fine-n-dandy Posted December 10, 2023 Share Posted December 10, 2023 Wait a few weeks for Claudio Ranieri to get sacked 😉 see out his retirement with us with legendary status of finally ending the arse cheek dominance Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: We should be aiming for far better than him. Fuck me - our last 3 managers have been Glass, Goodwin & Robson. Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I’d take Neil. Reckon on our budget he’d at least have us around where we were 5-10 years ago. Beating the shite and not 7 million points behind 1st by November 1 Link to comment
Granite95 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: I’d take Neil. Reckon on our budget he’d at least have us around where we were 5-10 years ago. Beating the shite and not 7 million points behind 1st by November Wouldn't happen anyway as he thinks he's too good for Scotalnd And he's also proven constantly to be utter shite 1 1 Link to comment
Johnnyred1 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I wonder how much a manager can really get the best out of a team. I know you get that initial bounce at the beginning. Is it motivational, tactical awareness or down to a healthy budget thrown at them. To me the biggest attribute is getting the right players with the right attitude. That is down to recruitment, so if a manager falls on his sword, surely head of recruitment should fall too. Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 15 minutes ago, Johnnyred1 said: I wonder how much a manager can really get the best out of a team. I know you get that initial bounce at the beginning. Is it motivational, tactical awareness or down to a healthy budget thrown at them. To me the biggest attribute is getting the right players with the right attitude. That is down to recruitment, so if a manager falls on his sword, surely head of recruitment should fall too. Good recruitment - so in our case a good HoR. Good man management - no idea if Robson is any good at that, none of us do. Good tactician & pro-active - Robson definitely fails on that one. Link to comment
Andy_123 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Granite95 said: Wouldn't happen anyway as he thinks he's too good for Scotalnd And he's also proven constantly to be utter shite He did well down there initially, but seems to have been getting continually worse with each new job he's got. I'd have happily taken him a few years ago, but not sure about now Link to comment
WesthillWanderersFC Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 minute ago, Andy_123 said: He did well down there initially, but seems to have been getting continually worse with each new job he's got. I'd have happily taken him a few years ago, but not sure about now He’s gone down the same path as Paul Lambert, Good start up here with a small club. Goes south & is initially good. Fails at a few clubs consecutively. I wouldn’t want him now. Link to comment
Granite95 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 52 minutes ago, Andy_123 said: He did well down there initially, but seems to have been getting continually worse with each new job he's got. I'd have happily taken him a few years ago, but not sure about now Aye did well at Accies and started off ok down south. Think he’ll end up being one of the managers who gets linked to jobs up here but bounces between various League 1 clubs in England. Personally want to see us going to something like the Scandinavian market or somewhere like that. Too often clubs in Scotland just go with a whose solely got experience in Scotland Link to comment
Rabiusmaximus Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, Johnnyred1 said: I wonder how much a manager can really get the best out of a team. I know you get that initial bounce at the beginning. Is it motivational, tactical awareness or down to a healthy budget thrown at them. To me the biggest attribute is getting the right players with the right attitude. That is down to recruitment, so if a manager falls on his sword, surely head of recruitment should fall too. Alex Ferguson Link to comment
Byrne Baby Byrne Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 38 minutes ago, Granite95 said: Aye did well at Accies and started off ok down south. Think he’ll end up being one of the managers who gets linked to jobs up here but bounces between various League 1 clubs in England. Personally want to see us going to something like the Scandinavian market or somewhere like that. Too often clubs in Scotland just go with a whose solely got experience in Scotland I think foreign bosses can struggle to adapt to Scottish football and also under rate it. Even some English ones come in and completely under rate it with the shite players they assume could come in and boss it. but with us looking at the European market just now I reckon we could have some success Link to comment
Granite95 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: I think foreign bosses can struggle to adapt to Scottish football and also under rate it. Even some English ones come in and completely under rate it with the shite players they assume could come in and boss it. but with us looking at the European market just now I reckon we could have some success Do get that however think there's more chance of longer-term success by trying something different than go for the Alex Neil etc type. Even look at the recruitment, guys like Duk (not this season granted), Miovski and Ramadani have been fantstic finds instead of going for the likes of Alan Power, Eamon Brophy etc Get them surrounded by a coach that has good experience in the scottish game to help them adapt to it Link to comment
GDON21 Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 2 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: I think foreign bosses can struggle to adapt to Scottish football and also under rate it. Even some English ones come in and completely under rate it with the shite players they assume could come in and boss it. but with us looking at the European market just now I reckon we could have some success You are right, not many non british managers have come here and done well. particularly at clubs out with the two glasgow clubs. However, it hasn't happened a lot either in recent history except the Romanov era. I don't think its fair to say foreign bosses struggle as you can see most clubs haven't really tried it properly and when they have it has been more of a punt than anything else. Stendel the obvious most recent one, who may have worked out given more time. It's definitely easier to appoint a foreign coach in this modern era with the technology and data to identify coaches. A list of other clubs last foreign managers: Hibs - Mixu Paatelainen(2008) Hearts - Daniel Stendel -(2019) Dundee - Ivano Bonnetti - (2000) Livingston - Roberto Landi (2008) Kilmarnock - Angelo Alessio (2019) Motherwell - Harry Kampman (1998) St Johnstone, St Mirren & Ross County have never had a foreign manager. Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 Alex Neil,would he come back up here? Link to comment
