Transfer rules after Brexit

[Byrne Baby Byrne]

Anyone seen this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55360752

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Scottish clubs face major uncertainty with a deal yet to be agreed on how they can sign European Union players after Brexit, a top lawyer has warned.

At present, EU players can freely sign for Scottish clubs.

But the Brexit transition period ends on 31 December and English clubs have agreed a new points-based system similar to non-EU players.

"We could end up with a radical change in club structures with the focus on homegrown players," Paul Deans said.

"A little bit like everything to do with Brexit, we can't be 100% sure right now, but it does seem very likely that there's going to be a new points-based system that will apply to European players as well as rest of the world players and that will effectively make bringing in players from Europe more difficult for Scottish teams."

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Talks are continuing with the Home Office on a framework for Scotland.

Paul Deans, an associate at Glasgow-based law firm Thompsons, which represents sporting organisations including player's union PFA Scotland, hopes the Scottish FA and Scottish Professional Football League can agree something more "tailored to the needs of Scotland and the finances of Scotland".

"If you look at the standards that are set in England, it is very unlikely that Scottish clubs would be able to buy players of that calibre," he told BBC Scotland.

Deans points out that the English points system would "raise the bar" significantly for players able to play in the UK as it takes into account such factors as international appearances, the quality of the club they are coming from and how far they have gone previously in European competitions.

An exemptions panel will still exist where a club would be able to put forward an argument for special circumstances.

"I think to some extent clubs are used to dealing with the points-based system because they use it for rest of the world players, so it is not entirely new, but you will see that squads overwhelmingly in Scotland will either be players from the home nations or Europeans - they won't be further afield," Deans suggested.

He believes that it will become more difficult for Scottish clubs to continue with the model of signing young emerging talent from EU countries and selling them for a profit.

"On the flip side, it does create that opportunity, perhaps, rather than teams being filled with European players, it is going to encourage more Scottish players to make the breakthrough, which in the linger term could be good for the Scottish national team," he said.

It is not clear whether the new rules will be in place for the January transfer market and Deans added that, if the existing rules remain, clubs may be prepared to take a chance of "a few players they might otherwise have kept an eye on for a little bit longer to decide whether they are interested".

The SFA and SPFL have been approached for comment.

I doubt it will happen but this would actually be brilliant for Scottish football. Excellent for us.

I see the SFA have written to the Scottish Government to "plead" it doesn't happen. Who's interests is that in? The SFA's?? Surely more Scottish boys playing football for Scottish teams would be good news, no? Who's interests are they pandering to?? I can't work it out

[Tord31]

Interesting. 

I'd be surprised if there was a very huge change but we'll see.

[slippers]

Hoping for as strict as possible regulations as that would completely transform our league. OF forced to pay through nose for top Scottish talent and the fact they can't recruit many players from Europe to sell on for millions if any at all. Not to mention the OF potentially being less competitive in Europe so less prize money.  A good crop of youth players could transform the fortunes of club for years to come.

[fine-n-dandy]

Remember how the huns used this as an argument against independence in 2014 ?

[fine-n-dandy]

4 minutes ago, slippers said:

Hoping for as strict as possible regulations as that would completely transform our league. OF forced to pay through nose for top Scottish talent and the fact they can't recruit many players from Europe to sell on for millions if any at all. Not to mention the OF potentially being less competitive in Europe so less prize money.  A good crop of youth players could transform the fortunes of club for years to come.

Won’t affect them though as they can afford to sign actual internationals

[perthshirered]

1 hour ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said:

Anyone seen this?

https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/football/55360752

I doubt it will happen but this would actually be brilliant for Scottish football. Excellent for us.

I see the SFA have written to the Scottish Government to "plead" it doesn't happen. Who's interests is that in? The SFA's?? Surely more Scottish boys playing football for Scottish teams would be good news, no? Who's interests are they pandering to?? I can't work it out

It will be fuck all to do with the Scottish Government I wouldn't have thought. 

[Andy_123]

Can't imagine there will be too much of an impact on Scottish clubs outwith Celtic and Rangers. They are the only 2 who fill their team full of foreign (non UK) players anyway.

[slippers]

44 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Won’t affect them though as they can afford to sign actual internationals

There isn’t a problem signing full internationals with caps, it’s signing the youth players with potential that Celtic and rangers wouldnt get over line. That’s there market! Morelos, Hagi, barisic, Edouard, Dembele, Ntcham, soro, Jullien etc they wouldn’t get over the line. 

[slippers]

Double edged sword would be if we were able to secure prospects like Lewis Ferguson if English clubs were limited to more often than not British players. 

[Dynamo]

Is there any way that we can back date this to just before Ojo signed?

[aberdeen1970]

If this happens there will be another push for their colt teams to be in the league so they can stockpile young Scottish players and provide them with senior football. 

 

[AllyDon]

2 hours ago, aberdeen1970 said:

If this happens there will be another push for their colt teams to be in the league so they can stockpile young Scottish players and provide them with senior football. 

 

They can fuck right off with that idea!!

[aberdeen1970]

8 minutes ago, AllyDon said:

They can fuck right off with that idea!!

Aye. 

I fear they will up the fee they were going to pay in order to buy the lower league votes. 

Cunts 

[Ramandu]

2 hours ago, slippers said:

Double edged sword would be if we were able to secure prospects like Lewis Ferguson if English clubs were limited to more often than not British players. 

Would have thought it'll impact English championship a fair amount, who realistically are our most likely buyers.

