aberdeen1970 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, WesthillWanderersFC said: Phil Neville was invariably a liability Neale Cooper would be a better example ? Played centre mid, centre back, right back & very occasionally left back. No-one questioned it back then Nah, Phil Neville made a career out of being second or third choice in a number of positions in a dominating Manchester United team and got hundreds of games. No shame in that. He made his versatility a strength to sustain a career. Folk focus on a couple of high profile mistakes for England. Need to have a broader view than that. Neale Cooper is another good example though. Link to comment
caledonia Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 No complaints yesterday played excellent and scored a few goals. So far this looks like a great transfer window As others have said wish Scales was permanent and not a loan Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, Daisy1903 said: sea biscuit great movie that Link to comment
Ando Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, aberdeen1970 said: Nah, Phil Neville made a career out of being second or third choice in a number of positions in a dominating Manchester United team and got hundreds of games. No shame in that. He made his versatility a strength to sustain a career. Folk focus on a couple of high profile mistakes for England. Need to have a broader view than that. Neale Cooper is another good example though. A hun mate had a spare ticket for Rangers v Man Utd in the Champions League back in 2003, so I went along for the hell of it. Phil Neville will always have a place in my heart for sliding through the hun defence in the first few minutes like a hot knife through butter and slotting home. The orc hordes were raging, which was nice Link to comment
RAZOR Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: Our loans are always class or absolutely shite with nothing in between and he looks class Deserved a good one after all the shite we've suffered through. Pleasing performance yesterday. A million miles away from last season. Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 I know he looks comfortable everywhere but why are people desperate for scales to play left back? Ramadani and McCrorie in the middle of the park should start every week, let the forward line attack and they can do the defensive stuff. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: I know he looks comfortable everywhere but why are people desperate for scales to play left back? Probably because the 2 left backs are injured and no one really wants Jonny to have to play there. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 hours ago, Big Hat Logan said: I know he looks comfortable everywhere but why are people desperate for scales to play left back? Ramadani and McCrorie in the middle of the park should start every week, let the forward line attack and they can do the defensive stuff. Don't think anyone is desperate for him to play there tbh. Coulson looks like he'll be out for a few weeks and Scales would be the natural choice to replace him at left back. Putting Hayes there should be a non starter. He seems to have a good thing going with Miovski already. Keep him further up the pitch. And until MacKenzie is fit we have no other options for left back. Link to comment
muttonhumper Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Don't think anyone is desperate for him to play there tbh. Coulson looks like he'll be out for a few weeks and Scales would be the natural choice to replace him at left back. Putting Hayes there should be a non starter. He seems to have a good thing going with Miovski already. Keep him further up the pitch. And until MacKenzie is fit we have no other options for left back. Mackenzie quite close to return allegedly. Would rather he didn't start tho, and prefer the idea of a Scales LB, McRorie CB, Clarkson in midfield rather than any of them dropping out to accommodate. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, muttonhumper said: Mackenzie quite close to return allegedly. Would rather he didn't start tho, and prefer the idea of a Scales LB, McRorie CB, Clarkson in midfield rather than any of them dropping out to accommodate. agreed but also think a back 3 of McRorie , Stewart and Scales would be good Link to comment
Shinniesta Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 3 minutes ago, redstrummer said: agreed but also think a back 3 of McRorie , Stewart and Scales would be good Going by what Goodwin has said previously he definitely likes playing with a back 4 so not sure we will see us playing with a back 3 too often. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, muttonhumper said: Mackenzie quite close to return allegedly. Would rather he didn't start tho, and prefer the idea of a Scales LB, McRorie CB, Clarkson in midfield rather than any of them dropping out to accommodate. That's what i'd go with aswell. Then means if McCrorie went to centre back we could still accomodate Barron in midfield alongside Ramadani and Clarkson if we went with 3 in the middle. 6 minutes ago, redstrummer said: agreed but also think a back 3 of McRorie , Stewart and Scales would be good Who do you play LWB with Coulson out though? Do you play Hayes there and Play Duk or Morris further up? Link to comment
ericblack4boss Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Who were our previous utility players. Cooper. Angus. Falconer, What about Mason could player out wide, a a striker, central midfield,? Seems to be a dying art the " utility player" Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 4 minutes ago, Shinniesta said: Going by what Goodwin has said previously he definitely likes playing with a back 4 so not sure we will see us playing with a back 3 too often. playing against 10 yesterday I though it was a good time to try that formation and get 2 strikers on . He eventually did it late on Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 11 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Who do you play LWB with Coulson out though? No. One. You stick with a back 4 Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: No. One. You stick with a back 4 That wasn't the question. The other poster said Scales, Stewart and McCrorie could play in a 3. So my question was who do you play wing back? FWIW, i don't think Goodwin will play a 3. Think he done it at St Mirren last season and thry bombed while playing it so think he'll have learned his lesson there. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 12 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: That wasn't the question. The other poster said Scales, Stewart and McCrorie could play in a 3. So my question was who do you play wing back? I don't think we have a proper left wing back so that's why I wouldn't play a 3 at the back. Jonny is playing well in an advanced position so why fuck about with it. We need to build up an understanding with the players we have signed. Switching from a back 4 to a back 3 is a crazy idea. