What's a fair wage?

[daytripping]

Tory MP asks for payrise as living on £82k a year can be 'really grim' | Metro News

I find myself agreeing with Sir Peter on this one, £82k a year for an MP really isn't a huge amount of money considering how long they're away from home and the hours they put in. They should at least be on a par with doctors.

It also begs the question of what is an acceptable wage for anyone doing a job, I think the minimum is far too low, if businesses can't afford to pay people what they need to live on then they shouldn't be employing people, I'd say £15 an hour should be a base. I'd also say the average wage should be nearer £50k instead of the current £30, as Boris said yesterday, we should be aiming for a high skilled high paid workforce. People shouldn't have to scrape by. It's time for change, hopefully Boris will deliver.

[daytripping]

£8.36 is the current minimum wage, how does anyone pay bills and survive on that? Nicola should be ashamed.

[daytripping]

2 minutes ago, Roberto said:

Pull the other one min.

Or change tact.

I'm not on the wind up here, I'm saying people should be paid more. 

[daytripping]

@Bebo

Please move to the correct forum, should be in the pub. Thank you.

[ericblack4boss]

Is £17 per week to be a sleekit cunt fair

[daytripping]

3 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said:

Is £17 per week to be a sleekit cunt fair

I'd need the context but hopefully that person only works one day a week.

[ericblack4boss]

1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said:

Is £17 per week to be a sleekit cunt fair

Fuck I meant £17 grand a week for a sleekit cunt

[Redforever86]

Can we get this topic moved to a forum where Consi can’t post on it. 

[Parklife]

Capitalism dictates that fairness is completely irrelevant. "Fair" isn't a concept thats compatible with the economic system that we operate within. People's wage is as little as the corporations, many whose sole aim is maximum profit, can get away with paying. 

 

[BrianFaePerth]

£82k LOL

[Henry]

16 minutes ago, BrianFaePerth said:

£4.50 the initial hire, and then £2 a mile after. Double for weekend evenings and the festive period.

Seems reasonable. 

[Guest]

4 hours ago, daytripping said:

Tory MP asks for payrise as living on £82k a year can be 'really grim' | Metro News

I find myself agreeing with Sir Peter on this one, £82k a year for an MP really isn't a huge amount of money considering how long they're away from home and the hours they put in. They should at least be on a par with doctors.

It also begs the question of what is an acceptable wage for anyone doing a job, I think the minimum is far too low, if businesses can't afford to pay people what they need to live on then they shouldn't be employing people, I'd say £15 an hour should be a base. I'd also say the average wage should be nearer £50k instead of the current £30, as Boris said yesterday, we should be aiming for a high skilled high paid workforce. People shouldn't have to scrape by. It's time for change, hopefully Boris will deliver.

I am aware you're on the wind up, but couldn't let this go without pointing out the fact that Sir Peter claimed 159,000 in expenses as well. 

 

 

[Guest]

1 hour ago, Redforever86 said:

Can we get this topic moved to a forum where Consi can’t post on it. 

Keeping my beak out...mostly!

[manboobs109]

Hopefully we're about to go through a period of wages going up. I read about fruit pickers getting paid £20 an hour the other week as if that's a bad thing? We're a strange country.

[manboobs109]

I remember getting £3.75 an hour with a 75p an hour "attendance bonus" you got if you weren't late or off sick the previous week. If you did overtime it was an extra £40 and that got you a half decent night out at the time. Income tax allowance was about 3 grand a year so you got taxed to the balls.

[Guest]

3 minutes ago, manboobs109 said:

I remember getting £3.75 an hour with a 75p an hour "attendance bonus" you got if you weren't late or off sick the previous week. If you did overtime it was an extra £40 and that got you a half decent night out at the time. Income tax allowance was about 3 grand a year so you got taxed to the balls.

For picking fruit?

[Guest]

Just now, manboobs109 said:

No although I've done the berries plenty. Used to get paid by weight. Raspberries were easy as fuck, Strawbs not so much.

If you were getting paid by weight you'd be minted! 
 

Haha!

