slippers Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 5 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: It would be naïve to think clubs don't talk to players agents usually before they make a move for them. And players themselves. Especially youth players like Fraser who have traveled to see other clubs while still under contract at Abeedeen without permission. Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 13 minutes ago, Tord31 said: Aberdeen will know fine how the clause works. Their theory will be leak the bid so that another european club makes the £500k bid and if we top it hopefully Hibs will see sense and take the extra money rather than being stubborn. He may or may not come but I'd be very surprised if he agrees to sign a new deal within the transfer window. Boyle will be a Dons man whether it's now, January or 2023. I hope you are right but if he does sign a new contact in the next day or so would you then admit it doesn't look like we have done our homework? Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 15 minutes ago, slippers said: You don't just sign a player in 24 hours, give the club a break. We knew there wouldn't be any signings to add to squad on Thursday but there will be 2/3 added with 1 or 2 going out before window shuts. Hopefully we make the groups and the additions are of real quality. I'm not saying that we should have been able to sign a player in 24 hours, I'm just saying we should have been talking to people and making plans just in case something was to happen. Maybe you are right and its all part of a long game and a fine plot which is fair enough if that is the case and I will hold my hands up and admit I have got this completely wrong. But if he does sign a new contract in the next day or so, and it is as has been reported today and we put in a bid not having known the details of the clause and we were surprised when the bid was rejected I just don't think this reflects well on us at all. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: I just don't think this reflects well on us at all. It happens all the time. Look at the Suarez bid from Arsenal. Got made a cunt of. Link to comment
Tord31 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 14 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: I hope you are right but if he does sign a new contact in the next day or so would you then admit it doesn't look like we have done our homework? 100% Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 26 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: I agree, so we knew the clause wouldn't be activated. We're obviously playing a game. Publicity stunt to appease the fans after going out of the cup. It'll probably backfire though, as other clubs won't deal cheaply with us if they now know we can afford a £500K transfer fee. I still think we'll bring in two more permanent signings plus a loanee before the window closes. If Ferguson or Hedges are sold, maybe another 1 on top of that. Glass will surely have seen by now that some of the squad can't be relied upon. 1 Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 27 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: I hope you are right but if he does sign a new contact in the next day or so would you then admit it doesn't look like we have done our homework? No it would mean Hibs have made him an offer to extend his contract that he finds acceptable. Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 21 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: It happens all the time. Look at the Suarez bid from Arsenal. Got made a cunt of. but if you have done your due diligence you won't get made a c#nt of. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 17 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: but if you have done your due diligence you won't get made a c#nt of. I just cannot believe that the club weren't in prior contact with Boyle's agent. Who would have found out quickly if Boyle was interested in joining us or not. Presumably as we then fired in a bid, the answer was "yes he is". Had he indicated he was happy at Hibs and wasn't interested in joining us, I'm sure we wouldn't have made an offer. Link to comment
Don_Corleone Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Ten Caat said: Had he indicated he was happy at Hibs and wasn't interested in joining us, I'm sure we wouldn't have made an offer. Unless it was just to show the fans that we're "trying" to bring in an exciting player, and "willing" to spend some money. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 10 minutes ago, Don_Corleone said: Unless it was just to show the fans that we're "trying" to bring in an exciting player, and "willing" to spend some money. We would surely try on a player that was actually interested in joining us then? Could have bid the same for Kerr, who would join us in a heart beat. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Surely we're trying to smoke out non Scottish clubs to trigger the clause then try to gazump them. That'll only work if Boyle is determined to come here over anywhere else and Hibs feel forced to sell. High risk strategy. Likelihood is he gets a new contract at Hibs with a pay rise as Hibs will ask us for too much for him. That 500k will turn to 7 figures pretty quickly and totally change the risk profile of the signing. Boyle and his agent hold all the cards here Link to comment