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 35 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: That's what i'd go with aswell. Then means if McCrorie went to centre back we could still accomodate Barron in midfield alongside Ramadani and Clarkson if we went with 3 in the middle. Who do you play LWB with Coulson out though? Do you play Hayes there and Play Duk or Morris further up? we have a lot of wing back options Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 2 minutes ago, aberdeen1970 said: I don't think we have a proper left wing back so that's why I wouldn't play a 3 at the back. We need to build up an understanding with the players we have signed. Switching from a back 4 to a back 3 is a crazy idea. That's why I asked who he'd play there. Because like you say we don't have a LWB. I wouldn't play Hayes there because you then completely lose his effectiveness further up the park. MacKenzie, when fit, isn't attack mind enough to play there. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Just now, redstrummer said: we have a lot of wing back options Like who? Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 17 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Like who? well on the left side Hayes and Duncan on the right plenty too , I'm forgetting the names of all the new signings but Morris and Richardson Link to comment
Big Hat Logan Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 1 hour ago, AyrshireSheep said: Don't think anyone is desperate for him to play there tbh. Coulson looks like he'll be out for a few weeks and Scales would be the natural choice to replace him at left back. Putting Hayes there should be a non starter. He seems to have a good thing going with Miovski already. Keep him further up the pitch. And until MacKenzie is fit we have no other options for left back. McKenzie shouldn’t be too long I believe. I would rather we developed him at left back and kept Scales at centre half. Hayes is always better further up the pitch, at his age I would rather he had less defensive duties. Scales will be capable in the meantime but I really want him and Stewart to dominate shite like Van Veen and all the other hammer throwers that ragdolled Gallagher and Bates last season. I don’t think there’s that many quick and skilful wingers in this league out with the OF and we lost so many goals at set pieces and through the middle last season, stupid mistakes and shite defending Link to comment
Guest findlay_1903 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Did everyone enjoy themselves that went to the match? Gutted I never went, couldn’t give my ST away either. What like was the crowd?! DTID. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 27 minutes ago, redstrummer said: well on the left side Hayes and Duncan on the right plenty too , I'm forgetting the names of all the new signings but Morris and Richardson Duncan is a winger. So is Hayes. Hayes could play there but you lose any effectiveness he has by playing him as a wing back. Morris is also a winger. Not even close to being a wing back. Next you'll be saying we can play Ramirez at wing back since he can't get a game up front. You've had a mare here pal. Stop. Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 8 minutes ago, Big Hat Logan said: McKenzie shouldn’t be too long I believe. I would rather we developed him at left back and kept Scales at centre half. Hayes is always better further up the pitch, at his age I would rather he had less defensive duties. Scales will be capable in the meantime but I really want him and Stewart to dominate shite like Van Veen and all the other hammer throwers that ragdolled Gallagher and Bates last season. I don’t think there’s that many quick and skilful wingers in this league out with the OF and we lost so many goals at set pieces and through the middle last season, stupid mistakes and shite defending Aye i defenitely want Stewart and Scales in the middle of the defence. Neither of those 2 will get bitch slapped by the pot smoking monkey like Gallagher and Bates did. Stewart will have his number all day long. But whilst Coulson is out i think Scales will move to left back. Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 18 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Duncan is a winger. So is Hayes. Hayes could play there but you lose any effectiveness he has by playing him as a wing back. Morris is also a winger. Not even close to being a wing back. Next you'll be saying we can play Ramirez at wing back since he can't get a game up front. You've had a mare here pal. Stop. your speaking shite , all 4 of those players mentioned are capable of playing wing backs , it's an attacking role ffs , off you pop dick head 1 Link to comment
redstrummer Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 20 minutes ago, AyrshireSheep said: Duncan is a winger. So is Hayes. Hayes could play there but you lose any effectiveness he has by playing him as a wing back. Morris is also a winger. Not even close to being a wing back. Next you'll be saying we can play Ramirez at wing back since he can't get a game up front. You've had a mare here pal. Stop. Rameriz is a striker you fucking pap Link to comment
AyrshireSheep Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 10 minutes ago, redstrummer said: your speaking shite , all 4 of those players mentioned are capable of playing wing backs , it's an attacking role ffs , off you pop dick head A wing back has to be capable of fucking defending. We've tried McLennan and Kennedy at wing back in recent seasons both of which worked out so well didn't they? Fucking hell. I'll bet if you put a poll up here asking if fans think Duncan & Morris could play wing back i suspect you'll be proved to be talking out your hole. We haven't even tried Duncan in his favoured position as a winger yet for any meaningful length of time yet you'd be happy throwing him in as a wing back where he's not played a single minute? Along with Morris? No bother Mr McInnes. That is your name right? Fucking fanny. 10 minutes ago, redstrummer said: Rameriz is a striker you fucking pap Irony evidently lost on you ya fucking knucklehead. Link to comment
aberdeen1970 Posted August 7, 2022 Share Posted August 7, 2022 Insults aside, changing the formation completely for a home game against Motherwell after a relatively settled start to the season with a group of new players feels a tad drastic. I think we'd have more players potentially out of position moving to a back 3 for next Saturday than we would if we just had a wee tweak and moved Scales across and dropped McCrorie back. Link to comment
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