Life Without the Ugly Sisters

[Ramandu]

Sometimes I allow myself to dream of a better world. A world of peace, love and prosperity for all mankind. "What would this world look like?", I think to myself. "And more importantly, what would the Cinch Premiership look like?"

I can tell you: It would be pretty much the same, except it wouldn't have the ugly sisters in it. I don't care where they go, off to some other league, or fired out of a canon into the sun. But imagine they were gone...

I was planning to make a league table to let you see into this better universe, but someone on Twitter has already made it. In that universe, the famous just won the league. 

 

 

[Fridge]

It is a bit of a double edged sword though, was brilliant during the Sevco years. But also it is the best fixture regardless of the result. Hype around it and smacking some Huns. Fucking ace fun.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

What strikes me is how close that is to the existing table.  You could argue their benefit/burden is shared equally.

[Sheep Shagger]

I know how you feel. 

I hate them both. A league without them would be great for all the other teams in Scotland.

A competitive and unpredictable league would be utter box office. Like the Scottish Championship, anyone could win, but so much better. 

 

[BrisDon]

I’d much rather have a league like it was up til the mid 90s. Don’t have an issue with the horrible cunts being the dominant clubs (makes it all the sweeter when you get one over them); the problem is no one else has a chance. 

I think that if you look where ourselves and the Edinburgh clubs are off the pitch at the moment, there’s an opportunity for someone to challenge over the next decade. I don’t mean £ for £ but I reckon if we could consistently get to ~1/3 of their revenue it would give us an outside chance and over a few seasons law of averages comes into play. 

Obviously I want that to be us and Europe could prove crucial this season. 

[maryhilldon]

5 minutes ago, BrisDon said:

I’d much rather have a league like it was up til the mid 90s. Don’t have an issue with the horrible cunts being the dominant clubs (makes it all the sweeter when you get one over them); the problem is no one else has a chance. 

I think that if you look where ourselves and the Edinburgh clubs are off the pitch at the moment, there’s an opportunity for someone to challenge over the next decade. I don’t mean £ for £ but I reckon if we could consistently get to ~1/3 of their revenue it would give us an outside chance and over a few seasons law of averages comes into play. 

Obviously I want that to be us and Europe could prove crucial this season. 

Don't be daft. No one's getting near them unless a billionaire arab or suchlike decides they want a new hobby. Income generated by the club will never be enough.

[maryhilldon]

As soon as we get a half decent player they fuck off at the first decent offer, it's impossible to build a title winning side. The 80s ain't coming back.

[englishred]

22 minutes ago, BrisDon said:

I’d much rather have a league like it was up til the mid 90s. Don’t have an issue with the horrible cunts being the dominant clubs (makes it all the sweeter when you get one over them); the problem is no one else has a chance. 

I think that if you look where ourselves and the Edinburgh clubs are off the pitch at the moment, there’s an opportunity for someone to challenge over the next decade. I don’t mean £ for £ but I reckon if we could consistently get to ~1/3 of their revenue it would give us an outside chance and over a few seasons law of averages comes into play. 

Obviously I want that to be us and Europe could prove crucial this season. 

I agree with the Europe point.  That is the only way of making quick and decent money which in turn could pull us away from the chasing pack but slightly closer to them.  Lets face it they have a ceiling too as decent players will either not want to join them or use it for a jump to England,   but the reality is as a couple of others have said closing the gap is one thing but actually winning the title for example is near on impossible as they can afford better players and can afford to carry bigger squads with better quality throughout.  Its going to take massive investment from someone.  I'd love to see it happen but for now the mega rich are looking solely at the EPL.  

I guess in theory someone with big bucks could put a relatively small amount in and we'd be challenging the big two ( i say relative in super rich terms)  as they have both have money but not anything near what many clubs even in the championship have.  

[BrisDon]

1 hour ago, maryhilldon said:

Don't be daft. No one's getting near them unless a billionaire arab or suchlike decides they want a new hobby. Income generated by the club will never be enough.