Torry Tosser Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 6 hours ago, Granite95 said: Wouldn't happen anyway as he thinks he's too good for Scotalnd And he's also proven constantly to be utter shite Utter Shite? Did good at Norwich,Preston and Sunderland. Something wrong at Stoke,in house troubles as Michael O'Neil stated when sacked,not the only one either. 1 Link to comment
Russell Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 3 hours ago, Byrne Baby Byrne said: I think foreign bosses can struggle to adapt to Scottish football and also under rate it. Even some English ones come in and completely under rate it with the shite players they assume could come in and boss it. But then foreign managers have to deal with diddy Scottish carthorses like a Kirk Broadfoot who criticise their ways after they've been involved with the likes of Juventus. 1 Link to comment
Wester Hailes Skins Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 I hope you get Alex Neil. He is very close with Joe Savage and Frankie McAvoy at our place and I don't want that cemented. We need a new Board and a completely new management team. Not someone who commits to keeping what we have. Besides Alex Neil is a major investment and for that outlay in a manager, I'd want better. And not someone who reluctantly returns to Scotland cos no-one wants him in England. Again, good luck. Link to comment
JamieMT Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 8 minutes ago, Torry Tosser said: Utter Shite? Did good at Norwich,Preston and Sunderland. Something wrong at Stoke,in house troubles as Michael O'Neil stated when sacked,not the only one either. Agree with this. Alex Neil's a very good manager, certainly a cut above anyone we've had of late. But as others have said, he definitely sees his future in English football. Given the undue haste with which he departed Sunderland for Stoke (a managerial graveyard), if he were to become Dons boss, i fear he'd do the same to us the first time a Championship club batted their eyelashes at him. For that reason alone, it'd be a no for me. 1 Link to comment
Russell Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 24 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: I hope you get Alex Neil. He is very close with Joe Savage and Frankie McAvoy at our place and I don't want that cemented. We need a new Board and a completely new management team. Not someone who commits to keeping what we have. Besides Alex Neil is a major investment and for that outlay in a manager, I'd want better. And not someone who reluctantly returns to Scotland cos no-one wants him in England. Again, good luck. Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 32 minutes ago, Wester Hailes Skins said: I hope you get Alex Neil. He is very close with Joe Savage and Frankie McAvoy at our place and I don't want that cemented. We need a new Board and a completely new management team. Not someone who commits to keeping what we have. Besides Alex Neil is a major investment and for that outlay in a manager, I'd want better. And not someone who reluctantly returns to Scotland cos no-one wants him in England. Again, good luck. I hope you get let on a Hearts forum so you can actually speak to people who care 2 Link to comment
The Gee Man Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 1 hour ago, GDON21 said: You are right, not many non british managers have come here and done well. particularly at clubs out with the two glasgow clubs. However, it hasn't happened a lot either in recent history except the Romanov era. I don't think its fair to say foreign bosses struggle as you can see most clubs haven't really tried it properly and when they have it has been more of a punt than anything else. Stendel the obvious most recent one, who may have worked out given more time. It's definitely easier to appoint a foreign coach in this modern era with the technology and data to identify coaches. A list of other clubs last foreign managers: Hibs - Mixu Paatelainen(2008) Hearts - Daniel Stendel -(2019) Dundee - Ivano Bonnetti - (2000) Livingston - Roberto Landi (2008) Kilmarnock - Angelo Alessio (2019) Motherwell - Harry Kampman (1998) St Johnstone, St Mirren & Ross County have never had a foreign manager. Lomas St Johnstone born in Germany 1 Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 11, 2023 Share Posted December 11, 2023 13 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: Fuck me - our last 3 managers have been Glass, Goodwin & Robson. Yeah & for the kind of wages Neil would think he deserves, we could get better than him in Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Yeah & for the kind of wages Neil would think he deserves, we could get better than him in There arent many managers with Premier league experience going to come to Scotland to manage never mind us. I'll put a wager on with you the next aberdeen manager will have a worse cv than Neil. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 20 minutes ago, Durrant Dived said: There arent many managers with Premier league experience going to come to Scotland to manage never mind us. I'll put a wager on with you the next aberdeen manager will have a worse cv than Neil. Why would anyone be foolish enough to make a bet based on any kind of faith in our board 🤣🤦♂️ FFS come on. Just because I say that for money neil would expect in wages we could do a fk load better, that in no way implies that I believe the FMB are capable of such. Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 8 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Why would anyone be foolish enough to make a bet based on any kind of faith in our board 🤣🤦♂️ FFS come on. Just because I say that for money neil would expect in wages we could do a fk load better, that in no way implies that I believe the FMB are capable of such. So realistically the matter of the fact is we can't do a lot better than Alex Neil. Thank you. Link to comment
fine-n-dandy Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 9 hours ago, Durrant Dived said: So realistically the matter of the fact is we can't do a lot better than Alex Neil. Thank you. Not with the current chairman/FMB no. Even with enough money we’d fk it up yet again. Great for you that you somehow feel as if proven correct here 🤣 Link to comment
Durrant Dived Posted December 12, 2023 Share Posted December 12, 2023 2 hours ago, fine-n-dandy said: Not with the current chairman/FMB no. Even with enough money we’d fk it up yet again. Great for you that you somehow feel as if proven correct here 🤣 You said we can do better. We probably fucking can't was my point. Link to comment
Ke1t Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 Challinor's Stockport scored EIGHT without reply yesterday. He'd cost us, but holy fuck he'd be night and day from the startled, clueless cunt we have right now. Link to comment
CraigHill Posted December 17, 2023 Share Posted December 17, 2023 3 minutes ago, 4n4LprObE666 said: Kelt min, it was the mighty Sutton they were playing .. plus they were knocked out of a cup by a non league side the other week. He's not good enough for Aberdeen. Something in common with Robson then. Link to comment
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