[The beard of mcinnes]

4 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Remember how the huns used this as an argument against independence in 2014 ?

???

[fine-n-dandy]

4 minutes ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

???

Scotland goes independent & out o EU we canny sign foreigners n aw at byraway 

Vote NO

[The beard of mcinnes]

7 minutes ago, fine-n-dandy said:

Scotland goes independent & out o EU we canny sign foreigners n aw at byraway 

Vote NO

If scotland had voted yes, it would not have been in the EU so...

[fine-n-dandy]

4 minutes ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

If scotland had voted yes, it would not have been in the EU so...

Exactly so same thing as is happening now regardless signing players after Brexit 

 

Are you seriously not understanding this ? ?

 

 

[maryhilldon]

2 hours ago, alscotoz said:

Could work out well. Probably means you'll watch a shitier product?

Why?  Not many European players of any quality in Scottish teams apart from the arsecheeks so who cares? How will you watch a shitier product if your a dons fan? 

[slippers]

4 hours ago, maryhilldon said:

Why?  Not many European players of any quality in Scottish teams apart from the arsecheeks so who cares? How will you watch a shitier product if your a dons fan? 

Because English teams will be fighting over Ross mcCrorie abd lewis Ferguson’s of this world so our chances of getting players like that will be less.

[NEM]

3 hours ago, alscotoz said:

The best players for the arse cheeks have generally been decent to watch. Dons fans do watch them... even if only 6-8 times a year. I suspect it's more than that for many. Take them out then quality will be negatively affected. Opinion.

Not comparing SPFL to Australian league but it was worth watching when guys like Del Piero were on the field. 

When the huns were cheating their way to titles was the quality of the players in the league better overall than now? I don't know.

No real dons fan watches the huns or tims because “they are decent to watch”

Wise up 

[Yorston Vasey]

6 minutes ago, NEM said:

No real dons fan watches the huns or tims because “they are decent to watch”

Wise up 

When the Huns and Tims had Laudrup, the de Boers, van Bronckhorst, Arteta, Larsson, van Hooijdonk, Sutton, Moravcik etc. Those sorts of players were decent to watch.

[NEM]

Oh aye I was fair impressed with the huns slick passing and skills when they were humping us 4-0 in the Scottish cup final

Celtic’s movement off the ball was a joy to behold in the 9-0 game 

[Yorston Vasey]

2 minutes ago, NEM said:

Oh aye I was fair impressed with the huns slick passing and skills when they were humping us 4-0 in the Scottish cup final

Celtic’s movement off the ball was a joy to behold in the 9-0 game 

Each to their own... as much as I hated watching Larsson put hat trick after hat trick in against us, I could still appreciate I was watching a special player. There were plenty of games involving the OF that we weren't in that I'd watched on telly back in the day and had similar thoughts also.

If we went up against Barcelona and were taken to bits by Messi, I'm sure I could still marvel at his ability rather than try and insist that Scott Wright was a talent more worthy of appreciation just because he was wearing a red shirt.

Do you not actually enjoy watching football for the sake of watching football?

[For Fecks Sake]

1 hour ago, NEM said:

No real dons fan watches the huns or tims because “they are decent to watch”

Wise up 

That's the sort of comment I would expect from one of the bigot brother fans....

[afc1903mad]

16 hours ago, The beard of mcinnes said:

If scotland had voted yes, it would not have been in the EU so...

Bollox 

[Ten Caat]

1 hour ago, Yorston Vasey said:

When the Huns and Tims had Laudrup, the de Boers, van Bronckhorst, Arteta, Larsson, van Hooijdonk, Sutton, Moravcik etc. Those sorts of players were decent to watch.

Cant speak about anyone else but whenever I watched them it was always with the hope that a stray Russian nuke would suddenly land on the stadium and wipe the fuckers (and their rancid supporters) completely out

[strachanmcgheegoal]

1 hour ago, Yorston Vasey said:

Each to their own... as much as I hated watching Larsson put hat trick after hat trick in against us, I could still appreciate I was watching a special player. There were plenty of games involving the OF that we weren't in that I'd watched on telly back in the day and had similar thoughts also.

If we went up against Barcelona and were taken to bits by Messi, I'm sure I could still marvel at his ability rather than try and insist that Scott Wright was a talent more worthy of appreciation just because he was wearing a red shirt.

Do you not actually enjoy watching football for the sake of watching football?

Good thread actually.  Best player you’ve seen for the opposition.  Slightly tricky in that some you’ve maybe only seen once Rumingge, Steilike etc whereas others Laudrup, Larson etc we saw more of, regrettably.

Heres one totally off the wall.  McLeish’s testimonial had some belters Robson in his prime for instance.  But I was mesmerised by a short cameo by an ageing Dalgleish who I was too young to appreciate first time round.  Absolutely schooled our young loons round him, an arrogant as fuck D Robertson being one of them.

[Durrant Dived]

44 minutes ago, Ten Caat said:

Cant speak about anyone else but whenever I watched them it was always with the hope that a stray Russian nuke would suddenly land on the stadium and wipe the fuckers (and their rancid supporters) completely out

I'm still hoping.

[AllyDon]

2 hours ago, NEM said:

No real dons fan watches the huns or tims because “they are decent to watch”

Wise up 

100%. Only reason to even consider watching the filth play each other is for players losing the plot, fights, red cards and broken legs. 

Don't even get that much these days (bring back the good old days).