I look at it in terms of odds. At the beginning of the season Hearts were 3rd favourites at 66/1 which is probably about right based on the fact that there has barely been a serious challenge to the top 2 since the mid 90s (last time was probably Hearts in 98 and before that us in 93 and 94). 
 

At what level of revenue gap would those odds narrow to say 10/1 or 20/1? At those odds you can start thinking of a club as realistic outsiders. Obviously you would need to sustain that for a decade or more to have a realistic chance. Not suggesting the 80s will happen again but let’s be honest if you were offered now that the Dons would win the league only once in the next 20 years you would take that without thinking. 

I would say we weren’t that far off in the best part of the McInnes years (obviously helped with no Rangers and the Edinburgh clubs getting relegated) but it was the age old problem of not being able to replace like with like when top performers left the club. 
 

 

 

[BrisDon]

Another problem is that we have to play them each 4 times a season. I don’t see any reason not to move to a 16 or 18 team league. Fewer games, too many pointless games blah blah blah. 16 teams splitting into two after 2 games each = 37 matches. Have more relegation (minimum 3 spots) to keep it interesting. 
 

[ericblack4boss]

The opportunity was the Ronnie Diela era.

But that sleekit, orange 🍊, Hun cunt  shat it.

[Guest]

7 hours ago, maryhilldon said:

As soon as we get a half decent player they fuck off at the first decent offer, it's impossible to build a title winning side. The 80s ain't coming back.

If you look at some the fashion maybe it is 🤢 

But in football terms, you are correct. 

[fine-n-dandy]

8 hours ago, Fridge said:

It is a bit of a double edged sword though, was brilliant during the Sevco years. But also it is the best fixture regardless of the result. Hype around it and smacking some Huns. Fucking ace fun.

Plenty Huns to smack on a wee daily basis in Aberdeen. 

[Ramandu]

8 hours ago, Fridge said:

It is a bit of a double edged sword though, was brilliant during the Sevco years. But also it is the best fixture regardless of the result. Hype around it and smacking some Huns. Fucking ace fun.

The pros would far outweigh anything you'd miss. Think about how good the last month or so would have been if it had been a title charge. 

We were closer to bottom than to second this season, and the last time someone else had a decent title challenge (nevermind winning it) I was younger than my children are now. So they effectively play in a different league from everyone already. I'd just like them to actually play in a different league. 

Trust me, we would not miss them.

[Fridge]

6 hours ago, BrisDon said:

Another problem is that we have to play them each 4 times a season. I don’t see any reason not to move to a 16 or 18 team league. Fewer games, too many pointless games blah blah blah. 16 teams splitting into two after 2 games each = 37 matches. Have more relegation (minimum 3 spots) to keep it interesting. 
 

This was ridiculously voted against as clubs wanted 4 games at home against the two scumbags for revenue.

[strachanmcgheegoal]

1 hour ago, ericblack4boss said:

The opportunity was the Ronnie Diela era.

But that sleekit, orange 🍊, Hun cunt  shat it.

Wouldn’t say he shat it.  Just never believed it was possible in the first place.  And that was with Ward and Rooney.

[BrisDon]

1 hour ago, strachanmcgheegoal said:

Wouldn’t say he shat it.  Just never believed it was possible in the first place.  And that was with Ward and Rooney.

We always had the odd weak link in that team. And the odd shite loan making up the numbers of the squad. Starting XI was never quite strong enough never mind strength in depth. 
If you think of our best players of the McInnes era, if we had them all at their peak at the same time then maybe we would have had a chance. 
 

[ericblack4boss]

3 hours ago, BrisDon said:

We always had the odd weak link in that team. And the odd shite loan making up the numbers of the squad. Starting XI was never quite strong enough never mind strength in depth. 
If you think of our best players of the McInnes era, if we had them all at their peak at the same time then maybe we would have had a chance. 
 

