Guest Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 8 hours ago, paddy said: As long as we keep getting the odd result and no end up in the bottom two, Glass will be safe. It’s clear Cormack feels this season is a write-off anyway, and wants to give him a chance. Just how bad things need to get before the chairman finally sees sense remains to be seen. Dire stuff. Well Paddy, as things stand, bottom two is certainly a possibility. Should DC back his puppet for the whole season, in the hope we don't sniff relegation, the egotistic twat could lose any remaining good will he may still have with the support. Hopefully he will come to his senses before this becomes a serious car crash of a situation!!!! Link to comment
redcryptoknight Posted November 22, 2021 Share Posted November 22, 2021 On 11/21/2021 at 1:25 PM, Crossbow said: Blah blah blah Nothing you've added makes your absolutely shite patter any less shite. Still, I'm sure you won't be the last one to post the exact same thing. Link to comment
starryfish Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 He deserves to be feeling the heat right now but he seems to be getting an easy time of it. 1 Link to comment
Tyzo_1903 Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 Us doing well in the Scottish Cup is his only hope of surviving. We are going to struggle for top 6 by the looks of it. Link to comment
thurso Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 27 minutes ago, Tyzo_1903 said: Us doing well in the Scottish Cup is his only hope of surviving. We are going to struggle for top 6 by the looks of it. Gotta look on the positives we are only a point of top 6 Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 12 minutes ago, thurso said: Gotta look on the positives we are only a point of top 6 Whoopey doo. Let’s break out the bunting. We have comfortably the 3rd largest budget. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 40 minutes ago, Tyzo_1903 said: Us doing well in the Scottish Cup is his only hope of surviving. We are going to struggle for top 6 by the looks of it. Do we need to speculate until January? Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, starryfish said: He deserves to be feeling the heat right now but he seems to be getting an easy time of it. Most will forgive a defeat against the Tims. The next two games after that are Livingston & St Mirren at home. It’ll be a different story if we don’t get two wins there. 1 Link to comment
thurso Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Whoopey doo. Let’s break out the bunting. We have comfortably the 3rd largest budget. Budgets mean nothing. That’s why we have a chance on Sunday Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 22 minutes ago, thurso said: Budgets mean nothing. Nonsense. This is why the richest teams win most of the time. Link to comment
thurso Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 33 minutes ago, Parklife said: Nonsense. This is why the richest teams win most of the time. Most yes but not all. If it was all about budgets you would just go by that and hearts wouldnt of been relegated twice in the last 5 years Link to comment
shooftahmooftah Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, Tyzo_1903 said: Us doing well in the Scottish Cup is his only hope of surviving. We are going to struggle for top 6 by the looks of it. Not if its Arbroath or Cove Rangers In the cup. Link to comment
Parklife Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 9 minutes ago, thurso said: Most yes but not all. If it was all about budgets you would just go by that and hearts wouldnt of been relegated twice in the last 5 years It's not "all about" budgets. But it's definitely the most important factor in who wins and who loses. Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 3 minutes ago, thurso said: Most yes but not all. If it was all about budgets you would just go by that and hearts wouldnt of been relegated twice in the last 5 years If it wasn't all about the budgets then why have only oldco/sevco and Celtic won the league in the past 35 years? The longest run of champions without a winner from "provincial" clubs ever. The previous longest run was of 27 consecutive championships between them way back from 1905 to 1931 They don't win all the cups because they're essentially sprint competitions and they can occasionally draw each other before the final leaving provincial teams only to deal with one half of them. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 1 hour ago, thurso said: Budgets mean nothing. That’s why we have a chance on Sunday To say budgets “mean nothing” is nonsense. Look around the league tables in Europe. Link to comment
thurso Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 16 minutes ago, Ten Caat said: If it wasn't all about the budgets then why have only oldco/sevco and Celtic won the league in the past 35 years? The longest run of champions without a winner from "provincial" clubs ever. The previous longest run was of 27 consecutive championships between them way back from 1905 to 1931 They don't win all the cups because they're essentially sprint competitions and they can occasionally draw each other before the final leaving provincial teams only to deal with one half of them. Yes that is a terrible stat but in the 90’s I recon we should of won the league twice and I’m pretty sure we didn’t have the highest budget in any of those seasons. 14 minutes ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: To say budgets “mean nothing” is nonsense. Look around the league tables in Europe. In leagues around Europe there are teams in the leagues that are doing far worse with bigger budgets than ones above them. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted November 25, 2021 Author Share Posted November 25, 2021 15 minutes ago, thurso said: Yes that is a terrible stat but in the 90’s I recon we should of won the league twice and I’m pretty sure we didn’t have the highest budget in any of those seasons. In leagues around Europe there are teams in the leagues that are doing far worse with bigger budgets than ones above them. You can’t say “budgets mean nothing”. That’s just daft, come on. They’re a fairly decent guide how leagues end up. So they do mean something. Link to comment
NEM Posted November 25, 2021 Share Posted November 25, 2021 2 hours ago, thurso said: Most yes but not all. If it was all about budgets you would just go by that and hearts wouldnt of been relegated twice in the last 5 years Hearts and Hibs are tinpot shite though. Hardly a new thing them yo-yoing between divisions Link to comment
