab maybe Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 1 hour ago, afc1903mad said: They're different players FFS. By your reckoning we should never take a player in on load with a view to the move being made permanent. If the boy was to come in, do a job and then get sold on for a decent fee, then job done. Incidentally, there was a deal offered / muted as offered just before he came up here. Not sure what happened there. Also I've made no comment on where he has come from as any basis of what he can do. My comments on his potential are purely on what he has shown so far. Am only sayin that many folk are gettin a lil ahead of themselves regards another ‘exciting talent’ from very little to actually go on & mostly because he’s from a team that has just been promoted to EPL & he’s hardly even played for them in championship either. probably a lot of these same folk would slate folk for judging players ability in games from their armchairs & not with the ‘in the flesh’ righteous judgements present at actual games. He’s big & a presence so he must be good Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 12, 2020 Share Posted October 12, 2020 He’s a bit more than that going by what we’ve seen him in. Dons shirt, nothing to do with what he did elsewhere or where he came from as I didn’t see him there. Link to comment
Guest Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 9 hours ago, afc1903mad said: The word was that he signed an extension before he came up on loan. Then it seems a new contract was not signed Interestingly this site suggests he was on £680 per week, https://salarysport.com/football/player/ryan-edmondson/ so maybe the contract offered is not what Ryan and his agent were expecting Also interesting what the sites thinks Aberdeen players are on https://salarysport.com/football/ladbrokes-premiership/aberdeen/ As someone with not that much professional experience, Dean Campbell is doing well for himself! Don't believe anything like that Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 On 10/11/2020 at 12:25 PM, King Street Loon said: I seem to be the only one that hasn't jumped on the Edmondson train yet. Haven't seen anything from him yet that makes me think he's got a future at Leeds let alone us. I appreciate he's still very young, and puts himself about, but I just think he looks very much the centre half converted to centre forward that he is. Anyone know what his scoring record was for Leeds U-18's, U-23's. From what I've seen (which is all minutes thus far in Dons shirt), there has been nothing to suggest he's anything other that a fairly average hitman. But he's barely played, and is very young, so every chance he can yet "explode onto the scene". Definition of mediocre up to now though. 2 2 Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 1 hour ago, muttonhumper said: From what I've seen (which is all minutes thus far in Dons shirt), there has been nothing to suggest he's anything other that a fairly average hitman. But he's barely played, and is very young, so every chance he can yet "explode onto the scene". Definition of mediocre up to now though. Maybe you were drunk or sleeping. nevermind, you’ll come around and eventually appreciate his qualities ? Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 16 hours ago, afc1903mad said: He’s a bit more than that going by what we’ve seen him in. Dons shirt, nothing to do with what he did elsewhere or where he came from as I didn’t see him there. I'll reserve judgement until there is something noteworthy of such to go on. I don't need to be in amongst the 'told you so' crowd in saying he's great without requiring to see much. 4 hours ago, muttonhumper said: From what I've seen (which is all minutes thus far in Dons shirt), there has been nothing to suggest he's anything other that a fairly average hitman. But he's barely played, and is very young, so every chance he can yet "explode onto the scene". Definition of mediocre up to now though. Agreed, I think some are buying into the Leeds now in EPL type hype in all honesty. Not having a dig at them but I think it's the case. Coupled with a lot of nervousness of what we'd be left with up front once Cosgrove goes. He may well turn out to be a star & 'one that got away' if we don't manage to sign him but thus far I am not too fussed if we do or don't get him long term. Especially if we were fortunate enough to get Watkins as he has (actual goals aside) contributed enough to reasonably safely assess as an asset Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 56 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said: I'll reserve judgement until there is something noteworthy of such to go on. I don't need to be in amongst the 'told you so' crowd in saying he's great without requiring to see much. Firstly, let me be clear, that I'm not trying to get you to change your mind. you are entitled to your opinion and it has indeed been just a few fleeting viewings we have to assess his performances. I would be interested to know what you deem noteworthy For me, these are the things I recall he did well. Sevco Game - He came off the bench and aided us to get further up the pitch with his physical presence and control. Until then the ball was like a hot tattie that nobody wanted to keep a hold of. Motherwell game - A poor game for all and he came on in the second half (first game back after injury) I can't recall anything of not in that game Ross County - Only played a few minutes, but he showed great skill in the box to skin the defender before cutting it back St Mirren - Again came off the bench and was influential in breaking down a stubborn St Mirren defence. Great alertness to lay the ball off perfectly for Watkins to score and break his goal drought. What impressed me was not the lay-off itself, but that he was showing great movement to get ready for the 1-2 return and wasn't stopping admiring the lay-off. I accept its early doors, but when comparing to Cosgrove, I think he