No chance with his fucking attitude, he knew his place not rocking the applecart, that's why the weegie press corps love the cunt so much

[dj_bollocks]

How the fuck does that table even work ?

10 teams means play reach other 4 times so 36 games... Unless they've split it into a Top 4 and a Bottom 6 or.... Nope I can't figure out what the fuck they've done there...

[BrisDon]

7 minutes ago, dj_bollocks said:

How the fuck does that table even work ?

10 teams means play reach other 4 times so 36 games... Unless they've split it into a Top 4 and a Bottom 6 or.... Nope I can't figure out what the fuck they've done there...

It’s just the league table if you remove any matches involving Celtic or Rangers.

 

[dj_bollocks]

4 minutes ago, BrisDon said:

It’s just the league table if you remove any matches involving Celtic or Rangers.

 

I see... Well let's just have 30/1 games against St Johnstone if we're making it up as we go along then please...

 

[RabidGiraffe]

Celtic have won 11 of the last 12 titles.  The one they lost was because Lennon blew it.  With their financial clout they could easily win the next 12 unless they employ another Lennon or lose a ton of cash.  Sad thing is that is what is most likely to bring about change to give other teams the chance of challenging, when the footballing powers realise their favourite team can't win it either.

[englishred]

1 hour ago, RabidGiraffe said:

Celtic have won 11 of the last 12 titles.  The one they lost was because Lennon blew it.  With their financial clout they could easily win the next 12 unless they employ another Lennon or lose a ton of cash.  Sad thing is that is what is most likely to bring about change to give other teams the chance of challenging, when the footballing powers realise their favourite team can't win it either.

This is exactly it. That's all anyone can hope for. Then we can have more weight behind change as sevco we need the rest of us to help back it 

[ericblack4boss]

So I get dildo'd for calling out Hun DMC for his inability, desire, courage or gumption to take the bull by the horns, 

FFS, little wonder the team , and supporters celebrated 3rd place like they had won the league , if that's your attitude.

You bunch of cretins come in here like your fucking Airchie, spouting off your football philosophys and moaning about the two Glasgow cunts being favoured and yet you all thought that one season when they were there to be pushed hard you all just think it was right to cower away, meekly FFS I bet you all still sit down to piss, and get your mum's to wank you off.

[Dad]

Hoo mama 

[thurso]

7 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said:

So I get dildo'd for calling out Hun DMC for his inability, desire, courage or gumption to take the bull by the horns, 

FFS, little wonder the team , and supporters celebrated 3rd place like they had won the league , if that's your attitude.

You bunch of cretins come in here like your fucking Airchie, spouting off your football philosophys and moaning about the two Glasgow cunts being favoured and yet you all thought that one season when they were there to be pushed hard you all just think it was right to cower away, meekly FFS I bet you all still sit down to piss, and get your mum's to wank you off.

Did we not win matches against the arse cheeks under mccinnes.
In the last 30 years probably won more in his 8 years then in the 22 years combined without him 

[ericblack4boss]

We don't deserve to win anything if we are scared to go at them when there to be taken on,

So none of you cunts can moan about them the fact they win everything, if you think it's wrong that we didn't take them on when there was only one of them in the top division and they were as weak as they've been since the turn of the century

[Durrant Dived]

10 minutes ago, ericblack4boss said:

We don't deserve to win anything if we are scared to go at them when there to be taken on,

 

They are not there to be taken when you need to play them 4 times. You'll never get a Leicester type title win for that reason. Playing them 4 times each is fucking brutal and the liklihood you come out with more points after 4 games against them is pretty low.

[thurso]

16 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said:

They are not there to be taken when you need to play them 4 times. You'll never get a Leicester type title win for that reason. Playing them 4 times each is fucking brutal and the liklihood you come out with more points after 4 games against them is pretty low.

I don’t think Alex Ferguson had that attitude 

[Durrant Dived]

6 minutes ago, thurso said:

I don’t think Alex Ferguson had that attitude 

He also didn't have a financial gap this big.