[manboobs109]

1 minute ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

For picking fruit?

No although I've done the berries plenty. Used to get paid by weight. Raspberries were easy as fuck, Strawbs not so much.

[Guest]

I used to get £3.50 an hour working as a KP in a restaurant. Awful job. Boss was a hun cunt, used to run with the ASC but started supporting Rangers in the 90's and pretended he was true blue. He was part owner and him/the other chef used to keep all the tips to themselves. We were on buttons and spoken to/treated like shit. 
 

It gave me a good idea of what the working world was like. Full of cunts and totally and utterly unrewarding. 
 

 

 

[manboobs109]

10 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

I used to get £3.50 an hour working as a KP in a restaurant. Awful job. Boss was a hun cunt, used to run with the ASC but started supporting Rangers in the 90's and pretended he was true blue. He was part owner and him/the other chef used to keep all the tips to themselves. We were on buttons and spoken to/treated like shit. 
 

It gave me a good idea of what the working world was like. Full of cunts and totally and utterly unrewarding. 
 

 

 

Name and shame Consi, that sounds particularly bad. You need to get yersel in wi the council. Easy number, decent conditions, you could get in wi the union it'd suit you down to the ground.

Edit - meant to be taking on 500 or so at the new dole place in Dundee. That will be a cushy as fuck number.

 

[Poodler]

9 minutes ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

I used to get £3.50 an hour working as a KP in a restaurant. Awful job. Boss was a hun cunt, used to run with the ASC but started supporting Rangers in the 90's and pretended he was true blue. He was part owner and him/the other chef used to keep all the tips to themselves. We were on buttons and spoken to/treated like shit. 
 

It gave me a good idea of what the working world was like. Full of cunts and totally and utterly unrewarding. 
 

 

 

The DH?

[Guest]

Just now, manboobs109 said:

Name and shame Consi, that sounds particularly bad. You need to get yersel in wi the council. Easy number, decent conditions, you could get in wi the union it'd suit you down to the ground.

 

It was about 10 years ago. 
 

I had no idea, I thought everywhere else was like that. Eventually just never went back. 
 

Hated that place, proper stunk every time I came home. 

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Poodler said:

The DH?

GT

[Guest]

Just now, Parklife said:

People will mainly be saying it's bad because the cost of living is going up by more than wage rises. 

Far, far more. 
 

 

[manboobs109]

7 minutes ago, Sooper-hanz said:

See Parkie’s post which was bang on. Supply and demand . 

My point is though people moan about low wages then when they hear about wages going up they say it's a bad thing because there's a labour shortage.

[Parklife]

1 minute ago, manboobs109 said:

My point is though people moan about low wages then when they hear about wages going up they say it's a bad thing because there's a labour shortage.

People will mainly be saying it's bad because the cost of living is going up by more than wage rises. 

[Betty Swallicks]

I'd rather take home less and get better public services. 

The Noggies have it spot on. 

High tax is good. Brits like low taxes but then spend their dough on absolute shite.

[Guest]

4 minutes ago, Betty Swallicks said:

I'd rather take home less and get better public services. 

The Noggies have it spot on. 

High tax is good. Brits like low taxes but then spend their dough on absolute shite.

https://www.google.co.uk/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/news/2021/oct/04/pandora-papers-at-a-glance Generally speaking, if we aggressively went after the mega rich, you could take home the same- and have better public services yet. 
 

Doesn't have to be one or the other 

[Ke1t]

The Chinese are planning to implement policies that will address the growing gap between rich and poor, an issue the West ignores.

Surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, their corporations are on board because they understand how this shit works. 

I've always said Socialism, or variations of, is the only sustainable long-term policy. 

"but when the push towards more companies publicly backing Xi Jinping's new vision first started, it did come as a "bit of a shock", one major Chinese company told me privately.

"But then we got quite used to the idea. It's not about robbing the rich. It's about restructuring society, and building up the middle class. And we are a consumption business at the end of the day - so it's good for us."

[Poodler]

1 hour ago, ConsiCanBoogie1903 said:

GT

Never rated that place. Good on ya