SupportmeansSUPPORT Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 18 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: Surely we're trying to smoke out non Scottish clubs to trigger the clause then try to gazump them. That'll only work if Boyle is determined to come here over anywhere else and Hibs feel forced to sell. High risk strategy. Likelihood is he gets a new contract at Hibs with a pay rise as Hibs will ask us for too much for him. That 500k will turn to 7 figures pretty quickly and totally change the risk profile of the signing. Boyle and his agent hold all the cards here according to the scotsman and some of the other journo's who seem to be close to the story we just decided to go for it and made an ambitious bid for him after Hedges was injured and thought we would be able to get him by bidding 500k but we had not done our due diligence so there was never any chance we would get him. . https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/power-plays-release-clauses-public-rejection-the-story-of-martin-boyle-hibs-aberdeen-and-a-very-probable-new-easter-road-deal-3350001 I applaud Cormack for his ambition with the move to bring in a top spl player and weaken a rival. But we really should be getting making sure we getting all the info and making sure we can do the deal before we take it further. My concern now would be that other clubs will be bumping up prices on other options we have. 1 Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Signed new deal at Hibs. 1 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, DelMonte said: Signed new deal at Hibs. That was quick. Makes us look a bit daft though. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, SupportmeansSUPPORT said: according to the scotsman and some of the other journo's who seem to be close to the story we just decided to go for it and made an ambitious bid for him after Hedges was injured and thought we would be able to get him by bidding 500k but we had not done our due dilligance so there was never any chance we would get him. . https://www.scotsman.com/sport/football/hibs/power-plays-release-clauses-public-rejection-the-story-of-martin-boyle-hibs-aberdeen-and-a-very-probable-new-easter-road-deal-3350001 I couldn't believe we'd be that naive but amazingly this might actually be the case Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Not really. Bid for player and it was rejected. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Just now, DelMonte said: Not really. Bid for player and it was rejected. I suppose. They were never going to accept 500k from us though were they? Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Fuck knows but club has every right to bid for a player. For what it’s worth he’d have been a good signing but commanded a big wage. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Aye. We are. We must have known he was on the verge of signing a new deal though. Maybe we thought they were more desperate for cash than they actually are. Link to comment
Joe pike Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 6 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: That was quick. Makes us look a bit daft though. You don't get if you don't ask. Link to comment
DelMonte Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 Be a lot of pant pishing amongst the fans anyway. Hibs will put that among their greatest ever achievements. There isn’t much to choose from I suppose. 2 Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 2 minutes ago, Joe pike said: You don't get if you don't ask. Aye. Let's put it down to a cheeky last minute punt. We move on. Wonder who's next on the list? Link to comment
dazzy_deff Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 4 hours ago, Tord31 said: Aberdeen will know fine how the clause works. Their theory will be leak the bid so that another european club makes the £500k bid and if we top it hopefully Hibs will see sense and take the extra money rather than being stubborn. He may or may not come but I'd be very surprised if he agrees to sign a new deal within the transfer window. Boyle will be a Dons man whether it's now, January or 2023. Is that right aye? Link to comment
Kincardine_Mearns_Red Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 The delusion of some Hivees fans is funny. You are not and never will be a bigger club than Aberdeen. 1 Link to comment
minijc Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 It's a good job this was just AFC trying to force the hand of another club for a player we actually want otherwise it would have been embarrassing. Link to comment
sooth_stander Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 What a strange 36 hours. Trying to get my head round it. Glass will get asked about it tonight at the pre match presser, maybe we never actually bid at all? Link to comment
NEM Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 3 minutes ago, minijc said: It's a good job this was just AFC trying to force the hand of another club for a player we actually want otherwise it would have been embarrassing. McGrath? Link to comment
Granite95 Posted August 18, 2021 Share Posted August 18, 2021 7 minutes ago, Kincardine_Mearns_Red said: The delusion of some Hivees fans is funny. You are not and never will be a bigger club than Aberdeen. It's quite funny hearing Hibees say they are. Not even the biggest club in Edinburgh ffs 1 Link to comment
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