Dons79 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 If it was ALL about budgets then the likes of Leicester wouldn’t have won the league that year, must have been 6 teams at least with better budgets, as did Donetsk last year,Kiev won as did the Italian league, inter won, as did Copenhagen, mijtland won, plenty of teams that underperformed and didn’t win the league fucks sake Lille won the league a couple of years ago with Paris in it,with mbappe,neymar etc. The difference is in those countries they aren’t skewed to only have their biggest teams win it if a Roy of the rovers type story happens unlike our tinpot country. Any chance of an upset and the media would go into overdrive as would the lovely unbiased refs!.unless bigotry and bias is cleaned up,(in all aspects)their won’t be another winner other than those 2 for the next 40 years. Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? Link to comment
Dons79 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 25 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said: Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? Look at Ukrainian football, since the inception of their league in 92 (post communism) it’s only been shakhtar Donetsk and Dynamo Kiev that’s won the league since 1992.shows what happens when a league gets corrupted, obviously that’s more political than bigotry but same results 1 Link to comment
Guest Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said: Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? Yep, until such a time that a Fergie type character, with an axe to grind against the arse cheeks, manages a provincial club. He never took second best at Dons or Man United. Otherwise the only way a non arse cheek club is going to win league is a) if the arse cheeks fuck off to England or b) foreign refs are employed. Link to comment
don corleone Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said: Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? Yes. Unless there is substantial investment in a significant number of other clubs in the top league, and I can't see that happening any time soon with that clown Doncaster at the helm, Happy to accept sky's pocket change for a TV deal (I assume that the top two teams still split the majority of this) and barely manages to get sponsorship deals. Scottish football desperately needs teams like Aberdeen, hibs, hearts and Dundee United to be capable of putting in a challenge, however due the the powers that be, the game in Scotland has over the last 20 odd years been engineered to ensure that only two clubs can win. Link to comment
DD1903 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, Dons79 said: If it was ALL about budgets then the likes of Leicester wouldn’t have won the league that year, must have been 6 teams at least with better budgets, as did Donetsk last year,Kiev won as did the Italian league, inter won, as did Copenhagen, mijtland won, plenty of teams that underperformed and didn’t win the league fucks sake Lille won the league a couple of years ago with Paris in it,with mbappe,neymar etc. The difference is in those countries they aren’t skewed to only have their biggest teams win it if a Roy of the rovers type story happens unlike our tinpot country. Any chance of an upset and the media would go into overdrive as would the lovely unbiased refs!.unless bigotry and bias is cleaned up,(in all aspects)their won’t be another winner other than those 2 for the next 40 years. So apart from these odd occasions, how have these leagues gone over the last, say 15-20 years? Ps inter are hardly a team with a small budget... Link to comment
Ten Caat Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said: Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? The evidence points to that being the case. For someone else to win it, either there would have to be a serious alteration in the rules to restrict their financial advantage (extremely unlikely)........or a club up here manages to attract a seriously wealthy new owner who lobs in massive wedges of cash (and the SFA don't suddenly decide to then change the rules because of it to protect the interests of their favoured duo).......or the arse cheeks fuck off to a new league elsewhere (without having the rules altered to suddenly allow their colts sides to progress through the league system) Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 A larger league with teams playing each other twice would be the best way for other teams to compete. 3 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 33 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: A larger league with teams playing each other twice would be the best way for other teams to compete. 2 leagues of 20! , 4 up and 4 down. Unfortunately turkeys don’t vote for Christmas Link to comment
slippers Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 3 hours ago, ericblack4boss said: Is anyone thinking it's seriously possible that only Celtic or rangers will ever win the league again, ? I think it’s possible but need to get very lucky with recruitment and Celtic and rangers have a bit of a dodgy season. Our biggest problem is that it won’t be long until 1 if not both are in the CL every season while we can’t even make the conference. It’s all very well then saying we benefit from a strong coefficient but the 5m benefit to us if we qualify is outweighed by OF getting a extra 40m each. I’d rather none of us got into Europe as it would hurt them way more than us. Link to comment
Dons79 Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 2 hours ago, DD1903 said: So apart from these odd occasions, how have these leagues gone over the last, say 15-20 years? Ps inter are hardly a team with a small budget... Odd occasion ? So Ukraine for an example, since 1992 bud, that long enough?,more than odd occasion?? only been Kiev and Donetsk, similar to us in that’s the only 2, Ukrainian tv and football chiefs care about, similarities are there, how long since a Scottish team has won the league already?, other than the bigot brothers?. Link to comment
afc1903mad Posted November 26, 2021 Share Posted November 26, 2021 7 minutes ago, Dons79 said: Odd occasion ? So Ukraine for an example, since 1992 bud, that long enough?,more than odd occasion?? only been Kiev and Donetsk, similar to us in that’s the only 2, Ukrainian tv and football chiefs care about, similarities are there, how long since a Scottish team has won the league already?, other than the bigot brothers?. Surely you know that answer Link to comment
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