has shown more in those fleeting glimpses we've had than Cosgrove did in his first 4 appearances for the Dons from the bench 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 26 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: Firstly, let me be clear, that I'm not trying to get you to change your mind. you are entitled to your opinion and it has indeed been just a few fleeting viewings we have to assess his performances. I would be interested to know what you deem noteworthy For me, these are the things I recall he did well. Sevco Game - He came off the bench and aided us to get further up the pitch with his physical presence and control. Until then the ball was like a hot tattie that nobody wanted to keep a hold of. Motherwell game - A poor game for all and he came on in the second half (first game back after injury) I can't recall anything of not in that game Ross County - Only played a few minutes, but he showed great skill in the box to skin the defender before cutting it back St Mirren - Again came off the bench and was influential in breaking down a stubborn St Mirren defence. Great alertness to lay the ball off perfectly for Watkins to score and break his goal drought. What impressed me was not the lay-off itself, but that he was showing great movement to get ready for the 1-2 return and wasn't stopping admiring the lay-off. I accept its early doors, but when comparing to Cosgrove, I think he has shown more in those fleeting glimpses we've had than Cosgrove did in his first 4 appearances for the Dons from the bench I'm not writing him off, just basically saying I will give him time before I assess my humble view of him, Just as I did rgds Cosgrove. I have seen enough to say he offers decent things but not enough yet to say we should sign him (on what would quite likely be a fairly high wage) difference with Cosgrove in this respect was that he was already our signing & also on a relatively small wage. Bit early IMO to be ?he signs for us. That's all I am saying. Am not saying you are wrong in your assessments of him either but I do feel there is a hint of desperation from some to GET HIM SIGNED but based on not much when you consider the likely expense of doing so. Link to comment
Guest Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 Guys played about 40 mins in total off the bench and yous are discussing if he's good or nae good. Let the geezer get started and see what like then. So much speculative drivel Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted October 13, 2020 Share Posted October 13, 2020 11 hours ago, afc1903mad said: Maybe you were drunk or sleeping. nevermind, you’ll come around and eventually appreciate his qualities ? Maybe he will come good, like I say, limited time to judge. What is 100% certain though, thus far, is has has done absolutely fuck all (or less) to justify the strange bishop bashing fest that trumpeted his arrival.. Hey. I'm waiting. Anticipating, Hoping as much as you that if he does get the chance then it will justify the foaming jappers that some have undertaken. Until then... 2 Link to comment
ollie1903 Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 4:13 AM, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: As someone with not that much professional experience, Dean Campbell is doing well for himself! Don't believe anything like that Gonna have to up his board 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted October 15, 2020 Share Posted October 15, 2020 6 hours ago, ollie1903 said: Gonna have to up his board Too right! Link to comment
Mr John Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 On 10/13/2020 at 3:16 PM, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said: Guys played about 40 mins in total off the bench and yous are discussing if he's good or nae good. Let the geezer get started and see what like then. So much speculative drivel This. I was going to say we were mostly all completely fucking wrong aboot Cosgrove over time, so yeah, we need to cool our jets and judge with 20/20 hindsight later. But please feel free to dismiss this reasoned thinking if you're the sort that comes on here to vent your borderline psychotic feelings because you have nothing better to do. #readingtheroom 1 Link to comment
V for Vendetta Posted October 16, 2020 Share Posted October 16, 2020 9 hours ago, Mr John said: This. I was going to say we were mostly all completely fucking wrong aboot Cosgrove over time, so yeah, we need to cool our jets and judge with 20/20 hindsight later. But please feel free to dismiss this reasoned thinking if you're the sort that comes on here to vent your borderline psychotic feelings because you have nothing better to do. #readingtheroom Borderline? 1 Link to comment
Mr John Posted October 17, 2020 Share Posted October 17, 2020 I didn't want to push someone over the edge. But yeah. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 I wonder if anyone who couldn’t see what Edmondson brings is watching tonight 1 Link to comment
CalgaryDon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 20 minutes ago, afc1903mad said: I wonder if anyone who couldn’t see what Edmondson brings is watching tonight Edmundson looks to have more about him at 19 then when Cosgrove first appeared on the scene with us. I'd personally sell Cosgrove (3 million) and try and get this lad in on a free if Leeds don't want him. He looks really promising. He also looks like Sam Smith. Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Pleased for the Loon to grab his first goals for us on his first ever professional start. Hopefully kicks on and proves me and some others wrong. 1 Link to comment
strachanmcgheegoal Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Injured? Or game management pish? Link to comment
King Street Loon Posted October 20, 2020 Share Posted October 20, 2020 Injured I think. He proved tonight that Watkins shouldn't be the main striker. Link to comment
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